Question to truthers

AndrewBurley said:
Exactly the same for me. Only the gullible or those in denial could see wtc7 fall and think its a fire induced collapse.
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So you're saying your eyes can't decieve you, but the fire fighters who used their expertise to access the damage to building 7 and predicted it's collapse are decieving you? That's quite a stretch. Ever stop and think that maybe your eyes aren't the end all be all?
 
Eric D said:
So you're saying your eyes can't decieve you, but the fire fighters who used their expertise to access the damage to building 7 and predicted it's collapse are decieving you? That's quite a stretch. Ever stop and think that maybe your eyes aren't the end all be all?
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Stop hiding behind the firefighters.
 
AndrewBurley said:
Exactly the same for me. Only the gullible or those in denial could see wtc7 fall and think its a fire induced collapse.
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Jumping Jesus....another one.

I'm curious, AB...what is your field of expertise that leads you to the conclusion that WTC7 was brought down by a controlled demolition? Did you read the NCSTAR1A yet?

I suggest you use the forum search function before mentioning anything with the word(s) "free-fall", "thermite", and/or "pull it".



Also, as a side bar, can anyone explain to me why these truther-folk join the JREF and then don't post until months later?
 
Eric D said:
So you're saying your eyes can't decieve you, but the fire fighters who used their expertise to access the damage to building 7 and predicted it's collapse are decieving you? That's quite a stretch. Ever stop and think that maybe your eyes aren't the end all be all?
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The firefighters were told that WTC7 was going to come down.

Many firefighters disagree that WTC7 should have collapsed and have joined Firefighters for 9/11 Truth to voice their contrary opinion.
http://firefightersfor911truth.org/

Do you think they are being deceptive?

MM
 
Miragememories said:
The firefighters were told that WTC7 was going to come down.
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By who? And what evidence is there to support this?


Many firefighters disagree that WTC7 should have collapsed and have joined Firefighters for 9/11 Truth to voice their contrary opinion.
http://firefightersfor911truth.org/

Do you think they are being deceptive?

MM
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I think they're the minority, assuming the claim isn't dubious to begin with.
 
What's interesting is that "Firefighters for 9/11 Truth" website hasn't been updated in 3 years..could it be that all the accusations have not been supported by facts or evidence?
 
little grey rabbit said:
I know this is difficult to explain to an American, but its not enough to know how to spell a word - you also need to know its meaning and the correct contexts in which to deploy it.
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Says the person who can't distinguish between "NTSB" and "FBI"...
 
I don't find it suprising at all that not ONE SINGLE FIREFIGHTER who responded to those day's events, are not a member of the scam group FF911T.

Not one bit.
 
Ron_Tomkins said:
(When attempting to answer this very straightforward question, try keeping it as concise and simple as possible)

What is so difficult about believing that a group of religious fanatics, who have a history of committing atrocious terrorist acts, committed an atrocious terrorist act?
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Well I can answer this several ways. First of all I believe all of the "terrorist acts" "they hate us" jargon, was and certainly now is greatly over hyped. If I believe 9/11 was a false flag, it is certainly not to much of stretch to believe other events were false flags as well. But of course that's not to say that these religious fanatics did not commit any terrorist act. I would never say such a thing. But I believe it is over-done, and some events in the past could be false flag events.

Next while some of these fanatics may have wanted to do this, I don't believe they had the means. Now I know what you are thinking, 19 men some box cutters, that's not really a lot of resources. But think about it, we're talking about a loose group of people that to be planning this for years. They had to go to flight training, figure out A/C security, stay close knit enough that no one would give the plans away. Seems hard for a group that is very loosely connected.

Finally and what I believe is most important, almost all horrible acts in history, committed on a big scale, were about greed and power. Now I know you can say, there's been a lot of wars fought over Religion, and there still are. But I believe that religion is only being used to brainwash individuals to fighting these wars, for the leaders of these people to gain wealth and power. If it wasn't Religion they would be brainwashed by something else. If the official story were true, what did it get them? How would the people who organized be any better off? For me it makes sense that humans have not changed and that this event was done by those who wanted more wealth and power. Which is what we see every day, a police state is closing in our rights are being stripped. 9/11 was used a pre-text to all of this.
 
tmd2_1 said:
Well I can answer this several ways. First of all I believe all of the "terrorist acts" "they hate us" jargon, was and certainly now is greatly over hyped. If I believe 9/11 was a false flag, it is certainly not to much of stretch to believe other events were false flags as well. But of course that's not to say that these religious fanatics did not commit any terrorist act. I would never say such a thing. But I believe it is over-done, and some events in the past could be false flag events.

Next while some of these fanatics may have wanted to do this, I don't believe they had the means. Now I know what you are thinking, 19 men some box cutters, that's not really a lot of resources. But think about it, we're talking about a loose group of people that to be planning this for years. They had to go to flight training, figure out A/C security, stay close knit enough that no one would give the plans away. Seems hard for a group that is very loosely connected.

Finally and what I believe is most important, almost all horrible acts in history, committed on a big scale, were about greed and power. Now I know you can say, there's been a lot of wars fought over Religion, and there still are. But I believe that religion is only being used to brainwash individuals to fighting these wars, for the leaders of these people to gain wealth and power. If it wasn't Religion they would be brainwashed by something else. If the official story were true, what did it get them? How would the people who organized be any better off? For me it makes sense that humans have not changed and that this event was done by those who wanted more wealth and power. Which is what we see every day, a police state is closing in our rights are being stripped. 9/11 was used a pre-text to all of this.
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tmd, I'll be honest and say that, given the body of work you've posted here, I really don't respect your opinions, but this post appears to be an honest attempt to shed some light on your thinking.
 
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