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Best Email Program For Windows 7?

GMail is fantastic right up until the point where Google suspends your account, won't tell you why, and all your business correspondence is suddenly beyond your grasp.

Google suspends your account not just GMail. If you breech their T&C on any service and they suspend your account, it's "bye bye" GMail.

The latest PCPro Magazine has the sad tale of a man whose Google account was hacked, the T&C breeched, and years worth of business emails were suddenly unavailable. Over a period of several months he had no luck resolving the issue with Google. PCPro (who has considerably more clout that you or I) couldn't get Google to listen either.

The Cloud is all well and good, but it's insane to place your business files beyond your own direct control.

I use Thunderbird because I couldn't live with Windows Live. I hated Thunderbird at first, but eventually grew to appreciate the way it works.

Unfortunately, it's attempts to automatically configure your email account usually mean you have to work hard to get the thing going.

RANT! Thunderbird's automated email configuration is a crime against humanity. The people who conceived of said torture should be hunted down and dragged before the Hague.

But aside from that, it's great :D
 
megaresp said:
Google suspends your account not just GMail. If you breech their T&C on any service and they suspend your account, it's "bye bye" GMail.
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Yeah, well, just don't breach their T&Cs. It can't be that hard - I've had my Gmail for a good number of years now and I haven't been suspended.
 
arthwollipot said:
Yeah, well, just don't breach their T&Cs. It can't be that hard - I've had my Gmail for a good number of years now and I haven't been suspended.
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I've had a Google account for years too. And I haven't been banned either.

I know you're not a fool Arthwollipot, so I'm pretty sure you understand that this doesn't preclude something going wrong. As per the example in PCPro, all it takes is to have one of my Google services hacked and years of business correspondence is locked. I am now reliant on Google's mercy, and as per the article in the latest PCPro, it turns out Google isn't all that merciful.

Trusting everything to a cloud provider is as foolish as not backing up. It's tempting fate.
 
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I think there may have been a bit more to it than that, megarep, as other people have had their accounts hacked and were able to recover them.
 
megaresp said:
I've had a Google account for years too. And I haven't been banned either.

I know you're not a fool Arthwollipot, so I'm pretty sure you understand that this doesn't preclude something going wrong. As per the example in PCPro, all it takes is to have one of my Google services hacked and years of business correspondence is locked. I am now reliant on Google's mercy, and as per the article in the latest PCPro, it turns out Google isn't all that merciful.

Trusting everything to a cloud provider is as foolish as not backing up. It's tempting fate.
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Can you link that pcpro article?

I had my gmail account 'hacked' (most likely bruteforced or used from a cached login) a few months ago, as I woke up to a text from google saying my GMail was suspended for suspicious behaviour.

Go to gmail, attempt to log in and get a dialog for unlocking account, which involves them sending a one-time-password to my cellphone. Got password, logged in, changed to new password, and ta-daa!
 
And furthermore, most of those whose accounts were 'hacked' were probably compromised because their password was "password" or the like.

In all, though, if you're planning to use it for business, and you're planning to do anything other than day-to-day sending and receiving emails, Google Apps for Business is probably the way forward.
 
arthwollipot said:
It's a LOT simpler to use browser-based email than it is to set up and configure a client.
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I am thinking in terms of the how the computer is used and how the messages need to be stored & saved. This needs to be used by multiple people and I'd rather not have the message arrival dependent on a Java system or a screen refresh on a tab in the browser that needs to be open for other purposes (webstore reference, webstore page maintenance, etc.)

That, in addition to other factors means that web-based email is off the table.
 
kookbreaker said:
I am thinking in terms of the how the computer is used and how the messages need to be stored & saved. This needs to be used by multiple people and I'd rather not have the message arrival dependent on a Java system or a screen refresh on a tab in the browser that needs to be open for other purposes (webstore reference, webstore page maintenance, etc.)

That, in addition to other factors means that web-based email is off the table.
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Don't you understand that it is not an option, you MUST submit to the cybermen the Cloud, resistance is useless!!!!! :)

I'll again throw a vote for Outlook, lots of powerful stuff under the bonnet, rock solid stability and can handle huge amounts of data.
 
I use Thunderbird, and it does the job, but that is off the back of a mailserver I have running on an old laptop running Ubuntu which downloads my email so that I have local storage.
 
I can't imagine why anyone would willingly use Outlook Express.
 
This Live Mail has F5 for send and receive, which appears to mean, as far as I can tell, that F5 on the internet is no longer 'refresh page'. It's not a Supernova hot key - this I checked by doing Caps Lock +/ and then pressing F5. If the key had any Supernova function, it would say so.
Anybody know the answer to this, please?
 
SusanB-M1 said:
This Live Mail has F5 for send and receive, which appears to mean, as far as I can tell, that F5 on the internet is no longer 'refresh page'. It's not a Supernova hot key - this I checked by doing Caps Lock +/ and then pressing F5. If the key had any Supernova function, it would say so.
Anybody know the answer to this, please?
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I barely understand your question (don't know anything about "Supernova") but every browser I use still has F5 assigned to refresh page. To me, making F5 the send/receive button in an e-mail program is logically consistent with this, in that the purpose is to "refresh" one's in- and outboxes.
 
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