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UFOs: The Research, the Evidence

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ufology said:
For all the claims that you all here are so well informed about ufology, how is it that you miss the basics? Here is your reference:

http://ufopages.com/Reference/BK/TRUFO/BD_001-002.htm

The Report On Unidentified Flying Objects - E.J. Ruppelt.

"I know the full story about flying saucers and I know that it has never before been told because I organized and was chief of the Air Force's Project Blue Book, the special project set up to investigate and analyze unidentified flying object, or UFO, reports. ( UFO is the official term that I created to replace the words " flying saucers." ).

You can read a more in depth account of the Etymology here:

http://ufopages.com/Reference/BD/UFO-01a.htm
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Now you're just going to spam us are you?

That'll end well.
 
ufology said:
For all the claims that you all here are so well informed about ufology, how is it that you miss the basics? Here is your reference:

http://ufopages.com/Reference/BK/TRUFO/BD_001-002.htm

The Report On Unidentified Flying Objects - E.J. Ruppelt.

"I know the full story about flying saucers and I know that it has never before been told because I organized and was chief of the Air Force's Project Blue Book, the special project set up to investigate and analyze unidentified flying object, or UFO, reports. ( UFO is the official term that I created to replace the words " flying saucers." ).

You can read a more in depth account of the Etymology here:

http://ufopages.com/Reference/BD/UFO-01a.htm

Lastly, I kindly ask again that you stop with the personal slights. I am not a pseudoscientist. Nor am I a scientist. Thank you.
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Interesting. I followed that and then went to Wikipedia and found this:

Wikipedia said:
The Air Force initially defined UFOs as those objects that remain unidentified after scrutiny by expert investigators,[21] though today the term UFO is often used for any unexplained sighting regardless of whether it has been investigated.
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Well, that settles the question of what UFOs are now.
 
ufology said:
I've proposed a much simpler definition based on what the official definition clearly implies and what the word UFO was meant as a replacement for in the first place.
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So sorry, but you don't get to re-define words...and "replacement"??? So when you say "UFO", you actually mean flying saucers??


You are so clueless...
 
ufology said:
Lastly, I kindly ask again that you stop with the personal slights. I am not a pseudoscientist. Nor am I a scientist. Thank you.
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I'm sure it was an oversight on your part to continue to refer to "the above poster..." when you mean to be replying to them directly and it won't happen anymore, will it?
 
ufology said:
Lastly, I kindly ask again that you stop with the personal slights. I am not a pseudoscientist. Nor am I a scientist. Thank you.
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Since it's been established that ufology is a pseudoscience and since you are by name and nature a ufologist then pseudoscientist is indeed the cap you have chosen to wear.

Not much point whingeing about the obvious consequence of your own decision.
 
RoboTimbo said:
Interesting. I followed that and then went to Wikipedia and found this:


Well, that settles the question of what UFOs are now.
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Wikipedia isn't bad but it's been known to have its problems. I was the one to introduce the actual Oxford etymology for the word "ufology" and it was rejected because I have a UFO website ( as if that makes the Oxford dictionary etymology somehow biased ) and then someone else changed it a bit and took credit for it ( So what. At least it's in there now.) I suppose Wikipedia shouldn't take geology submissions from geologists because they're part of the field and must therefore be biased too? They make no sense sometimes and only reveal their own biases in the hypocrisy of they way they screen their submissions.

When it comes to tracing the word UFO, I've dug into the microfilm archives to find the first instances in both the full phrasing and the initialism, then traced its evolution into the Project Blue Book investigations which culminated in AFR 200-2 Feb 05, 1958. These things provide historical evidence for the menaing of the word UFO in the context of ufology studies.
 
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ufology said:
Wikipedia isn't bad but it's been known to have its problems. I was the one to introduce the actual Oxford etymology for the word "ufology" and it was rejected because I have a UFO website ( as if that makes the Oxford dictionary etymology somehow biased ) and then someone else changed it a bit and took credit for it ( So what. At least it's in there now.)

When it comes to tracing the word UFO, I've dug into the microfilm archives to find the first instances in both the full phrasing and the initialism, then traced its evolution into the Proect Blue Book investigations which culminated in AFR 200-2 Feb 05, 1958. These things provide historical evidence for the menaing of the word UFO in the context of ufology studies.
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No, it provides historical evidence for the coining of the word but the meaning now is "Unidentified Flying Object". Did you read the part I quoted from Wikipedia? If you mean Flying Saucer, why don't you just say Flying Saucer? Why do you want to bait and switch the terms?
 
ufology said:
<sour grapes>

When it comes to tracing the word UFO, I've dug into the microfilm archives to find the first instances in both the full phrasing and the initialism, then traced its evolution into the Project Blue Book investigations which culminated in AFR 200-2 Feb 05, 1958. These things provide historical evidence for the menaing of the word UFO in the context of ufology studies.
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Which bit of "This isn't the USAF Department of Flying Saucers in 1958, it's an internet forum in 2011" is giving you the most trouble?
 
ufology said:
Wikipedia isn't bad but it's been known to have its problems. I was the one to introduce the actual Oxford etymology for the word "ufology" and it was rejected because I have a UFO website ( as if that makes the Oxford dictionary etymology somehow biased ) and then someone else changed it a bit and took credit for it ( So what. At least it's in there now.) I suppose Wikipedia shouldn't take geology submissions from geologists because they're part of the field and must therefore be biased too? They make no sense sometimes and only reveal their own biases in the hypocrisy of they way they screen their submissions.

When it comes to tracing the word UFO, I've dug into the microfilm archives to find the first instances in both the full phrasing and the initialism, then traced its evolution into the Project Blue Book investigations which culminated in AFR 200-2 Feb 05, 1958. These things provide historical evidence for the menaing of the word UFO in the context of ufology studies.
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RoboTimbo said:
Interesting. I followed that and then went to Wikipedia and found this:


Well, that settles the question of what UFOs are now.
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It ought to have been cleared up 9 pages ago:

John Albert said:
"UFO" is an acronym; more specifically, an initialism. The definitions of acronyms are already evident by the constituent words initialized within them.

"U.F.O." is an initialism that means, "Unidentified Flying Object," your citation of some obscure USAF documentation notwithstanding.

Here are some common dictionary definitions of "UFO" that can be found on the Web:

UFO (yf-)
n. pl. UFOs or UFO's
An unidentified flying object.
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/UFO


UFO   [yoo-ef-oh or, sometimes, yoo-foh]
noun, plural UFO's, UFOs.
any unexplained moving object observed in the sky, especially one assumed by some observers to be of extraterrestrial origin.

Also called unidentified flying object.

Compare flying saucer.

Origin:
1950–55; u ( nidentified ) f ( lying ) o ( bject )
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ufo


UFO
(yū'ĕf-ō')
n., pl., UFOs, or UFO's.
An unidentified flying object.
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http://www.answers.com/topic/unidentified-flying-object


UFO
noun pl. or
any of a number of unidentified objects or phenomena frequently reported, esp. since 1947, to have been observed or tracked in the sky and variously explained as being atmospheric phenomena, hallucinations, misperceptions of actual objects, alien spacecraft, etc.
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http://www.yourdictionary.com/ufo


UFO noun \ˌyü-(ˌ)ef-ˈō\
plural UFO's or UFOs

Definition of UFO

: an unidentified flying object; especially : flying saucer

Origin of UFO

unidentified flying object

First Known Use: 1953
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ufo


What does UFO stand for?

****** UFO Unidentified Flying Object
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http://www.acronymfinder.com/UFO.html


UFO (UFOs plural)

A UFO is an object seen in the sky or landing on earth which cannot be identified and which is often believed to be from another planet. UFO is an abbreviation for `unidentified flying object'.
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http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-cobuild/UFO


See? All these definitions seem to agree that a UFO is an "unidentified flying object" often mistaken for an extraterrestrial spacecraft.
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Why don't you just come out as a flying saucerologist?

It would be a much more honest description of your chosen pseudoscience and your assorted redefinitions.
 
ufology said:
The poster above perhaps needs to learn the difference between what people think something is and what people think something probably is, and to differentiate between the words alien and extraterrestrial. Here is how we ufologists look at the words "alien" and "extraterrestrial".

Alien: http://ufopages.com/Reference/BD/Alien-01a.htm

Extraterrestrial: http://ufopages.com/Reference/BD/ET-01a.htm
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What was the point of these links?

The quoted definitions WERE from these pages on your website.
The point of my post, fer FSM's sake.
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Oh, and your site does not speak for "we ufologists" - it is one man's opinion only.
 
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