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PK wheel video

dafydd said:
Many years ago I used to believe that I could dowse how many matches there were in a matchbox by using a pendulum,until I started keeping accurate records. I was fooling myself. If I did have this power,what use would it have been? How many times in life do you have to know how many matches there are in a matchbox? What use would it be to be able to move a small paper wheel with your mind? It's a waste of time.
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Really? So my post #53 isn't worth anything. Discovering a new fundamental force would be a waste of time? Having a way for stroke victims to communicate. Having a way for quadriplegics to move a computer cursor or to move a wheelchair. Those would be wastes of time?


Again, there is zero evidence of PK; but even if it were limited to moving the very lightest of objects close to a person's body, then it would still be useful.
 
dafydd said:
What use would it be to be able to move a small paper wheel with your mind?
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Useless I'd say. But suppose you could move an object by will alone. In essence commanding the world to move as you want . Think of it's implication(s) in those terms. Caveat. I'm not suggesting anyone can move objects by sheer force of will.
 
Ladewig said:
Really? So my post #53 isn't worth anything. Discovering a new fundamental force would be a waste of time? Having a way for stroke victims to communicate. Having a way for quadriplegics to move a computer cursor or to move a wheelchair. Those would be wastes of time?


Again, there is zero evidence of PK; but even if it were limited to moving the very lightest of objects close to a person's body, then it would still be useful.
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It's a waste of time trying to discover this force.
 
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos said:
Yes. I don't think this person is blatantly cheating.

~~ Paul
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From this person's blogs, I get a sense of argumentum ad misericordiam, appeal to pity.

Mostly in this one:
http://sandstonesquarry.blogspot.com/2011/08/rosie-youre-alright.html
About a tenured professor which supposedly did something terrible to her.
The story about Rosie the miracle cat.

And here:
http://sandstonesquarry.blogspot.com/2011/08/so-lets-have-closer-look-at-this-ok.html
About the person being 'stressed out'.

Under the heading "WHO AM I" on those pages one can also find stuff which might appeal to pity.

The person may not be blatantly cheating, although the person might be, having cognitive dissonance and/or appeal to pity assist in making blatantly cheating sound implausable.
Even when not intentional.
 
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Steve001 said:
Useless I'd say. But suppose you could move an object by will alone. In essence commanding the world to move as you want . Think of it's implication(s) in those terms. Caveat. I'm not suggesting anyone can move objects by sheer force of will.
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Assuming Newton's Laws apply to PK, using your mind to move massive objects would probably result in your brain being blown out of your nose.

But feel free to try.:D
 
Soapy Sam said:
Assuming Newton's Laws apply to PK, using your mind to move massive objects would probably result in your brain being blown out of your nose.
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There must be some sort of transistor-like universal PK gizmo that amplifies your thought energy. Perhaps this is why experimenters stick mostly with micro-PK these days. That PK wheel is really easy to move.

~~ Paul
 
Ladewig said:
Is the science thing more of a joke or more of a claim?
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It's a bit of a claim. The original person is trying experiments using dryer sheets. A skeptical person is trying his own experiments.

~~ Paul
 
Daylightstar said:
It wouldn't have to be something like that or hidden in the lid.

The lid in the op of this thread is orange to my eyes by the way :)
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There is another video, where she shows the every side of every object used. Which does show that it would be quite a trick if she managed to get air inside that plastic container.

Still it is possible that it is just tipping sliding, since it is not on a plain surface, or that it has something to do with the jar being plastic. Would be better if done on a table.

As for the usefulness? All research into these things that even found it remotely possible to be possible, always seems to end up having the conclusion that it was too unreliable to be useful, especially when compared to a technological way of doing things instead. If paranormal abilities are possible, then it would have to be much more powerful to actually make much difference to the way the world is now, in the ways of science at least.
 
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos said:
It's a bit of a claim. The original person is trying experiments using dryer sheets. A skeptical person is trying his own experiments.

~~ Paul
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that would be me ,
that said , i can not post the link to the vid here because i have not posted enough yet
but you can c&p and remove the spaces inthis : http: //www .youtube.com/watch?v=9M8QI8YGj1s

Bart
 
kblood said:
If paranormal abilities are possible, then it would have to be much more powerful to actually make much difference to the way the world is now, in the ways of science at least.
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You'd also have to wonder how/why they could have evolved, if they provide no selective advantage... oh, and you'd have to wonder what part of the brain was involved, as there don't appear to be any areas of unknown function that are exotically structured (for EMF projection?) or exceptionally well vascularised -as would be necessary to supply the large energy requirements of, e.g. 'telekinesis' (assuming there was some way for it to actually work, which there isn't)... and any selective advantage would have to significantly outweigh the large energy cost of such activity, to the extent that it would be obvious to everyone.
 
dlorde said:
You'd also have to wonder how/why they could have evolved, if they provide no selective advantage... oh, and you'd have to wonder what part of the brain was involved, as there don't appear to be any areas of unknown function that are exotically structured (for EMF projection?) or exceptionally well vascularised -as would be necessary to supply the large energy requirements of, e.g. 'telekinesis' (assuming there was some way for it to actually work, which there isn't)... and any selective advantage would have to significantly outweigh the large energy cost of such activity, to the extent that it would be obvious to everyone.
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I am pretty sure something is happening in the brain while someone is doing telepathy. Assuming it is possible. But if there is such a thing as telepathy, it also seems possible that our consciousness is not created by our brain, but that our brain is just a receiver for the most part. Some experiments does seem to make that likely. If I remember correctly, there were experiments showing that sometimes what our limbs did happened before our brain actually did what was supposed to be the brain sending the command for the limb to do a certain action.

But my point is, whatever is causing telepathy, assuming it is possible, might not be linked to a part of the brain directly.

Paul C. Anagnostopoulos said:
Here is a PK wheel by someone who thinks it's static electricity:




~~ Paul
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That sure does seem to put the outcome in favor of the whole thing being static electricity causing it. The one in the first videos has a cat, its a plastic jar, and its done on something that also seems to be possibly static electricity friendly. I am not so sure that the PK wheels are made of the same materials though, but I am not sure that matters much either.
 
kblood said:
I am pretty sure something is happening in the brain while someone is doing telepathy. Assuming it is possible.
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Why on earth would you assume that when there is not a shred of evidence that it is true?

Everybody who has ever convinced themselves that they have the ability to send and/or receive thoughts and has been scientifically tested has been proved to have been mistaken. There is no reason to think that those who are equally convinced and have not been scientifically tested would fare any better.
 
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