jaydeehess
Penultimate Amazing
Let me be clear again there are two separate and anomalous flashes.
Oh I understand that you are claiming two flashes, one well before and one at impact, though in past references you seemed to havethe sceond flash also occuring before impact and to have changed your mind on that.
Just as in the OP here are two videos you see them the best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc4wsjKbYTQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x8fs2sZmas&feature=related
Yes, I saw that vid the first time you posted it and again I see nothing that looks like a missile launch, I also see no missile.
I do see something that looks like a vapour cloud at the trailing edge of the wing at the fuselage. I've also shown good quality video of these.
What I was saying about that plane crashing into the wall is that is how I would have expected 175 to look had it happened AFTER impact. I'm talking about the flash. I see absolutely no reason for it to not have looked like that, similar to the example I gave about the pencil puncturing through a screen.
I fail to understand what you mean.
The F-4 was unpowered, you realize that right? It was propelled by a rocket sled strapped under the plane. Its tanks were filled with water to simulate the mass of fuel and its had no electrical power on at the time. Given that they wanted no fuel on board in order to have no explosion and given that no electrical was on I would also expect there to be no Oxygen supply or powered up radar.
Now also given the FACT that many here have stated that the flash after impact is likely to be the O2 bottles or the radar being violently destroyed how is it that you can expect this to look something like the F-4? I'm talking about the flash since its patently obvious that the resultant damage to a smaller aircraft into a solid block of concrete will be vastly different than a 767 into a widely spaced lattice work of steel.
They punch small holes in steel with their kinetic energy/momentum. The explosion is to kill occupants and damage softer equipment inside the armour of a an APC.Now the projectile could (I stress the word could) have been angled in such a way that it would damage two columns. Remember these work on kinetic energy alone, no explosion is necessary. It detonates after penetration.
The dart WILL(physics dictates it) lose velocity in its passage through steel. Thus it will no longer be capable of again penetrating another column.
I will assume that you are trying to say that once through a perimeter column that it could be angled such that it would then strike a core column since in order to strike another perimeter column it would ahve to hit the first one at right angles to the travel of the aircraft or doa 180 degree turn once inside the building. The core columns are even bigger than the perimeter columns making the idea of a second penetration all the more unlikely. They are also separated by several dozen feet and its trajectory after penetrating the first column is going to be quite unknown. Its fins will have been torn off or bent and its laser tracking will have been destroyed on impact. No missile has ever been created that, having pentrated its target, is expected to have its guidence remain intact so as to then retarget something else.
A hundred thousand pounds moving at 500 MPH is quite capable of entering a steel framed building on its own. It won't be intact as it moves past the outer wall , neither will the wall, but its going inside.Also with the columns being so far apart maybe puncturing one column is all that's necessary. It would have greatly helped with the penetration of the nose.
But getting back to the flash that comes out of the back. I always thought a vapor cloud looked more like the picture below. Not an orange flame or flash coming from the back of the A/C.
Well in none of your vides have I seen an orange flame. However I notye that in the missile launch vids one also does not see an orange flame, certainly not in the launch of the Starstreak.
Your picture is of a vapour trail. That is the condensing of the vapour coming out of the engines. I you look at a 747 flying high and leaving a vapour trail like this you can easily see that there are actually 4 of them, one coming from each engine. Two on each wing, but the pair on each wing meld together quickly as the planers moves forward leaving only two trails. This is not what I am talking about. I am talking about a cloud forming around a fast moving surface that creates a high pressure shockwave in front of surfaces with a local low pressure area immediatly follwoing it, sufficient to cause the water vapour in the air to condense.
So what are the chances of having two anomalous flashes coming from the same side of the A/C, in just a little over a seconds time, and both of these flashes being unrelated? Because I don't see how what happened out of the back of the plane would have had anything to do with the flash in front of the plane.
You are correct what happened at the trailing edge of the plane had nothing to do with what happened as the plane impacted the building. One is a physical phenomena having to do with humidity, pressure, and speed, and the other having to do with the violence of a high speed collsion between a jet aircraft and a large building. The former is something that has been observed many times.You can look up 'vapour cones' to see this effect on supersonic fighters but its going to come into play at certain parts of large aircraft approaching Mach 1 ESPECIALLY IF THE PLANE IS manouvering.
The later is something that tahnkfully we rarely ever witness let alone catch in a recording. Planes just do not have a habit of ramming large buildings very often and thus to my knowledge there is no library of video clips of this occuring. That you cannot envision an oxygen bottle being ripped apart and how this will look is a matter not of any suspicious occurance but rather evidence of the conmspiracy myopia that you have.
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