Reasonable doubt...All truthers(and whoever esle) please read

[tmd2_1]

I have asked every truther here that question and never received an answer. Tmd,would you like to present your full theory about 911,including details of how the thermite was placed,how much of it was present,how was the building rigged without anyone noticing,was the NYFD in on it,what happened to the passengers on the planes,were there really hijackers present,how many hundreds of people were involved in the conspiracy,,,,etc. Tiny details like that. I don't know why I am doing this,no truth warrior has ever been brave enough to answer me.

Not particularly. We both know where it will lead. No alternative theory is ever good enough. But feel free, to contribute to my thread about evidence of the official story, not surprising it is lacking.

 

[tmd2_1]

STFU?!?!?!?! Are you serious!?!?!?!? INSIDE JOBBITY JOB!!!!!11!!1

Whenever I see things like this, I know there is no point in continuing.

 

[tmd2_1]

Talking about Kearney and the biowarfare team I was just talking with another poster the other week about that...

''Death Dart wrote
...........The worse thing that could happen is that one of the buildings wasn't hit by a plane at all. It is still wired for explosives, which will be certainly found.

Too much risk, not enough gain.

bill smith wrote
It could be that the biowarfare exercise 'Tripod 2' that took position at the Twin Towers the evening before 9/11 was there to cover for that very eventuality.
If the plane had missed the Tower (a very real possibilty) and piled into the ground the biowarfare people could have moved in and found that Anthrax or another biological agent had been released in the building.Full quarantine and evacuation of the immediate area would have protected any secrets that the building might have.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144954&page=271 thread''

Yes I'm sure there would have been a contingency plan, but a plane missing the building I think would have been a big deal. The piloting of the plane would not have been left to human hands.

Yes something like you described is probably what would have been done. But I think it would be big problems. Perhaps even the official story would have changed, that there were explosives found, not thermite or anything like that. I don't know, it's certainly a good thought what would have happened if a plane missed.

 

[Sam.I.Am]

Not particularly. We both know where it will lead. No alternative theory is ever good enough. But feel free, to contribute to my thread about evidence of the official story, not surprising it is lacking.

No viable alternative theory has been given as of yet. Every single truther theory has been shown to ether rely on junk science, doesn't match the known evidence , is based upon proven lies or some mixture of the above.

Here is your chance to show us some cast iron proof of the TM's theories. If it is as good as you claim that it is then there should be no holes for us to have to rip your theory apart. You should in fact welcome any input that opposes your theory so that you can refine it to match known facts. So far truthers have failed to do this. When presented with the holes in their theories the result is almost always something like this:

 

[triforcharity]

Whenever I see things like this, I know there is no point in continuing.

Yeah, pretty much. Especially considering your entire line of bull **** is just that. Bovine fecal matter.

You cannot refute the facts that I have presented, so their is no point in continuing. Now I am just going to laugh at you while pointing.

I've answered every question you've asked of me.

Now, answer one question.

Are you ok with being mislead and lied to?

 

[TJM]

Not particularly. We both know where it will lead.

Your failure again, only in fewer pages.

No alternative theory is ever good enough.

You should should stop right there and ponder those words.

But feel free, to contribute to my thread about evidence of the official story, not surprising it is lacking.

It's there, regardless of whether you've ignored it or not.

 

[triforcharity]

No viable alternative theory has been given as of yet. Every single truther theory has been shown to ether rely on junk science, doesn't match the known evidence , is based upon proven lies or some mixture of the above.

Here is your chance to show us some cast iron proof of the TM's theories. If it is as good as you claim that it is then there should be no holes for us to have to rip your theory apart. You should in fact welcome any input that opposes your theory so that you can refine it to match known facts. So far truthers have failed to do this. When presented with the holes in their theories the result is almost always something like this:

[qimg]http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg11/scaled.php?server=11&filename=babydebunktruth.jpg&res=medium[/qimg]

Love it!!! Absolutely love it!!

(Know anyone who can turn it into a .gif file with the first picture being the crying truther, then the next picture being the laughing debunker? )

 

[ProBonoShill]

Whenever I see things like this, I know there is no point in continuing.

You're right there is no point in continuing, all you've done in defense of your moronic claims is to dodge his questions and handwave away his facts, typical truther modus operandi.

If I were you, I'd run away too.

 

[dafydd]

Not particularly. We both know where it will lead. No alternative theory is ever good enough. But feel free, to contribute to my thread about evidence of the official story, not surprising it is lacking.

There is a plethora of evidence to support the official story,you have nothing but the same old regurgitated truther nonsense. I 'm not surprised that you dodged my question. Frankly I don't think that there is a truther who is intelligent enough to put together a full theory. I'm out. Stop feeding the troll.

 

[dafydd]

Yes I'm sure there would have been a contingency plan, but a plane missing the building I think would have been a big deal. The piloting of the plane would not have been left to human hands.

Yes something like you described is probably what would have been done. But I think it would be big problems. Perhaps even the official story would have changed, that there were explosives found, not thermite or anything like that. I don't know, it's certainly a good thought what would have happened if a plane missed.

Bill is a troll who will agree with any old pony. Just so you know. Goodbye,see you in another ten years.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

What "research" by ae911truth? All they do is parrot the nonsense of David Ray Griffin.

Papers published in peer-reviewed science or engineering journals? 0.

Maybe they just need more time, after all 10 years is not nearly enough time for 1,500 "experts" to publish a single paper, right?

Not only have they not done any, but they lack the qualifications/skills to put one together. I really do think even bringing up the topic of peer reviewed papers is for them, giving too much credibility already.

 

[Sam.I.Am]

Here's the source image (minus the captions) if anyone wants it. All I did was run it through a LOL cat site, add the words then put it in my image shack account. I don't have any gif animation software on this PC. If you want to do it yourself go get Paint.net (it's free) and play around with it.

 

[dafydd]

Not only have they not done any, but they lack the qualifications/skills to put one together. I really do think even bringing up the topic of peer reviewed papers is for them, giving too much credibility already.

You said a mouthful there. I would like to know where tmd studied engineering,cd,physics,fire control and aviation. I suspect that the answer is nowhere.

 

[tmd2_1]

Yeah, pretty much. Especially considering your entire line of bull **** is just that. Bovine fecal matter.

You cannot refute the facts that I have presented, so their is no point in continuing. Now I am just going to laugh at you while pointing.

I've answered every question you've asked of me.

Now, answer one question.

Are you ok with being mislead and lied to?

Well you know you have done a lot, although I'm sure you have no idea you did it. You got me to write more things then I previously would have. Any rational person with an open mind reading this, will now have more information to work with. More sites to visit, more articles to read. You've also showed how irrational and just how much "debunkers" will adhere to the official dogma.

So yes you have done a lot.

 

[dafydd]

Well you know you have done a lot, although I'm sure you have no idea you did it. You got me to write more things then I previously would have. Any rational person with an open mind reading this, will now have more information to work with. More sites to visit, more articles to read. You've also showed how irrational and just much "debunkers" will adhere to the official dogma.

So yes you have done a lot.

This comes from the man who sees non-existent missiles? Rational people are not truthers and never will be. The information is that truthers do not have clue and are not qualified to make judgements about 911. You have done a sterling job of exposing truther idiocy to the world. Well done. Upward and onwards to another ten years of abject failure!

 

[Grizzly Bear]

I just said this in a separate thread where the OP member was complaining about my being neutral but I'll say it again. It's one thing if the information is new or if you're unfamiliar with the information and have yet to have seen both sides of the argument. It's another matter when you've seen the arguments for three or more years repeated ad nauseum after figuring out how dumb the claims are a long time ago. The claims made by the truth movement are old news, and while I'm willing to listen to anything new that they have to say, as long as it remains stupid and/or incompetent, I have every reason to believe that the criticisms levied on them are perfectly legit.

Is there any reason in particular why I shouldn't be calling out on people like Richard Gage who try to model full scale building performance by using a card board box as the example?

 

[triforcharity]

Well you know you have done a lot, although I'm sure you have no idea you did it. You got me to write more things then I previously would have. Any rational person with an open mind reading this, will now have more information to work with. More sites to visit, more articles to read. You've also showed how irrational and just how much "debunkers" will adhere to the official dogma.

So yes you have done a lot.

I've shown that truthers like youself, when presented with clear cut facts, will run away crying like a schoolgirl with a skinned knee.

You've shown that even when presented with clear cut facts, you will continue to adhere to the lies that you have bought into.

You've also shown that you have no idea my views on the NIST report. Yes, I do have doubts about some of the numbers they use. Does it matter? Not one bit.

You've also shown that when a site is shown to be incorrect, you will shift those goalposts with a quickness.

Congratulations. You're a certified 100% truther.

 

[tmd2_1]

I've shown that truthers like youself, when presented with clear cut facts, will run away crying like a schoolgirl with a skinned knee.

You've shown that even when presented with clear cut facts, you will continue to adhere to the lies that you have bought into.

You've also shown that you have no idea my views on the NIST report. Yes, I do have doubts about some of the numbers they use. Does it matter? Not one bit.

You've also shown that when a site is shown to be incorrect, you will shift those goalposts with a quickness.

Congratulations. You're a certified 100% truther.

What have I run from? If you really believe what you have wrote, you are much more delusional than any truther. All this, you do realize that 1.5 million dollars was lost by selling it to China don't you? You want to focus on one quote? That is at worse mis-leading. Something he says the exact opposite to else where in the site, it's sad...really sad. But as I said, you have done a great service and didn't even realize it.

 

[dafydd]

What have I run from? If you really believe what you have wrote, you are much more delusional than any truther. All this, you do realize that 1.5 million dollars was lost by selling it to China don't you? You want to focus on one quote? That is at worse mis-leading. Something he says the exact opposite to else where in the site, it's sad...really sad. But as I said, you have done a great service and didn't even realize it.

You've run from every question that would burst your fantasy bubble. After every question that you were too afraid to answer you either shifted the goalposts or hand waved it away and repeated the same nonsense. You refused to provide a full theory because you don't have one. How many more years of abject failure can we expect from the 'truth' movement? Another ten? Twenty? If you think that this thread has been a success for you then your thinker is malfunctioning. I've shown some of your posts to visiting friends and the member's agreement prevents me from saying what their opinion of you is.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Whenever I see things like this, I know there is no point in continuing.

yet you do

Clearly a sign of an inside jobitty jobby.