Australian Federal Election 2010

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...se-craig-thomson/story-fn59niix-1226121427844

Beautifully unified and in sync are Labor. Here's why ...

LABOR MPs are being instructed to play down the allegations against Craig Thomson and praise him as a "dedicated local member" in the daily script given to all Gillard government members.

Confidential Labor talking points, obtained by The Australian Online, instruct MPs on how to tackle questions on the allegations confronting the besieged MP for Dobell.

Here's the document. Such fun. :)

A leaked document, one wonders why it was leaked - actually we don't have to wonder too hard. What I do wonder is who leaked it. The usual suspects...?
 
Richo:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...icking-time-bomb/story-e6frgd0x-1226122396641

Then of course there is the Craig Thomson effect. This bloke is damaging the Labor brand every day he hangs around the parliament like a bad smell in a lift. Gillard is not responsible for this either but what a dilemma she has. Dump him and lose government or cling on to him to maintain the parliamentary numbers and watch the slide in the polls continue. Thomson is the suicide bomber’s vest, wrapped tightly around the Prime Minister and the Labor Party. It cannot be defused and at some stage it is destined to explode. Police investigations will take a while. Then, if a decision is made to charge him with a criminal offence, Thomson will be lost in the justice system for a couple of years.

Luck is important in politics. When John Howard faced defeat, the Tampa sailed to the rescue. I always believed that Hawke would put his hand down a sewer and pull out a $20 bill. I’m afraid Gillard would pull out something else entirely.

I have never hoped to be wrong as much as I do now, but it is hard to come to any other conclusion than this will all end in tears.
 
This is getting smellier and smellier.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/.../story-e6freon6-1226122406799?from=public_rss

THE Craig Thomson scandal has reached into the heart of Julia Gillard's office, after revelations that her chief-of-staff rang the Industrial Registrar in early 2009 to ask whether he was investigating the Labor MP.

Former Industrial Registrar Doug Williams last night confirmed the phone call from Ben Hubbard, which came before the fraud allegations were made public.

Mr Williams told the Prime Minister's most trusted adviser that he was legally unable to provide any information about his investigation.

The explosive allegations raise questions about when Ms Gillard - who was deputy prime minister and workplace relations minister at the time - first learnt about claims that Mr Thomson had stolen union funds to pay for prostitutes.


I think Gillard has to force Thompson to resign and put him on the cross benches. From there she can control some of what happens from here on, but she can't undo the past. The massive damage that has already been done cannot be undone and there still remains plenty of questions that must be answered.

Worst government ever!
 
Dream away Alfie. Unlike certain union leaders, Thompson will remain silent. The police investigation will take years. This parliament will go full term. The independents will not commit suicide. Your wet dream will not eventuate. Suffer.
 
A.A. Alfie said:
This is getting smellier and smellier.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/.../story-e6freon6-1226122406799?from=public_rss

THE Craig Thomson scandal has reached into the heart of Julia Gillard's office, after revelations that her chief-of-staff rang the Industrial Registrar in early 2009 to ask whether he was investigating the Labor MP.

Former Industrial Registrar Doug Williams last night confirmed the phone call from Ben Hubbard, which came before the fraud allegations were made public.

Mr Williams told the Prime Minister's most trusted adviser that he was legally unable to provide any information about his investigation.

The explosive allegations raise questions about when Ms Gillard - who was deputy prime minister and workplace relations minister at the time - first learnt about claims that Mr Thomson had stolen union funds to pay for prostitutes.


I think Gillard has to force Thompson to resign and put him on the cross benches. From there she can control some of what happens from here on, but she can't undo the past. The massive damage that has already been done cannot be undone and there still remains plenty of questions that must be answered.

Worst government ever!
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Hardly.

They are implementing a Carbon Tax, in accordance with the recommendations of scientists, a new hospital funding scheme, steered us through the GFC without a recession, new national high speed broadband system, a new national sickness insurance scheme, will raise the minimum tax level. The list goes on, you just won't read about it in a positive light, for some reason.

The most basic test was when the election was over, would Gillard or Abbot win over enough independents to take government. Abbot lost out. So much for the supposed political genius of the man.
 
Your support for them only further confirms my assessment. :)

Gillard's postion is totally irredeemable and she must be even closer to the end of her time. Labor will be relegated to opposition for a decade after all this. The public despise them and they are no longer listening. Her defense of Thompson only serves to confirm how out of touch they (she) is with reality and the voting public. They continue to alienate the public through insults and sheer arrogance.

How quickly they lost that connection.

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What's in there? What does it say? Can you give me some idea on what it is about? Then I might have a look at it.

Meantime... The Thompson affair gets worse and worse. Not only is there no end in sight (i.e. this won't go away) there are more revelations to come.

AUP. What would you do with him? How would you handle it of you were pm?
 
It's not up to me, I didn't even vote Labor. Why don't you ask the liberals. Deny everything, say you can't pre judge him, if it comes to a trial, it is very easy to drag out the process and appeals for two years, then it will be time for the next election. In the mean time, we will have a carbon trading tax in place, and Abbot won't be able to remove it. for another three years or more. I think that since they are going to get voted out either way, they should bring in a gay marriage bill while they are at it. It's not going to lose them any more votes.

Abbot will then come in, and ask his minions to make the magic $70billion in promises that he has pledged appear, and they will have to tell him it can't be done without making a lot of people very angry. He will also raise company tax. For some reason, his promise to introduce a levy on companies to pay for his maternity leave scheme is never mentioned. He will continue raging like the bully he is, but he won't have anyone to blame but himself.
 
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LOL, he likes to centre his text like you did too.
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How nice.

Gillard will not be pm come next election - hell I don't think she will see out the year - and good riddance. When that happens the Carbon tax will be gone also and off the agenda until the rest of the world is acting - which is only sensible imo.

It is this government that is the bully, not Abbott: have you seen how their minions are bullying the union officials that have called for the police? Shovels left at their front doors. Have you seen how they bully the public by introducing policy they public don't want and never had the opportubity to vote on? Have you seen how they bully their own followers by rubbishing and ridiculing their opinions? How they bully people by not listening to public opinion?

Many of these people used to be the heart and soul of Labor - now they get in the way of the governments' watermelon agenda.

Bullies indeed! And virtually all their troubles have been brought on by their own ineptitude, poor judgement, appalling management and the most amazing ability to lose touch with their constituents that we have ever seen in this country.

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Even the Australian (although I'm sure that the Herald-Sun is more to your tastes) doesn't think that the government will fall over Thompson's alleged indiscretions. Just wishful thinking on your part. Continue to fulminate. I'm enjoying this as much as Alan Jones making an idiot of himself in Canberra with his pathetic convoy.
 
A.A. Alfie said:
How nice.

Gillard will not be pm come next election - hell I don't think she will see out the year - and good riddance. When that happens the Carbon tax will be gone also and off the agenda until the rest of the world is acting - which is only sensible imo.

It is this government that is the bully, not Abbott: have you seen how their minions are bullying the union officials that have called for the police? Shovels left at their front doors. Have you seen how they bully the public by introducing policy they public don't want and never had the opportubity to vote on? Have you seen how they bully their own followers by rubbishing and ridiculing their opinions? How they bully people by not listening to public opinion?

Many of these people used to be the heart and soul of Labor - now they get in the way of the governments' watermelon agenda.

Bullies indeed! And virtually all their troubles have been brought on by their own ineptitude, poor judgement, appalling management and the most amazing ability to lose touch with their constituents that we have ever seen in this country.

Worst government ever!

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It will take a few months to pass the bill, the numbers are assured in the senate, and the lower house. There will be no removal of Thompson before then. Once the bill is passed, even if there is another election, Abbot won't
have the numbers to repeal it. He will have to go to a double dissolution, and that will piss off everyone if they have to have another election, and by then he will have to have committed himself to a budget that has to make 70 billion appear out of thin air, and people will be able to see he has nothing up his sleeve.
 
lionking said:
Even the Australian (although I'm sure that the Herald-Sun is more to your tastes) doesn't think that the government will fall over Thompson's alleged indiscretions. Just wishful thinking on your part. Continue to fulminate. I'm enjoying this as much as Alan Jones making an idiot of himself in Canberra with his pathetic convoy.
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I didn't say the government would fall over, I said Gillard will go - please try and pay attention.
There are plenty at the ABC and elsewhere who see the writing on the wall - there are even a few at the Age.

Interestingly too, you troll in here every now and then simply to throw dirt at me, occasionally disguised with something almost valid, but usually not. You then have the temerity to call me troll. Funny. Funny and telling.

Tell me LK. How do you estimate Gillard and her government compared with those you have seen in your lifetime? Whose government was worse than this? For mine (and I concede I was in short pants at the time), even Whitlam was better.
 
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Why the obsession with historical comparisons? The Gillard government is far better than one cobbled together by that idiot Abbott. That's all that matters.
 
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