Bigfoot DNA

[William Parcher]

There seems to be quite a bit of variability, at least for the medulla (black section down the middle). Both of these are cow hair.

 

[DennyT]

After looking at the FBI site and others, my sense is that the variability within a species, across body sites and even in same hair shaft are much greater than what would allow identification from your "line up" of images.
i.e. it ain't that simple.

 

[southernyahoo]

After looking at the FBI site and others, my sense is that the variability within a species, across body sites and even in same hair shaft are much greater than what would allow identification from your "line up" of images.
i.e. it ain't that simple.

You would be correct that it's not easy to ID by morphology, it takes more training than I have. We need to see if it is a consistent trait of black bear hair to have the uniserial ladder medulla. The cattle hair would be a closer comp. but I think that would take us into measuring the diameter of the hairs which can't be done without the right kind of microscope. Also you wouldn't likely take my word for it that no ovoide bodies were observed, and I'm not about to photo every millimeter of all the hairs.

 

[William Parcher]

Here is a comparison of bear, chimp, and the unknown.

Attached below is another bear sample. The width of the medulla varies for a given animal. Maybe it can't help us much.

 

[Resume]

Attached below is another bear sample. The width of the medulla varies for a given animal. Maybe it can't help us much.

You know what's needed? A bigfoot hair to compare the suspect hairs with.

It we only had that.

 

[southernyahoo]

You know what's needed? A bigfoot hair to compare the suspect hairs with.

It we only had that.

Well it just might be some scientists opinion that the one on the left "is".

 

[Resume]

Well it just might be some scientists opinion that the one on the left "is".

I'll not hold my breath.

 

[William Parcher]

Well it just might be some scientists opinion that the one on the left "is".

Wait. Which is the unknown?

Here is a comparison of bear, chimp, and the unknown.

This word ordering suggests that it is on the right.

 

[GT/CS]

You can't dictate what length of hair you would find. The length can help rule out alot of animals. Where are the measurements of pattys hair, or is that subjective opinion?

Classic 'footer dodge.

 

[southernyahoo]

Wait. Which is the unknown?



This word ordering suggests that it is on the right.

It is the one on the left, I have to make sure you are paying attention.

 

[LTC8K6]

Exposure and wrapping in the branches/burrs might cause the hairs to curl.

 

[LTC8K6]

Roger gave widely varying lengths for Patty's hair, iirc. From short to 4 inches.

 

[River]

After looking at many websites on hair - this looks most like bovine hair to any other samples I've seen on the internet. Any in the area of matching color? (or previous owners with them?)

 

[LTC8K6]

After looking at many websites on hair - this looks most like bovine hair to any other samples I've seen on the internet. Any in the area of matching color? (or previous owners with them?)

Yes, it shouldn't be a big mystery...but if you can keep it "unknown", you can keep claiming it's from a sasquatch.

 

[LTC8K6]

Wouldn't there have been sasquatch skin cells all over that tree? Did anyone swab any branches?

 

[Deacondark]

I live in the Ark-La-Tex area, and I can tell you that the woods in some places are thick with wild boar. And they get into trees and undergrowth and root around, tearing off branches and leaving hair all the time. I've seen it quite a bit, and never thought "Bigfoot". I always thought "Wild boar" and reached for my pistol. Them things will tear you up pretty bad if you're not careful.

 

[Deacondark]

Here is a link to a study on the rooting effects on tree regeneration as a result of Wild boar: http://www.stewardsofthecoastandredwoods.org/pdf/austincreekpigeradication.pdf

And here is a video of a guy showing a wild boar rub: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrFfd-OD7N4

 

[LTC8K6]

Ahh, but there were hairs at 4 feet...

 

[Deacondark]

Ahh, but there were hairs at 4 feet...

I've seen wild boar that were 3 feet tall. And given peoples propensity to exaggerate, and hairs ability to fly around, 4 feet is not out of the question. If it were Bigfoot, shouldn't it be higher than that? Oh wait, maybe he was going at it in quadrupedal mode!

 

[southernyahoo]

After looking at many websites on hair - this looks most like bovine hair to any other samples I've seen on the internet. Any in the area of matching color? (or previous owners with them?)

Black Angus cow would be your closest match, Photo's online seem to satisfy the cortex color and general appearance of the medulla. There is other characteristics to make a positive ID.