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PK wheel video

citizenzen said:
Why?
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It's cheap, it's fun, it's a novelty you can show your friends ... plus, any pronouncements you make about how the damned thing works or what it can or cannot do would then be supported by some empirical evidence.
 
We're discussing this on Skeptiko with the person who owns the blog and who did the trials. Apparently, some people linking from here are submitting abusive and threatening comments to her blog. What the **** is wrong with some of you? We can be skeptics and not be ********.

Just because this is the internet, and you don't agree with someone, doesn't mean you should feel free to hurl **** at them.

Plus, it gives all skeptics a bad name and confirms the nasty stereotypes that people have about us.

People: please stop being dicks. Make respectful comments. There are real people on the other side, with real feelings.

Grow the **** up!
 
Brown said:
It's cheap, it's fun, it's a novelty you can show your friends ... plus, any pronouncements you make about how the damned thing works or what it can or cannot do would then be supported by some empirical evidence.
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How can you really determine what is evidence or not?

Seems to me that it would be mostly just leaping to poorly drawn conclusions.
 
So my choices are (1) to believe that psychokinesis exists in a form that would cause all physics and biology textbooks to be rewritten and that this force has been discovered and demonstrated by someone who posted proof on a blog - a discovery so unprecedented that this one video, if authentic, would cause, for the first time in history, a person to win a Nobel prize in physics and a Nobel prize in medicine for the same experiment or (2) someone is engaging in some slight of hand to make it appear that a pinwheel is being moved by a person's mind.


Hmmmm, I'm going to need some time to make a decision.
 
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It doesn't seem so uncommon, there are a bunch of people doing the PK wheel under glass on youtube. Not sure they are all frauds. Doing it without the glass has a perfectly physical explanation - stands to reason that doing it with the glass does too.

Not necessarily fraud being involved.
 
There is a simple hillbilly toy that I grew up with. I don't recall its name, but it consisted of a stick, roughly 1/2 inch diameter; 12" long, with a pin at its end that pierces a small stick; perhaps 2" long at most. The small stick, at 90 degrees from the large one, can spin freely on its pin.

The side of the larger stick has ridges carved into it, giving it a rough surface.

The user of the toy drags another stick up and down across those ridges, and it sets the little stick to spinning.
By dragging ones finger slightly while rubbing the sticks, the stick on the pin changes its rotational direction. Quite abruptly.

Vibrations.




(P.S., does anyone know of this toy I describe?)
 
I've never heard of this before but my first impression is heat from one's hand causes the spin. And since glass is a poor conductor of heat, the air inside the jar is slower to heat up.

I have a number of Xmas ornaments that run off the heat from a tree light.
 
Jeff Corey said:
... show that sitting on a glass table.
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A most excellent idea.

Mount the pin on a glass table, psi wheel on top, put the glass jar without now unnecessary cap over it and see what happens.
An unambiguously clear video may limit speculation about things which can not be seen or are not present in the experiment.
 
Daylightstar said:
An unambiguously clear video ...
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I don't think there is such a thing as "unambiguously clear video".

There is however, a million dollar challenge, and world-wide fame for anybody who could prove this talent.

The fact that this prize hasn't been collected says far more than any video could ever hope to.
 
Why are we assuming that this can't be done through physical means? Think we have a ways to go before this is MDC worthy...
 
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