Merged Apollo "hoax" discussion / Lick observatory laser saga

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oops, missed one of those ;)
So did I. I had to go back and recheck to make sure I wasn't seeing things.

I wonder if he posts through a proxy. I once did this and had trouble with more complex forum functions (quoting, embedding images etc) which got garbled by the proxy software.

In 27 years online, I have never seen that, and I am an IT professional.

Not to say it never happened to you, just I have never seen it.

Maybe he uses a poxy proxy?
 
So did I. I had to go back and recheck to make sure I wasn't seeing things.



In 27 years online, I have never seen that, and I am an IT professional.

Not to say it never happened to you, just I have never seen it.

Maybe he uses a poxy proxy?

It depends on the quality of the proxy server. Some of the free ones cut out a lot of formatting to save on bandwidth. I have seen some like that but there are still plenty out there that work correctly for everything.
 
Lick oservatory laser saga key to apollo's solution

It is rather easy for an individual, even for the novice Apollo enthusiast, to demonstrate the fraudulence of these once revered "space adventures". For those familiar with the events of 07/20/1969 and rather handy with a computer, the bogusness of NASA's official Apollo 11 story can be demonstrated to oneself within a day, even less sometimes. For those without much Apollo savvy, those fresh to Apollo studies, and/or those not all that familiar with using a computer as an Apollo history research tool, it may take as long as a week or so to pull it off, but still, really not all that long a time at all.

The truth of the matter is that for experienced researchers and novices alike, the curious may readily demonstrate that there were individuals who actually knew where Tranquility Base was independent of the Eagle's landing there. As the knowledge of these individuals with respect to Tranquility Base's precise location was amazingly, independent of the landing there, one may conclude with absolute certainty these individuals actually had knowledge, precise knowledge , of Tranquility Base's location BEFORE the Eagle landed.

Given this startling circumstance, one is lead to the conclusion that for it to be the case, which indeed it is, Apollo must be phony. For how else would one know where Neil Armstrong landed on the moon, before he even was said to have landed on the moon? Foreknowledge of the Eagle's landing coordinates equates with absolute certainty of Apollo's fraudulence.

The key to discovering this for oneself is to embark on the task of answering 4 questions with respect to events on the evening of 07/20/1969;

1) who contacted Lick Observatory on that evening and provided the scientists there the coordinates of Tranquility Base so that the scientists might target the lunar laser retro-reflector said to have been placed on the lunar surface by the Apollo 11 astronauts?
2) When was that notification made?
3) what were the coordinates of Tranquilty Base given to the Lick Observatopry scientists that evening so that they might target the LRRR?
4) how were those coordinates determined?

As many know, on the evening of 07/20/1969, a small horde had gathered at world renown Lick Observatory in anticipation of the scientists there successfully targeting the LRRR on the very evening of the landing. As it turns out, the LRRR was not successfully targeted until 08/01/1969, but nevertheless, the details regarding the events surrounding the failed attempt provide the thoughtful researcher with insight into "Apollo's Solution".

And so, even "beginning students of Apollo", may prove to themselves within fairly short order that Apollo is charade and not science by answering the 4 questions above, questions one may find the answers to for the most part on the internet. This remarkable fact is true as these answers lead inexorably to the conclusion that there were Apollo 11 principals in possession of tranquility Base's coordinates independent of and therefore prior to Neil Armstrong's arrival at the mythological site. Showing to oneself this to be the case, one comfortably concludes Apollo 11 to be a fraudulent mission, a mission in which the famous astronauts never attained the moon.

I challenged members of this forum in a separate thread to answer the 4 questions above for the reason already stated and received not a single response from a poster in answer to my "challenge". As such, I thought it would be worthwhile to "reask" the question in its own dedicated thread to see if there were individuals brave enough to take up this insanely interesting quest for revelation.

So there it is! Give it a go, and as you answer questions 1 through 4, you'll find someone knew where Neil was going to land, EXACTLY WHERE, before he even landed there. This of course leads to the conclusion that as already mentioned, Apollo must be fraudulent.
 
Lick called NASA and got the coordinates as calculated and radioed back by Armstrong and Aldrin.

As has been already answered in your other thread. Link
 
Well, you've convinced me. Apollo 11 was faked. Now what about Apollo 12, Apollo 13, Apollo 14, Apollo 15, Apollo 16 and Apollo 17?

And why would I want to lick an observatory?
 
were Apollo 12, Apollo 13, Apollo 14, Apollo 15, Apollo 16 and Apollo 17 faked?
 
It's OK Event, just trying to drum up some interest in the question. If you are not interested, that is ok, but please try and remain on thread and in focus if you do decide to stay here and contribute. I welcome your participation. However, I am puzzled a little as you were so uninterested previously and never commented on this point.

Well, it's hard to be interested when someone is intentionally wasting the time of the other posters by not using the quote function.
 
Not one answer over there so thought i'd find someone brave enough to give it a try here.


Dozens of answers were given. All of them were correct. You're just too stupid to realize it.

The coordinates given to Lick did not match the coordinates calculated by Reed. The coordinates did, however, match the coordinates provided by the Apollo 11 crew long before Reed came to work the next day.
 
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You do realize, don't you, that when the Laser beam arrives at the Moon it has "spread out" to cover (if I remember correctly...about a kilometer) so there WAS NO NEED FOR ACCURATE COORDINATES FOR THE BEAM TO "HIT" THE REFLECTORS.

So your premise is flawed...why do you keep posting such nonsense??
 
Haven't seen one actually matt, please repost your best answers here so we may all see. I am sure others are as interested as me in seeing your work. thanks
 
Patrick, one more thing and then I'll leave you alone. I know this has nothing to do with the topic but I'm hoping you'll just answer quickly anyway and then you can move on. Could you please please just tell us why you won't use the quote function? Do you understand that this makes your threads difficult to follow? Is it your intention to make your thread hard to follow? It's almost as if you don't actually want people to contribute so you can instead just preach rather than having a discussion.
 
nvm. This thread moves faster than I can reply...


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X, you are wrong, citations/appropriate and valid references please.



That's it? Just "you're wrong", with no explanation at all? Follow my link. Source is given there.
 
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I know, its bad. On the other hand, I think those to whom I am responding know what they wrote and it is clear enough for the others. Thanks, may play with the tool some. Appreciate the constructive criticism.
 
I know, its bad. On the other hand, I think those to whom I am responding know what they wrote and it is clear enough for the others. Thanks, may play with the tool some. Appreciate the constructive criticism.

You don't need to 'play with the tool'! It's one button and then you type your reply. It's not rocket science, but then again.....;)
 
EXCELLENT WORK X, THAT IS EXACTLY THE ARTICLE I WAS HOPING YOU WOULD FIND, THE REMINGTON STONE ARTICLE. But you are not done. So how did the astronauts determine their coordinates? you haven't answered all the questions yet. you've actually just kind of started. But i agree 2,000,000 percent on your first reply. We are together on that one. Keep going and tell me more. What were the numbers and how did the astronauts calculate them?
 
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