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UFOs: The Research, the Evidence

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ufology said:
1 second goes by pretty fast ... we can all count one one-thousand, two one thousand ... or even just guess and be pretty accurate. This thing was gone in about the same time than it takes to say "one one-thousand", about the same time that it takes to snap your fingers when someone says "go" ... it left a glowing streak of light in its wake that dissipated fairly quickly.

The distance I know from looking at maps of the area and taking measurements from where it was when it started to where it went out of sight. The object was below the top of the mountains when it departed, and on the other side of the lake ( east side of the valley ) and stayed in the valley until it was gone from view. At some point I'll check with Google Earth to see if I can get even more accurate numbers, but even these numbers are close enough to figure out that this thing wasn't anything we have in our technological inventory.

j.r.
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You don't know, you made an estimate after the fact. You're relating an anecdote from memory. This is hardly reliable, unless you're going to re-define that word too.
 
carlitos said:
I just read some of the stories on your website. If I were you, I wouldn't send any critical thinkers there.
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Hey they are just my experiences ... I'm not going to banish myself from the world for having them, and personally I don't blame the skeptics for doubting. But I didn't fabricate any of them. Strange things happen out in that valley.

j.r.
 
Resume said:
You don't know, you made an estimate after the fact. You're relating an anecdote from memory. This is hardly reliable, unless you're going to re-define that word too.
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So you're saying I can't remember about how fast 1 second is or read a map? Don't be ridiculous.

j.r.
 
carlitos said:
I just read some of the stories on your website. If I were you, I wouldn't send any critical thinkers there.
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Looking over some of those stories leads me to think we are wasting our time trying to get ufology to accept logical or critical arguments.

The only conclusion I've drawn about these experiences is that some UFOs represent an advanced alien transportation technology. Anything else is pure speculation.
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Unbelievable.
 
ufology said:
So you're saying I can't remember about how fast 1 second is or read a map? Don't be ridiculous.

j.r.
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It would be ridiculous to assume that from an observation of one second you could make an accurate estimate as to range or trajectory.
 
Resume said:
It would be ridiculous to assume that from an observation of one second you could make an accurate estimate as to range or trajectory.
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Why? I saw where it was and where it went. I got a map and compared it. Why is that ridiculous? Explain please.

j.r.
 
ufology said:
Why? I saw where it was and where it went. I got a map and compared it? Why is that ridiculous? Explain please.

j.r.
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You imagine you made an accurate estimation of range and distance from a one second observation? Really?
 
1975 - Glowing Orb
During June of 1975, I was with my girlfriend Karen at her parent's ranch on the west side of Lake Windermere in British Columbia Canada. Her parents were gone and I was staying overnight with her and another younger friend of hers. The three of us were sitting together on the couch in the dark looking out the picture window and listening to Led Zeppelin Two. At midnight a glowing blue-white orb sprung up from behind the mountain range across the lake and bounced down the side of the mountain in three big arcs. We were all stunned and didn't know what to say. Finally Karen said, "did you see that?" we were already nodding. It was about the size of a Volkswagen beetle, but at our distance ( about 3 kilometers ), we couldn't make out any details. When it landed it went dark and stayed on the ground until about 2:00AM. Then it lit up, ascended straight up to about 200 meters, stopped instantly for about two seconds, then traced a graceful infinity symbol about 200 meters wide at a 30 degree angle to the right ( north ) of its starting point. It traced the symbol precisely in the same place four times in about 7 seconds, leaving a glowing trail of light behind, not unlike the effect of waving a glow-stick in a dark room. Then it stopped instantly and settled back into the forest in exactly the same spot it had taken off from and went dark again.

After that I was determined to stay awake all night so that in the morning I could get a fix on where it went down. The second time it came up it was around 4:00AM and by then both of the girls had nodded off. The orb repeated the same maneuver as it had the first time, then settled back into the forest and went dark. Around 6:00AM the light of dawn began to illuminate the valley well enough to make out where the orb had landed. So I went outside to get a better look, and just as I stepped out onto the landing, the orb came up again. It rose vertically to about 200 meters and stopped instantly. Only instead of repeating the infinity symbol maneuver, it turned bright white and instantly accelerated north up the valley as far as I could see. Quite literally, from where I was standing it traveled over 25 kilometers in about 1 second ... from a dead stop. No human technology has anything that comes close to that kind of performance. Given the precise repetitive maneuvers that it had performed, there is also no way that it was a random natural phenomenon. I am convinced that it was intelligently controlled.
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May I add "tired eyes" to my previous list of possibly mundane explanations?

Serious question about the highlighted part - you really believe that it's more likely that aliens were flying tricks for you than something was moving a light in circles?

ETA - Look at the red text. If you were on the WEST side of the lake, looking east across the lake at the mountains beyond, then right ≠ north.
 
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carlitos said:
May I add "tired eyes" to my previous list of possibly mundane explanations?

Serious question about the highlighted part - you really believe that it's more likely that aliens were flying tricks for you than something was moving a light in circles?

ETA - Look at the red text. If you were on the WEST side of the lake, looking east across the lake at the mountains beyond, then right ≠ north.
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don't they have fireflys in BC ?
:D
ufology how do you know it wasn't fireflys you saw
 
ufology said:
Why? I saw where it was and where it went. I got a map and compared it. Why is that ridiculous? Explain please.

j.r.
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Well, considering you confused south with north, I would have some questions on your map reading abilities, for starters.
 
Marduk said:
don't they have fireflys in BC ?
:D
ufology how do you know it wasn't fireflys you saw
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It was too far away and moved too fast to be a firefly. I don't think you can see a firefly 3km away ... even at night.

j.r.
 
ufology said:
It was too far away and moved too fast to be a firefly. I don't think you can see a firefly 3km away ... even at night.

j.r.
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you can if its right outside the window and your perspective is false
they even do figure eights as part of their mating dance

isn't that exactly what you claimed you saw, glowing orbs doing figure eights ?
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you didn't bother to go outside, did you ?
 
ufology said:
It was too far away and moved too fast to be a firefly. I don't think you can see a firefly 3km away ... even at night.

j.r.
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Again with the distances. To make these estimates in the time-frame you assert without benefit of optics is supernatural.

Plus, if you didn't investigate by at least going outside, why the hell not?
 
Resume said:
Again with the distances. To make these estimates in the time-frame you assert without benefit of optics is supernatural.

Plus, if you didn't investigate by at least going outside, why the hell not?
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because he was already a big fan of Aliens, going outside and having one land on his shoulder would have been counter intuitive (for a bleever)
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