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Merged New video! Architects and Engineers - Solving the Mystery of Building 7

bill smith said:
At last the perfect presentation. No normal person can see this and fail to be convinced. We should begin immediately to examine the composition and powers of a new investigation because it can't be far away now. We don't want the government setting up their own investigation again. We saw what happened the last time.

Obama and his people must be paying close attention to this. Will he make a statement in due course ? Will the MSM jump ship now or later ?
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LOL the truthers are still a small little fringe group and outside of the internet nearly impossible to find anywhere.
 
bill smith said:
If that's supposed to be the best case for the defence your guys had better see what countries will not extradite them.(If they can find one)

PS what caused these explosions ? Make it something that we can add it to the case for the defance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oew1KYnC428 explosions
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Nobody can know what caused those explosions. All we know is that there is a thousand possible things that could have caused them, and no amount of wishing on your part will eliminate everything except explosives.

Bill, no offense but these YouTube videos are tailor made for people like you to fall for them. I'm sure you sit there in rapt, unquestioning attention while watching it.
 
twinstead said:
Nobody can know what caused those explosions. All we know is that there is a thousand possible things that could have caused them, and no amount of wishing on your part will eliminate everything except explosives.

Bill, no offense but these YouTube videos are tailor made for people like you to fall for them. I'm sure you sit there in rapt, unquestioning attention while watching it.
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It's not a question of the thousand things it might be Twinstead, It's what people will believe. This presentation doesn't leave a lot of room for denial in ordinary people. Cognitive dissonance only goes so far.

"Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which they live is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of a corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.";--Mike Rivero

But now the propaganda is totally exposed..
 
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bill smith said:
Well it's not me you have to worry about Twinstead. It's all those millions of people who want to know the Truth..or soon will.
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Spoken like a true cult member. Soon everybody will acknowledge the Great Leader, won't they bill?

:D
 
bill smith said:
If that's supposed to be the best case for the defence your guys had better see what countries will not extradite them.(If they can find one)

PS what caused these explosions ? Make it something that we can add it to the case for the defance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oew1KYnC428 explosions
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Hahaha! 'If the best case is only finding 9 things wrong with the video in 4 minutes you've got problems.'
 
Dave Rogers said:
The building was damaged significantly by debris, was then on fire for seven hours, and no attempt to control the fires progressed to a point where it might have had any effect. Please feel free to obsess over irrelevant details.

Dave
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I read that the twin towers' floors and columns were rated for 2-3 hours of fire, was this the same for WTC7? If so then why is it so hard to believe a building collapsed after enduring uncontrolled fires for over twice the length of time? Jeez!
 
bill smith said:
PS what caused these explosions ? Make it something that we can add it to the case for the defance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oew1KYnC428 explosions
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We discussed this before and nobody who knows what they are talking about thinks they had anything to do with the cause of the collapse. They happen much too late. The most likely cause is car fires. That's what it sounds like to a fire fighter who has been around a few fires that involved explosions.
 
Something funny I noticed is that in the first minute, a narrator talks about how great and wonderful architects and engineers are (I agree with that). But then we quickly learn that this narrator is... an architect or engineer, right? No, it's a retired Hollywood actor! Okay, if that wasn't strange enough, the very next person in the video is a controlled demolition expert (again, not an engineer who spent a single second studying the engineering facts about WTC7 but watched its collapse on a laptop - in fact he was never even told the building was on fire and didn't even know what it was or that it collapsed on 9/11!). Then they show radio hosts interviewing a paramedic and a student (and then insert a sound effect of an explosion into a video of WTC7's collapse - how professional!). So at this point I'm thinking, after all the love given to architects and engineers in the intro, when are we actually going to HEAR FROM an architect or an engineer??? Then they next show... is it... could it finally be an engineer?! No, they show a 9/11 truther talking! Kevin McPadden! Then various audio clips of reporters. (All of whom only say it LOOKED like or was AS IF the building was imploded.)

Finally, five minutes into the video, they show a few architects and engineers, merely repeating the same insane claims that were disproven years ago. Then it's Neils Harrit (not an architect or engineer). Next up are two chemical engineers (I'll give half credit for these since its technically a field of engineering, but so is software engineer). Next is Kevin "The Waterboy" Ryan, a water tester. Then another chemical engineer, then a Seattle firefighter who wasn't even anywhere near NYC on 9/11, then a fired professor of solar energy and mormon theology expert, then a professor of Biology. A professor of Biology??? Of all the "experts" they interview, almost none of them are either architects or engineers. And sure there are a few architects and engineers in the video as well as who signed the petition on their website, but there's 1,700,000 employed architects and engineers in the U.S. alone. That doesn't even include retirees, professors, or ones who changed careers, much less those worldwide (and AE911Truth's members are from around the world). So if Ed Asner puts such high esteem into the expertise of architects and engineers, I wonder what he would say about the fact that over 99.99% of architects and engineers reject this controlled demolition garbage. Thanks for the laugh, marokkan.
 
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bill smith said:
It's not a question of the thousand things it might be Twinstead, It's what people will believe. This presentation doesn't leave a lot of room for denial in ordinary people. Cognitive dissonance only goes so far.
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What makes you think you are a judge of what ordinary people will believe?

I'm betting few will ever see it and far fewer yet will fail to see through the woo and believe it, and far fewer of them will care enough to do anything about it. Those people will be insane.
 
RKOwens4 said:
Something funny I noticed is that in the first minute, a narrator talks about how great and wonderful architects and engineers are (I agree with that). But then we quickly learn that this narrator is... an architect or engineer, right? No, it's a retired Hollywood actor! Okay, if that wasn't strange enough, the very next person in the video is a controlled demolition expert (again, not an engineer who spent a single second studying the engineering facts about WTC7 but watched its collapse on a laptop - in fact he was never even told the building was on fire and didn't even know what it was or that it collapsed on 9/11!). Then they show radio hosts interviewing a paramedic and a student (and then insert a sound effect of an explosion into a video of WTC7's collapse - how professional!). So at this point I'm thinking, after all the love given to architects and engineers in the intro, when are we actually going to HEAR FROM an architect or an engineer??? Then they next show... is it... could it finally be an engineer?! No, they show a 9/11 truther talking! Kevin McPadden! Then various audio clips of reporters. (All of whom only say it LOOKED like or was AS IF the building was imploded.)

Finally, five minutes into the video, they show a few architects and engineers, merely repeating the same insane claims that were disproven years ago. Then it's Neils Harrit (not an architect or engineer). Next up are two chemical engineers (I'll give half credit for these since its technically a field of engineering, but so is software engineer). Next is Kevin "The Waterboy" Ryan, a water tester. Then another chemical engineer, then a Seattle firefighter who wasn't even anywhere near NYC on 9/11, then a fired professor of solar energy and mormon theology expert, then a professor of Biology. A professor of Biology??? Of all the "experts" they interview, almost none of them are either architects or engineers. And sure there are a few architects and engineers in the video as well as who signed the petition on their website, but there's 1,700,000 employed architects and engineers in the U.S. alone. That doesn't even include retirees, professors, or ones who changed careers, much less those worldwide (and AE911Truth's members are from around the world). So if Ed Asner puts such high esteem into the expertise of architects and engineers, I wonder what he would say about the fact that over 99.99% of architects and engineers reject this controlled demolition garbage. Thanks for the laugh, marokkan.
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you make a wrong claim there, i suggest you watch the full jowenko interview again.
 
Sabretooth said:
Funny...Hilter said the same thing...
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One of his buddies expounded this truth :-

"Propaganda is not meant to fool the intelligencia, it is merely meant to provide them an excuse to avoid seeing ugly realities they’d sooner not believe.”-- Josef Goebbels
 
bill smith said:
One of his buddies expounded this truth :-

"Propaganda is not meant to fool the intelligencia, it is merely meant to provide them an excuse to avoid seeing ugly realities they’d sooner not believe.”-- Josef Goebbels
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Shocking. You'd think given that quote that you would recognize the video in the OP as the propaganda that it is then.
 
bill smith said:
One of his buddies expounded this truth :-

"Propaganda is not meant to fool the intelligencia, it is merely meant to provide them an excuse to avoid seeing ugly realities they’d sooner not believe.”-- Josef Goebbels
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I don't think that statement means what you think it means....


good try, though...
 
OK. I watched a little of it.

Now I know why AE911 needed all that money ($20K IIRC). They had to hire an actor.

("truthers") Money well spent?

That's it.


:o
 
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