Mr. Skinny
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Don't blow anyone's cover AJM. Didn't you see the recent memo from HQ?
Reasonable doubt...All truthers(and whoever esle) please read
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Sabretooth
No Ordinary Rabbit
jaydeehess
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Jeez, for a person who is willing to take offhand remarks from witnesses as positive ID of molten steel in the underground debris fire zone you are sure reluctant to acknowledge that the wing faring (BTW someone correct me if I am not using the right term there) is very likely what is being referred to in the 'pod mystery'. You can see it for yourself as clear as the back of your hand, its the same shape as the 'pod', its in the same location as the 'pod' and its visible in dozens of pictures of 767s
How do figure that? Boeing did not state that they did not know what it was, just that they did not want to talk to these journalists. Let's see, these guys were asking about the plane that hit the WTC tower on 9/11. What would that mean to a Boeing media rep? That entering into a discussion of the plane would draw Boeing into a long and drawn out back and forth with 911 conspiracy believers. They do not know the paper, they do not know the reporters in question, and Boeing does not want to be dragged about on internet forums, mistinterpreted, quoted out of context or lied about so they just shut down the discussion right there. What they do know about these reporters is that they have not bothered to look for other pictures of 767s and noticed that the wing faring is in the same location and the same shape.
Hmmm, sounds a lot like typical 911 conspiracy 'research'
The drawings are on the Boeing web site and there are pictures of Boeing 767s all over the place. Did you not say they were from Barcelona trip out to the international airport might ha been in order don't you think? They don't have connections at the airport who can get them on the tarmac with an expert who can identify a 767 for them?
No 767s flying into Barcelona? Try Madrid. Who has 767s?
http://www.flightglobal.com/elqnow/...0/assets/getAsset.aspx?ItemID=35827&tracked=1 767 listing begin of page 36
British Airways owns 21, KLM has 15.
These guys waited ten days at their desks to see if Boeing would respond?
In ten days they could have gone to Demark and back and viewed one of the eleven 767s that Denmark's Star Air owns.
Why is it that I, who simply hung around with journalism students back when I was in university can find all of this out and think, think, think of ways to get a look at a 767 other than sitting at a desk looking at pictures of ONE 767 taken on Sept 11/01?
Does that not interest you at all? Does not doing your own research interest you at all?
jaydeehess
Penultimate Amazing
Checking online I see that KLM flies 737s and A320s into Barcelona and Madrid. I have not check BA or Air Canada though I do know that years ago a Canadian charter air carrier(name escapes me) flew 767s to southern Europe. I know this because one ran out of fuel and had to glide into a landing in the Azores(IIRC)
Gee it seems like it not that difficult to find what airlines fly and what flights they use them on. Probably wasn't much different in 2003. Hell I recall in the 1980s that Air Canada listed the a/c type on their paper flight sched(no such thing as internet back then).
Gee it seems like it not that difficult to find what airlines fly and what flights they use them on. Probably wasn't much different in 2003. Hell I recall in the 1980s that Air Canada listed the a/c type on their paper flight sched(no such thing as internet back then).
DGM
Skeptic not Atheist
Is it me or does every post tmd2_1 make sound like the parents (or teacher) in a Peanuts cartoon?
You clearly did not read the article. It says "Meanwhile Martín de Pozuelo consulted aviation experts—among them an aeronautical engineer who asked not to be identified, due to his rank. He spent all one morning analising the photos in the “La Vanguardia”. His pronouncement reinforced the hypothesis of something added to the fuselage."
Even besides who better to go to then the people that make the plane? The article also said they were in contact with Boeing for 10 days everyday until Boeing made their pronouncement. All they had to say was, there's nothing unusual this is just a fairing. I give them tremendous credit for not doing that, if they had done that, I certainly wouldn't be talking about it nor would many CT. You make absolutely no sense, look at Boeing's website for drawings, when we don't get the answer we want from them. That's essentially what you are saying. Do you see how little sense that makes? These are the people, very smart people, that make the planes. You're asking the people that made those drawings, they give an answer, but you should look at the drawings anyway because the answer they gave is wrong? It's absurd. Totally absurd. You and others are just saying this because you don't like their answer.
As I said I give them all the credit in the world for giving that answer.
The key here is to get informed perspectives. You'd agree, I'm sure that not all perspectives are created equally.
No doubt....except this is the only experiment I know of that tries to find out the source of Sulfur.
Well, let's applaud the effort, but keep in mind that the FEMA scientist who initially mentioned the sulfidized steel said that the mechanism which produced it was unknown. Is this the same sulfur you're speaking of?
TJM
Potsing Whiled Runk
Okay, good. I thought so. This sulfidized steel was only found on two steel members that were not vertical support columns. How could it have any relevance to the cause of the collapse?
It really doesn't matter, it shouldn't have been there at all. It could have been from the byproduct of a reaction.
Of course it matters. If you can't make a sensible case for what effect on the structure that is evidenced by that miniscule amount of sulfidized steel, you've just wasted chunks of your life you'll never get back again.
The key is the presentation of evidence. Do you have any?
The key is the presentation of evidence. Do you have any?
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At the risk of sounding like I'm avoiding the question (because you can read through the whole thread and find what I think is evidence) but what is this great amount of evidence for the official story?
Well, so as to avoid confusion and talking past each other - what is "the official story"?
What I mean is what specifically are you asking for evidence for?
Because it seems like you're attempting to deflect by saying "well it doesn't matter if I don't have any evidence because there's no more evidence for what the government said happened".
With all respect.
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That's not quite what I'm saying (by the way I started a thread on this topic because I got the idea from this conversation) what I'm saying is I believe there is little to no evidence to link AQ or Bin laden to the attacks. There is more evidence against it. The evidence I presented in this thread to molten steel, is what is coming out of the south tower. Aluminum melts silver at the temperature the fires should have been at. NIST said it was orange because it was mixed with building materials. Experiments show those materials would fall off. So if it was Aluminum it would still be Silver. Steel was the only metal that was there in the amount of quantity that was seen melting. Other pictures of what appears to be molten steel. Steve jones ran an analysis and determined it was not aluminum. Where he got the sample I do not know though. Witnesses saying they saw molten steel.
That was just for the molten steel. Many other topics were covered. Most of the OP was ignored though.
How do you find morons who make up lies about pods? People posting about the pods, and dredge up an "aviation expert" who has no clue what the pod is so he makes up a lie. That is nonsense.
How many Pulitzer Prizes would the morons you found have if what they had was backed with evidence instead of delusions? Have you added up all the fake statements you have posted from other people?
Have you retracted the terrorists being alive?
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leftysergeant
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The sideburns in the Navy Annex picture reach below the subject's ear pina. Wrong dude. Learn to interpret photographic evidence.