Split Thread What does "MIHOP" mean?

[femr2]

F2, what does the acroynm P.C. stand for when talking about computers?

My userID is femr2, not "F2".

Irrelevant to this discussion. Your "argument" doesn't work...

Printed Circuit ?
Professional Computer ?
Program Control ?
Program Code ?
Pocket Computer ?
Process Control ?
Portable Computer ?
Program Counter ?
Processor Cache ?
Private Chat ?
Patch Cord ?
Phase Change ?
Player Controlled ?
Project Code ?
...etc... ?

You can add personal computer to that list if you like, but you cannot preclude others without extended discussion of specific context with active participant feedback.

You could assume one of the above, but you could easily be wrong.

None of which is relevant when literal use of a descriptive acronym is performed.

Your logic implying specific context by non-specific dialogue doesn't work.

On 2nd thought champ, never mind..I have grown quit tired of your inabilty to see the reality through the haze of your ignorance.

Okay. Bye.

subsequentlly the "who".

Incorrect.

 

[Sabretooth]

Incorrect. At the very least, read.

So you're trying to be the "cool, different" guy...you don't wanna be part of the mainstream...cuz they're totally square, man....I get it.

It doesn't matter. Not everyone is going to agree, but the vast majority do agree on what MIHOP means to them.

Get over it. You sound like your trying to convince everyone here that butterscotch pudding is the best flavor when everyone knows it's chocolate.

Agree to disagree and move on with...whatever it is you do...

 

[NoahFence]

 

[femr2]

So you're trying to be the "cool, different" guy...you don't wanna be part of the mainstream...cuz they're totally square, man....I get it.

Incorrect. Address the argument.

Not everyone is going to agree, but the vast majority do agree on what MIHOP means to them.

If that's what you think, that's fine. There's a very small handful of people actually discussing the subject, but if you want to apply "vast majorities", be my guest.

You sound like your trying to convince everyone here that butterscotch pudding is the best flavor when everyone knows it's chocolate.

Incorrect. I'm simply saying, to use your allegory, that butterscotch and chocolate are two available pudding flavours

(A useful allegory though )

 

[Sabretooth]

Incorrect. Address the argument.


If that's what you think, that's fine. There's a very small handful of people actually discussing the subject, but if you want to apply "vast majorities", be my guest.


Incorrect. I'm simply saying that butterscotch and chocolate are two available pudding flavours

I, amongst most others, don't agree with you. Get over it.

 

[femr2]

I, amongst most others, don't agree with you.

Using your allegory you are saying...

Chocolate pudding is the only flavour of pudding in the world. There is no such thing as butterscotch flavour pudding.

Clearly, you are, and always will be...incorrect.

Many flavours of pudding exist, just as many "flavours" of MIHOP exist.

The group-think herd mentality is fascinating though.

"We're right because there's more of us than you (and we'll continue arguing with you because we don't like you)"

A form of bullying I'd suggest, and of course, completely incorrect.

Even if this thread reached 1000 pages in length, asserting that "MIHOP means" only "USG-MIHOP" will always be incorrect.

 

[Sabretooth]

femr2,

When you see the acronym "MIHOP" as referenced in the JREF 9/11 sub-forum, what is the first definition that comes to mind?

 

[femr2]

femr2,

When you see the acronym "MIHOP" as referenced in the JREF 9/11 sub-forum, what is the first definition that comes to mind?

Made It Happen On Purpose.

I see your poll has already "failed".

Hilarious.

 

[Sabretooth]

Made It Happen On Purpose.

I see your poll has already "failed".

Hilarious.

Sorry...the poll is valid. I didn't poison the well or coach the reader into giving me their opinion. I asked for an opinion of the reader, not for a text book definition. You didn't read the OP.

I know you need it to fail to jusitfy your ego...sorry.

 

[Carll68]

Your post below further validates my point and creates greater distance from your point.

You can make "P.C." mean anything you desire, however, this nullifies your own argument..unless you are now saying that MIHOP does not mean, as you put it

MADE.IT.HAPPEN.ON.PURPOSE.

But, it does, as you have stated. To which I have agreed.

So, in your own example, you are taking the opposite stance against that which you have argued.

P.C., when discussing the topic of computers, means "Personal Computer. This is why all the focus groups conclude that when advertising Dell and HP (another nasty acroynm that proves my point) computers, they all utilize "PC". Even though, F2, it (<<<<again, subject matter) COULD mean many things, in context, it (<<<< subject matter) does not.

The context is supplied, and if the writer/speaker wishes to assign a alternate meaning to the commonly held meaning, it is up to them to clarify, not the reader/listener to guess.

Good job champ proving yourself wrong.

My userID is femr2, not "F2".

Irrelevant to this discussion. Your "argument" doesn't work...

Printed Circuit ?
Professional Computer ?
Program Control ?
Program Code ?
Pocket Computer ?
Process Control ?
Portable Computer ?
Program Counter ?
Processor Cache ?
Private Chat ?
Patch Cord ?
Phase Change ?
Player Controlled ?
Project Code ?
...etc... ?

You can add personal computer to that list if you like, but you cannot preclude others without extended discussion of specific context with active participant feedback.

You could assume one of the above, but you could easily be wrong.

None of which is relevant when literal use of a descriptive acronym is performed.

Your logic implying specific context by non-specific dialogue doesn't work.


Okay. Bye.


Incorrect.

 

[femr2]

P.C., when discussing the topic of computers, means "Personal Computer.

Incorrect. All the terms I provided could be being discussed whilst discussing "computers".

They are all computer related terms.

That is why your attempt at critical thinking and application of logic fails so obviously.

I agree that "personal computer" is very common, but it is possible to be discussing "processor cache" by use of "P.C." within a discussion about "computers".

Without narrowing the context, you don't know the actual intent of use of an acronym.

You'd be right most of the time in that case I imagine, but not all.

When a person in the discussion LETS YOU KNOW that when they are writing "P.C." they are talking about "processor cache" then that is then set in stone. Cannot be argued with.

Try again, though I thought you'd already delcared...

On 2nd thought champ, never mind..I have grown quit tired of your inabilty to see the reality through the haze of your ignorance.

Seems you are not able to stand by your own assertion. Ho hum.

 

[femr2]

Sorry...the poll is valid. I didn't poison the well or coach the reader into giving me their opinion. I asked for an opinion of the reader, not for a text book definition.

And you are receiving polls. Not all of them are "USG-MIHOP", therefore your intent to show that ONLY "USG-MIHOP" is correct has already failed.

You didn't read the OP.

Incorrect.

 

[Carll68]

There is nothing to agree or not agree to. There are facts..that is all.

There is no "think it means". Literacy sorts all of this out for us.

We either know, or dont know.... and we know.

It (<<<< subject matter) is fact. The context, the subject matter, supplies the meaning. "It" refers to the subject everytime, each time, without fail. Never changes. Can't be altered.

Thus, when discussing 9/11..that is, when the subject matter is 9/11, the "it" is 9/11, and MIHOP, unless clarified OTHERWISE, is assigned the common definition in context, and thus means the USG made the events of 9/11 occur on puropose.

F2 is wrong.

You are correct.

Case closed.

So you're trying to be the "cool, different" guy...you don't wanna be part of the mainstream...cuz they're totally square, man....I get it.

It doesn't matter. Not everyone is going to agree, but the vast majority do agree on what MIHOP means to them.

Get over it. You sound like your trying to convince everyone here that butterscotch pudding is the best flavor when everyone knows it's chocolate.

Agree to disagree and move on with...whatever it is you do...

 

[Carll68]

So you are now, as I stated earlier, left stating that

MIHOP

Does not mean

MADE.IT.HAPPEN.ON.PURPOSE.

Is this your new contention? Your post below confirms this. Can't have it both ways F2.

Incorrect. All the terms I provided could be being discussed whilst discussing "computers".

They are all computer related terms.

That is why your attempt at critical thinking and application of logic fails so obviously.

I agree that "personal computer" is very common, but it is possible to be discussing "processor cache" by use of "P.C." within a discussion about "computers".

Without narrowing the context, you don't know the actual intent of use of an acronym.

You'd be right most of the time in that case I imagine, but not all.

When a person in the discussion LETS YOU KNOW that when they are writing "P.C." they are talking about "processor cache" then that is then set in stone. Cannot be argued with.

Try again, though I thought you'd already delcared...


Seems you are not able to stand by your own assertion. Ho hum.

 

[NoahFence]

that butterscotch and chocolate are two available pudding flavours

incorrect.

Pudding, no matter the flavor, is not the topic of this thread.

 

[femr2]

So you are now, as I stated earlier, left stating that

MIHOP

Does not mean

MADE.IT.HAPPEN.ON.PURPOSE.

Someone. Has. Lost. The. Plot.

MIHOP does not mean only USG-MIHOP.

 

[femr2]

Thus, when discussing 9/11..that is, when the subject matter is 9/11, the "it" is 9/11, and MIHOP, unless clarified OTHERWISE, is assigned the common definition in context, and thus means the USG made the events of 9/11 occur on puropose.

ROFL. Where did "USG" come from ?

I've never used MIHOP with any particular "who".

Regardless of assumption, the use is "who-less".

 

[Carll68]

We can now see that F2 has retracted his beleif that MIHOP means "Made. It.Happen.On.Purpose."

So, when he replied to a truther that he, is, also, clearly, MIHOP, when discussing the collapse of the twins towers, it has no literal meaning, and is simply letters thrown together without merit or meaning.

This is the corner F2 has painted himself into.

He admits the context needs narrowed to assign meaning (which is incorrect, it simply narrows the contect and puts additional detail onto the "it"). However, by admitting this, has a conundrum...because the scope of the conversation was indeed very narrow...

That context, that scope, was the collapse of the WTC.
So, either MIHOP is only a gibberish of letters...or, as he stated, it means "MADE.IT.HAPPEN.ON.PURPOSE".

If it (subject) translates to Made It happen On purpose (WHICH IT DOES), then he has unwillingly admitted that conversational context gives the "It" (WTC collapse) and also supplies the who (stance against common held narrative) USG.

There is not a stance which account for "not on purpose"...even the official and correct narrative documents that AQ attacked us on purpose, the towers on purpose..and we know that very purpose.

To argue against that stance implicates the USG..and I dont mean University System of Georgia...but we know that..because of context.

So, this is truly a done deal now. F2 has been proven deceitful and/or ignorant of grammar and literacy.

Take your pick.

Incorrect. All the terms I provided could be being discussed whilst discussing "computers".

They are all computer related terms.

That is why your attempt at critical thinking and application of logic fails so obviously.

I agree that "personal computer" is very common, but it is possible to be discussing "processor cache" by use of "P.C." within a discussion about "computers".

Without narrowing the context, you don't know the actual intent of use of an acronym.

You'd be right most of the time in that case I imagine, but not all.

When a person in the discussion LETS YOU KNOW that when they are writing "P.C." they are talking about "processor cache" then that is then set in stone. Cannot be argued with.

Try again, though I thought you'd already delcared...


Seems you are not able to stand by your own assertion. Ho hum.

 

[femr2]

We can now see that F2 has retracted his beleif that MIHOP means "Made. It.Happen.On.Purpose."

You are showing your intellect I'm afraid. As civily as possible...that's not good.

You are talking utter nonsense.

After I've stated "I've never used MIHOP with ANY specific "who" intended", to try and shoehorn my intention by your inept manipulation of context into my intent being a "USG" who is idiotic beyond belief.

Funny though.

 

[Disbelief]

Some of the additional "who" options could be viewed as including US government elements, however, certainly not all.

I was asking about a particular one that you specifically used as an example.

The point being that USG-MIHOP is not the only possible meaning.

But for Peak Oil MIHOP, it has to include the USG. If you can show otherwise, please do.

It appears the roundabout has begun again.

I suggest you read the thread from the beginning.

I suggest you take your condescending attitude and cram it, considering I have read this thread from the beginning.

There really is no excuse.

There is no excuse, so it would be nice if you would admit that you are wrong when discussing MIHOP in the 9/11 conspiracy forum.