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Reasonable doubt...All truthers(and whoever esle) please read

tmd2_1 said:
No math is necessary. That building was 41 stories tall (where the bones were found). The south tower is likely where it came from (though it doesn't matter)
The greatest expansion or explosion(explosion being used as a term for what is happening to the bodies because of the weight of the collapse) of body parts should have been near the bottom. How does it shoot up 41 stories?
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No math necessary. Do all twoofers have that tattooed on their body? Where did you study the physics of the highlighted part? You need math to prove your case. Bellman tactics do not work in the real world.
 
dafydd said:
You appear to have linked to a video made by some mental cases. Could you provide the correct link that gives the math?
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You don't need Math....you only need a pair of eyes. Look at this video it's a compilation of the verinage technique. Floors are removed top block comes crashing down when met with resistance it begins to decelerate. Also notice how in almost all cases it doesn't come straight down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwFHEoiUZ7o
 
tmd,I've been wondering how the former evil guv'ment and the current evil guv'ment keeps the thousands of people involved in your conspiracy quiet. Hoe do they do it? Clinton couldn't even keep the whereabouts of his todger a secret.
 
tfk said:
tmd2,

AFAIK, none of Ryan Mackey's or Frank Greening's comments made it into the FEMA report.
Like you just said that they did.

Now I'm going to take this comment of yours, I am not going to listen to any explanation from you as to why your intended meaning was not what was explicitly written.

I have your words: "You have in the FEMA report...that both Frank Greening and Ryan Mackey wanted NIST to run more tests".

Those are your words.

You NEVER get to correct or elaborate on them.

Kinda unfair, wouldn't ya say?

Exactly what you do with Leslie Robertson's comments.
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I stand corrected. Mike's, and now Tom's, should have been the end of this thread (again, no disrespect intended to anyone still posting). Another perfect example of the double-standard truthers operate under.
 
We're going in twoofer circles. tmd is logic and reality proof. Time to stop?
 
cantonear1968 said:
I stand corrected. Mike's, and now Tom's, should have been the end of this thread (again, no disrespect intended to anyone still posting). Another perfect example of the double-standard truthers operate under.
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What? I never said mackey or greening's words were in the FEMA report. I said they had there own reports, where they suggested NIST do more testing. There's a big difference between a message board and issuing a statement. they've had 5 years to say they have hard evidence against him.
 
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tmd2_1 said:
What? I never said mackey or greening's words were in the FEMA report. I said they had there own reports, where they suggested NIST do more testing. There's a big difference between a message board and issuing a statement. they've had 5 years to say they have hard evidence against him.
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tmd2_1 said:
You have in the FEMA report...that both Frank Greening and Ryan Mackey wanted NIST to run more tests on
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That was the point of Tom's response, which was apparently completely lost on you. You made a post which, on its face, appears that you are saying Greening's and Mackey's comments were in the FEMA report. They weren't. You have the option to go back and clarify your words to set the record straight, and I believe most of us will accept that you simply made a mistake while typing. Yet you deny this to Leslie Robertson. Whether he stated "molten steel" or not (I accept that he did), he clarified the record to say that he personally did not witness this nor was in a position to witness it. You simply hand wave this away as "he was gotten to".

A double standard. Truthers are always allowed to clarify when they misspeak, yet when rational people do it, it is "proof" of conspiracy.
 
tmd2_1 said:
What? I never said mackey or greening's words were in the FEMA report. I said they had there own reports, where they suggested NIST do more testing. There's a big difference between a message board and issuing a statement. they've had 5 years to say they have hard evidence against him.
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In keeping with your pattern when caught in a lie, lie again. Dave Rogers nailed it about 30 pages ago.
 
cantonear1968 said:
That was the point of Tom's response, which was apparently completely lost on you. You made a post which, on its face, appears that you are saying Greening's and Mackey's comments were in the FEMA report. They weren't. You have the option to go back and clarify your words to set the record straight, and I believe most of us will accept that you simply made a mistake while typing. Yet you deny this to Leslie Robertson. Whether he stated "molten steel" or not (I accept that he did), he clarified the record to say that he personally did not witness this nor was in a position to witness it. You simply hand wave this away as "he was gotten to".

A double standard. Truthers are always allowed to clarify when they misspeak, yet when rational people do it, it is "proof" of conspiracy.
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Did you read when I said there is a big difference between a statement and a message board? Trying to save keystrokes type-o's..etc Robertson had plenty of time to correct himself and didn't.
 
tmd2_1 said:
Did you read when I said there is a big difference between a statement and a message board? Trying to save keystrokes type-o's..etc Robertson had plenty of time to correct himself and didn't.
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So have you and you haven't.
 
tmd2_1 said:
Did you read when I said there is a big difference between a statement and a message board? Trying to save keystrokes type-o's..etc Robertson had plenty of time to correct himself and didn't.
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Robertson did correct himself, as has been pointed out to you on several occasions. You, in typical truther fashion, ignore this.

And why are you distinguishing between a message board and Robertson's presentation? This was a comment given during a presentation at a University. Not a scientific paper that would be subject to editing and review. I think it should be obvious he made an ill-worded statement which he later didn't even recall making and took back.

Much like yourself with the FEMA Report comment. Or should we take that as gospel from you and conclude that because you got that one thing wrong, you don't get to correct it, and therefore everything you say is wrong?

As I said, double standard and an unwillingness to learn. You are simply relying on the comments of a few as proof of molten steel, and to take even one away lessens your case. That is disingenuous at best and dishonest at worst.
 
cantonear1968 said:
Robertson did correct himself, as has been pointed out to you on several occasions. You, in typical truther fashion, ignore this.

And why are you distinguishing between a message board and Robertson's presentation? This was a comment given during a presentation at a University. Not a scientific paper that would be subject to editing and review. I think it should be obvious he made an ill-worded statement which he later didn't even recall making and took back.

Much like yourself with the FEMA Report comment. Or should we take that as gospel from you and conclude that because you got that one thing wrong, you don't get to correct it, and therefore everything you say is wrong?

As I said, double standard and an unwillingness to learn. You are simply relying on the comments of a few as proof of molten steel, and to take even one away lessens your case. That is disingenuous at best and dishonest at worst.
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You forgot 'deluded'.
 
tmd2_1 said:
If you have a problem with Leslie Robertson take it up with him. I'm sure he'd love to hear how you think he's unqualified to recognize molten steel. It's not like he build the world trade center or anything.
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When the WTCs were built, was the steel molten at the time?
 
Ok...we're getting to a point in this thread when we are just going around in circles. Most of the "debunking" to my OP was laughable at best. With the WTC 7 being a mistake. Yeah at 11:07 50 floors came down. Everyone knew it was going to come down yet it took NIST 7 years to explain. There were more that were even worse. OBL didn't buy the stocks so what does that say. Yeah that's good debunking right there. Most of the thread was about molten metal in which most people said they don't know if it's aluminum or not. Certainly reasonable doubt to what it is. This last exchange proved where we are it. Trying to make a statement I wrote and compare it to what Leslie Robertson wrote. Even if I spoke those words I wrote the meaning would be clear. For example if I were in a conversation about Joe Biden..and said President Biden, instead of President Biden..and not correct it, not a big deal. What could Robertson have been meaning to say? This discussion shows where this is going.

I don't know what more I can add, it's all here. If someone comes up with something new I'll respond..otherwise I think it has all been covered.
 
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