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Reasonable doubt...All truthers(and whoever esle) please read

Animal said:
A plane traveling over 500 mph full of passengers.......then the other more gruesome possibility......birds, just like remains were found in manholes.

Troofers always ignore the simple answers and go for the ridiculous.
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Pathetic,isn't it? That he would actually put that forward as an argument. A sad failure of the educational system that he passed or is passing through.
 
tmd2_1 said:
I mean people' bone fragments yards away on tops of buildings how does that happen? I mean it's hard to imagine the collapse doing that.
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At the risk of sounding extremely insensitive, it's not hard at all to see the collapse doing that. My mom saw a car accident about a month ago where an elderly man was pushed into a fire hydrant and ripped in two. That's what happens when a 2,000 pound vehicle forces a 180-pound person into a solid object. The WTC were both 500,000 ton assemblies of steel that slammed down on anything in their path. The human body is fragile, no explosives are needed to explain how just the collapse was capable of completely destroying people's bodies down to tiny bone fragments.

I suggest if you're curious you google the images, and do so only if you can handle the graphic nature of them. It's extremely insensitive but the reality is it's hardly an unexpected product of the collapse.

This is one of those topics I really hate getting into...
 
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tmd2_1 said:
You guys love to put words in people's mouths. I said it was possible remote controlled 767's were used. Modified tankers. Showed evidence of how it could be done, showed Boeing's weird statement on the matter (not implicating them) Now that turns into I've implicated everyone?
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Oh that's right, Boeing is also in on it in your theory.

So now we have:
Boeing
the FAA
the FBI
the CIA
the Mossad/Israel
Everyone who bought airline put options just prior to the attacks
the FDNY
the Port Authorty of NY-NJ
The Port Authority Police
Hundreds of air traffic controllers
Thousands of first responders in Pennsylvania, Virginia, and New York from dozens of municipalities
American Airlines
United Airlines
Thousands of Pentagon workers
NIST
ASCE
The US Attorney General's office and all their investigators
Local District Attorneys in Pennsylvania, New York, and Virginia
Engineering departments and professors within in universities across the USA and the world
Etc etc etc

How "small" is this conspiracy tmd2-1?
 
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Oh that's right, Boeing is also in om it in your theory.

So now we have:
Boeing
the FAA
the FBI
the CIA
the Mossad/Israel
Everyone who bought airline put options just prior to the attacks
the FDNY
the Port Authorty of NY-NJ
The Port Authority Police
Hundreds of air traffic controllers
Thousands of first responders in Pennsylvania, Virginia, and New York from dozens of municipalities
American Airlines
United Airlines
Thousands of Pentagon workers
NIST
ASCE
The US Attorney General's office and all their investigators
Local District Attorneys in Pennsylvania, New York, and Virginia
Engineering departments and professors within in universities across the USA and the world
Etc etc etc

How "small" is this conspiracy tmd2-1?
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New At McDonalds! The McTroofer. A quarter pound of pure crap.
 
WildCat said:
Oh that's right, Boeing is also in om it in your theory.

So now we have:
Boeing
the FAA
the FBI
the CIA
the Mossad/Israel
Everyone who bought airline put options just prior to the attacks
the FDNY
the Port Authorty of NY-NJ
The Port Authority Police
Hundreds of air traffic controllers
Thousands of first responders in Pennsylvania, Virginia, and New York from dozens of municipalities
American Airlines
United Airlines
Thousands of Pentagon workers
NIST
ASCE
The US Attorney General's office and all their investigators
Local District Attorneys in Pennsylvania, New York, and Virginia
Engineering departments and professors within in universities across the USA and the world
Etc etc etc

How "small" is this conspiracy tmd2-1?
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The cabal did it by mind control.
 
Grizzly Bear said:
At the risk of sounding extremely insensitive, it's not hard at all to see the collapse doing that. My mom saw a car accident about a month ago where an elderly man was pushed into a fire hydrant and ripped in two. That's what happens when a 2,000 pound vehicle forces a 180-pound person into a solid object. The WTC were both 500,000 ton assemblies of steel that slammed down on anything in their path. The human body is fragile, no explosives are needed to explain how just the collapse was capable of completely destroying people's bodies down to tiny bone fragments.

I suggest if you're curious you google the images, and do so only if you can handle the graphic nature of them. It's extremely insensitive but the reality is it's hardly an unexpected product of the collapse.

This is one of those topics I really hate getting into...
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You may be right...but how would they go out? Especially that far out? Doesn't seem like it should, it's not columns where a spring type of affect could take place. To me it just doesn't make sense.
 
tmd2_1 said:
You guys love to put words in people's mouths. I said it was possible remote controlled 767's were used. Modified tankers.
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Except that, as several people have proved, it's impossible rig up a remote-control to a 767/757 covertly.

Showed evidence of how it could be done, showed Boeing's weird statement on the matter (not implicating them)
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Their statement was "no statement, national security". Trying to infer something from a non-existent statement is desperate, dishonest sophistry.

Now that turns into I've implicated everyone?
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To pull off the scheme you describe, yes.
 
Grizzly Bear said:
At the risk of sounding extremely insensitive, it's not hard at all to see the collapse doing that. My mom saw a car accident about a month ago where an elderly man was pushed into a fire hydrant and ripped in two. That's what happens when a 2,000 pound vehicle forces a 180-pound person into a solid object. The WTC were both 500,000 ton assemblies of steel that slammed down on anything in their path. The human body is fragile, no explosives are needed to explain how just the collapse was capable of completely destroying people's bodies down to tiny bone fragments.

I suggest if you're curious you google the images, and do so only if you can handle the graphic nature of them. It's extremely insensitive but the reality is it's hardly an unexpected product of the collapse.

This is one of those topics I really hate getting into...
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If you're going to engage twoofers then your hands will get dirty. I agree though,twoofers have urinated on the memory of the victims once too often.
 
tmd2_1 said:
You may be right...but how would they go out? Especially that far out? Doesn't seem like it should, it's not columns where a spring type of affect could take place. To me it just doesn't make sense.
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Once again,your lack of knowledge is irrelevant . It's facts that count.
 
Grizzly Bear said:
At the risk of sounding extremely insensitive, it's not hard at all to see the collapse doing that. My mom saw a car accident about a month ago where an elderly man was pushed into a fire hydrant and ripped in two. That's what happens when a 2,000 pound vehicle forces a 180-pound person into a solid object. The WTC were both 500,000 ton assemblies of steel that slammed down on anything in their path. The human body is fragile, no explosives are needed to explain how just the collapse was capable of completely destroying people's bodies down to tiny bone fragments.

I suggest if you're curious you google the images, and do so only if you can handle the graphic nature of them. It's extremely insensitive but the reality is it's hardly an unexpected product of the collapse.

This is one of those topics I really hate getting into...
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Check this out for more info...some as far as 400 feet away?

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/bodies.html
 
tmd2_1 said:
The word was a relatively small cabal, and they wouldn't all be americans. A few hundred is small compared to the number of government employees
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But huge compared to any real-world successful conspiracy that remained concealed for any length of time. We're not talking a few people embezzling company funds, we're talking about large-scale conspiracy to commit murder.
 
tmd2_1 said:
To me it just doesn't make sense.
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The old "argument from personal incredulity" truther standby.

It really does make sense to most people. And to most people your incredibly vast and complicated theoy is absolutely insane.
 
tmd2_1 said:
You may be right...but how would they go out? Especially that far out? Doesn't seem like it should, it's not columns where a spring type of affect could take place. To me it just doesn't make sense.
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Some victims were in the planes traveling at high speeds sending debris and fragments at a distance. Otherwise you have two buildings at 1300 feet in height that sent debris tumbling far enough to land on adjacent buildings 2 to 300 ft away. Both factors even without explosives make that fact rather unsurprising.
 
000063 said:
There was a plane that hit the buildings at an approximate speed of "very fast".

Say, were any of these bodies found 400 feet away from WTC 7? No? They weren't? They were from the buildings hit by freaking planes?
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Everybody was out of WTC 7. The planes and subsequent bodies falling out would not have caused them to be unrecognizable. If this even happened at all, I know of no report that states this.
 
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