dafydd
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Forget the Pope,the only infallible thing in the world is a twoofer.
Reasonable doubt...All truthers(and whoever esle) please read
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Forget the Pope,the only infallible thing in the world is a twoofer.
tsig
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tmd - let me ask you something.
I'd actually like this one answered too. Imagine that.
WHY would you link to the NIST report, or at least a FAQ of it from NIST themselves? If their answer to that one question is sufficient in your mind to back you up on a point, why wouldn't the rest of the answers they provide be good enough for you as well?
I'd actually like this one answered too. Imagine that.
WHY would you link to the NIST report, or at least a FAQ of it from NIST themselves? If their answer to that one question is sufficient in your mind to back you up on a point, why wouldn't the rest of the answers they provide be good enough for you as well?
You quote-mine to mislead, unlike NIST who worked to achieve their goals. NIST has nothing to do with your failed delusions on 911.
The whole quote paints the truth, you try to mislead.
What was the purpose of your quote-mine? What is your reason for the puffs? You are funny, you have no goal, no point, no conclusion, you like to quote-mine to make up your version of doubt, which in your case and 911 truth, it is lack of knowledge and the need to make up stuff.
Don't gloss over this, the "As discussed above" makes your quote-mining worse than it is. Why do you leave out 9 chapters of discussion and try to mislead.
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Didn't last to long...started at 9:52 came down at 9:59...only 7 minutes.
TJM
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Yes, mine too. Typical truther though, when in doubt, ignore.
It was ironic the truther in a video melted aluminum and had to cut out the initial pouring because the Al was orange, not silver.
What metal is this truthers?
What would the crazy claims be about 911 if it had take place at night, the worlds first fires set on multiple floors with 10,000 gallons of jet fuel, what would they make up then when the entire WTC complex was glowing from fire, and not illuminated by the sun. What insane claims would these failed skeptics fall for if 911 had taken place at night?
The thread title, "please read" as if he/she knows 911 was an inside job and she/he is here to save the world from the unknown bad guys who did 911. All of this saving to take place with hearsay, lies and fantasy.
When is the evidence coming? Never.
If I can use NIST to answer some questions, it only makes my case stronger. NIST said there is no visible evidence that material was burning. I and many others agree. I didn't know I wasn't allowed to disagree with some of it and accept some of it. Seems odd to me. I thought that's how things were usually done. Aluminum melts silver, the evidence is that any normal office material will just fall off of melted aluminum. See Steven Jones experiments.
What? I have no idea where that picture came from. If you watched the whole video...you'll see it stays orange all the way down. Even NIST says it would normally appear silvery. The implication is that it was not silver.
You quote-mine add your own commentary and try to create doubt.
This is funny stuff.
Are you debunking 911 truth thermite claims to add your own undefined nonsense? What are you doing? There was no thermite planted, there were no explosives planted, what is your claim? What is your story on this quote-mining special report you started?
NIST talks of pressure pulses 35 times in NIST NCSTAR 1-5a chapter 1-9, another 4 times in 1-5. You quote-mine NIST and make no point, except to mislead. What is your goal, your conclusions, pertaining to this pressure pulse you quote-mined? Make a point, remembering there were no explosives, or thermite used on 911.
They say could be caused by structural failure, and due to the velocity and acceleration characteristics of the puffs, there is no mention of explosives causing them. Due to physics, if you had claims of explosives you have been debunked. Darn, and your doubt sure sounded good in your own head.
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So it was hovering in the air for 7 minutes, much like Wile E. Coyote momentarily hovers in mid-air after he runs off a cliff in another unsuccessful attempt to catch the Roadrunner?
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Twoofers learned their physics at the University Of Toontown.
I watched, the stuff turns silvery. But then we are talking about hearsay from a video. If 911 was an inside job all the videos would be destroyed. All the 911 truth leaders herded up never to be seen again. But 911 truth is like the crazy guy spewing nonsense in the park, they make it up, and the only people who believe them lack knowledge.
Have you produced the hijackers who rose from the dead? That sums up your thread, you take quotes out of context and make up doubt in your own head.
You take one quote and ignore 500 pages, and make up your doubt in your head.
Silver, at :53
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmuzyWC60eE
Try to include what video you are talking about each time you post nonsense.
Do you watch the videos you post? wow.
Where did NIST say it stayed orange all the way down? What do you see at :53?
Not orange all the way down. Doubt? I doubt you pay attention, you see what you want to see. What is your point? Explosives? LOL, they don't make things melt, the blow them up at high velocities.
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So molten steel can support weight for seven minutes?
TJM
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The shot was grabbed from a version of the Luigi Cazzaniga NIST release. That version contained an added sound effect and truther who apparently made it thought he could fool us into believing the event was genuine. It was thoroughly trounced and the truther took it down. It's discussed here:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188116
In fairness, the YouTube you link to does have an excerpt of the Cazzaniga video, about three seconds of it. I wonder why.
Full clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF2YPGb-LYc
Grabbed from the Cazzaniga NIST release:
Ooooh. Shiny.
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Only appear silvery at certain temperatures. Some of it is probably molten aluminium which is why it looks like liquid, aluminium, lead etc have a low melting point and don't glow at that temperature but can glow red at higher temperatures like all metals. Truthers asserting that it doesnt glow at all in order to claim it couldn't possibly be anything by steel for that reason are simply lying. If you then mix in some other debris and what you have is a soup of molten metal and burning office materials. The metals probably did start turning silvery on its way down, but we're not saying it was 100% aluminium and neither is NIST. Its mostly just sparks flying around. Since we know even burning wood will look like molten metal and would have been in the towers along with a variety of other similar burning materials, I fail to see how that is a less likely situation.
The simplest explanation is usually the correct one, right? I don't see why its logical to introduce a massive conspiracy when there's a perfectly understandable and acceptable explanation for what you're seeing.
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Only interesting if you ignore reality....if you don't then it is the same old same old myths being peddled by a charlatan troofer