Reasonable doubt...All truthers(and whoever esle) please read

tmd2_1 said:
The first part asked and answered.
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Your answer is wrong. You tried to shift th burden of proof, it doesn't work like that. You're making the claim, you prove it.

tmd2_1 said:
The second. I'm well aware of what you guys are up to..I would say something...it goes on and on and on...to no real end. I'll just say it contradicts newton's law of physics. I don't want to get into it...I know where it will lead...just watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tejFUDlV81w&feature=relmfu
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I'm not watching some stupid truther youtue video. Please tell us which laws of physics were violated on 9/11, lots of truthers claim that however not a single one has been able to make a case for it. Maybe you'll be the first!
 
tmd2_1 said:
In correct..burden of proof is always on the prosecution. They have to prove the case, I only have to cast doubt on it...i think it's clearly been done.
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No,that won't work. Anyone can cast doubt. Evidence is the thing what evidence do you have about the presence of thermite? Real evidence,not links to youtube videos made by lobotomy patients.
 
WildCat said:
Your answer is wrong. You tried to shift th burden of proof, it doesn't work like that. You're making the claim, you prove it.


I'm not watching some stupid truther youtue video. Please tell us which laws of physics were violated on 9/11, lots of truthers claim that however not a single one has been able to make a case for it. Maybe you'll be the first!
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I didn't try to do anything the burden of proof is always on the prosecution. I will not address this again.

I said I don't want to get into it...watch the video. I will not address this again either.
 
tmd2_1 said:
This is where your wrong again. I don't have to prove another theory to show the official story is not true or cast serious doubts on it. As I said in the OP...a man is charged with murder, I can show he was else where at the time, he could not have committed the murder. Same thing applies here. I know the tricks you guys use...getting someone to say a theory spend hours and hours going at it..to the stupidest level of detail...keeping focus away from the holes in the official story.
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Most of these "holes" are either in your mind, or irrelevant. It's not my problem you don't realize that.

It's also not my problem that you for some strange reason think that you enter this debate in a position of majority. You do not. Your cult's opinion is the abject minority opinion. You are relegated to arguing your position on internet forums and youtube for a reason; you are just a tiny group of people who believe something that the vast majority of people on Earth disagree with, no different than if somebody believed the Earth was flat, or the sun revolved around the Earth.

I don't need to convince you of anything; your continued irrelevance is my final victory.
 
tmd2_1 said:
I didn't try to do anything the burden of proof is always on the prosecution. I will not address this again.
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Your refusal to address it doesn't change the fact you are wrong about the burden of proof. YOU ARE THE PROSECUTION.
 
tmd2_1 said:
I didn't try to do anything the burden of proof is always on the prosecution. I will not address this again.
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This is science, not a prosecution. In science, you have to formulate a better theory than the existing one. Can you do that? So far the evidence says "no, not even close".

tmd2_1 said:
I said I don't want to get into it...watch the video. I will not address this again either.
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Of course you don't want to get into that because physics is way over your head and you'll look even more foolish arguing physics than you do arguing thermite.
 
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tmd2_1 said:
You'd have to take that up with them. I don't know...simply saying IF there was...it could have been unreacted thermite.
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Except it can't be even if thermite had brought down the towers. You do understand that in the collapse this thermite would have been spread all over the place. It would not have been concentrated in any place capable of producing the liquid iron that you claim.

It's that simple but you can't work it out.

Propose a theory that both fits your suggestions of small amounts of thermite to destroy columns and enormous amounts of thermite required fro liquid iron in the rubble pile.
 
Sunstealer said:
Except it can't be even if thermite had brought down the towers. You do understand that in the collapse this thermite would have been spread all over the place. It would not have been concentrated in any place capable of producing the liquid iron that you claim.

It's that simple but you can't work it out.

Propose a theory that both fits your suggestions of small amounts of thermite to destroy columns and enormous amounts of thermite required fro liquid iron in the rubble pile.
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Last I'll say..let me know when you have experiments (or anything really) proving anything you say, or anything others say is false...I'll be glad to see them
 
tmd2_1 said:
He uses exact WTC replicas.
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Just like these?

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tmd2_1 said:
Last I'll say..let me know when you have experiments (or anything really) proving anything you say, or anything others say is false...I'll be glad to see them
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Dodge noted. You aren't too good at answering direct questions are you?
 
tmd2_1 said:
In correct..burden of proof is always on the prosecution. They have to prove the case, I only have to cast doubt on it...i think it's clearly been done.
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Just out of curiosity, why are you trying to defend mass murdering scumbags who's stated aim is the destruction of Western Secular civilization as we know it to make room for a religiously intolerant fascist police state?
 
tmd2_1 said:
Last I'll say..let me know when you have experiments (or anything really) proving anything you say, or anything others say is false...I'll be glad to see them
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Question, tmd: Do you believe that a chemical reaction can be sketched out on paper? That is, do you believe that one can prove that thousands of pounds of thermite are required to melt hundreds of pounds of steel without actually doing it in real life?
 
tmd2_1 said:
I didn't try to do anything the burden of proof is always on the prosecution. I will not address this again.

I said I don't want to get into it...watch the video. I will not address this again either.
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Why are all truthers so cowardly? Do you have any real evidence of your absurd claims? How old are you,your behaviour is very childish.
 
tmd2_1 said:
yeah i present people who have done experiments, you just sit there right a couple of words..and that's the way it is???
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No,you just link to videos made by people with IQs in the low seventies. Present some evidence in words, or are truthers inacapable of thinking for themselves? I thought you had left after your famous victory. Why are you still here?
 
uke2se said:
Question, tmd: Do you believe that a chemical reaction can be sketched out on paper? That is, do you believe that one can prove that thousands of pounds of thermite are required to melt hundreds of pounds of steel without actually doing it in real life?
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To "prove" it you bet. Look at the design of aircraft...lots of computer modeling/theories...etc...etc...the flight test it...then it doesn't happen the way they thought it would...they go back made adjustments do it again
 
tmd2_1 said:
The first part asked and answered.
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I must have missed that part where you expound upon your theory that better explains all aspects of the events of Sept 11/01 such as what happened to 4 aircraft and the persons on board.
The second. I'm well aware of what you guys are up to..I would say something...it goes on and on and on...to no real end.
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What might we be 'up to"?
I you refer to the fact that when you post here you get counter arguements from several posters at once. Yes, that is going to occur here and you should have known that coming in. I certainly know for a fact that when I was on the LC and PfT forums that my posts were immediatly jumped on by several posters. If jumping-on a conspiracist is what we are 'up to' then its equally a factor on sites more aligned with your beliefs too.
When you post on a forum or I post on a forum, you and I are implicitly inviting comment from other posters and if you or I post something that is going to ellicit an arguementative comment then its going to come from all who will disagree. End of story, no subterfuge or organized gang involved.

I'll just say it contradicts newton's law of physics. I don't want to get into it...I know where it will lead...
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What "it" do you refer to, and how does it violate Newton's laws?

just watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tejFUDlV81w&feature=relmfu
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I have missed several pages of this thread now and yet I have already watched 5 or 6 videos that you have commanded us to view.
<<sighs>> ok but in the future it would be best if you give a short summary of what we will be seeing and how its relevent to the present discussion.
 
tmd2_1 said:
To "prove" it you bet. Look at the design of aircraft...lots of computer modeling/theories...etc...etc...the flight test it...then it doesn't happen the way they thought it would...they go back made adjustments do it again
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I wasn't talking about aircraft. I was talking about basic chemistry. Do you think basic chemistry can be sketched out on paper and trusted without the need for experiment to prove something as basic as thousands of pounds of thermite required to melt hundreds of pounds of steel?
 
uke2se said:
I wasn't talking about aircraft. I was talking about basic chemistry. Do you think basic chemistry can be sketched out on paper and trusted without the need for experiment to prove something as basic as thousands of pounds of thermite required to melt hundreds of pounds of steel?
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Well that's what I'm saying...getting all that thermite and steel is not really feasible, but you can have scaled down models. Look at Cole's videos he melts steel with only a few pounds
 
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