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Reasonable doubt...All truthers(and whoever esle) please read

Most of the previous quotes are complete nonsense (as yours are as well) but I figured with you being a big smart engineer and all I would address it. First of all you no absolutely nothing...not a thing of my qualifications...not one thing...keep that in mind. Secondly where is that video "debunking" Cole? As I said it should be no problem for somewhat of your genies, and given all the science is on your side. One little video is all I ask. Just one? Until then...until you prove anything by experiment...you have no basis to talk of anything. I know I get to you...and I know it is because I am right. Take a look at these two videos...and tell me they look anything like what's experienced at WTC. We'll just say the south tower, clearly something Molten was coming out of that before it collapses. You see maybe you can do what the one guy did (quite easily to I might add) and prove something with experiment. Not just go on and on about how smart you think you are, and how dumb others are. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30OVAvg1aGQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XVUbjgQ4ik
I'm curious why you insist on a video. Does a video carry more weight for you? Are you incapable of absorbing information unless it's in video format?
 
From the 9/11 video we can conclude that something orangish was falling out of the building, but nothing else. For all we know from that clip it could be flaming carpet, or molten lead carrying flaming carpet, or anything.

Concluding that the falling stuff is evidence of therm*te is two different wrong conclusions, one drawn from the other, with the second wrong conclusion supposedly proving the first that's drawn from the second.

Your second video, f'rinstance, zooms menacingly on the famous angled-cut column image, as if that's some kind of evidence of something, usually therm*te. I've done rather detailed analysis of that specific image using the best resolution I could find and I can clearly identify that it was cut using an undersized torch for the thickness of metal, and that the user changed position several times.

Listen I like you, you seem like a reasonably guy, and if that picture is, I have a tremendous amount of respect soldiers. It's been pretty much agreed upon that, that is molten metal...that guy is showing what aluminum looks like at the temperatures the fires got to. Nothing like what we see there. AS far as the column..I'm not sure maybe I copied the wrong link..I didn't mean to send you anything about a column. Just to show what aluminum looks like. Take a look around...really do...look at what most of the people here say, it's like dealing with little children. Just yesterday someone said when someone says go look at a youtube video..it is like saying pull my finger..and lot's of people thought that was funny. Whether you think I'm wrong or right...do you really want to associate with people who act like that when it comes to a subject like this?
 
First of all you no absolutely nothing...not a thing of my qualifications...not one thing...keep that in mind.

I am willing to be you have at most a high school education. Maybe an associates from an unknown community college.

Secondly where is that video "debunking" Cole? As I said it should be no problem for somewhat of your genies, and given all the science is on your side. One little video is all I ask. Just one? Until then...until you prove anything by experiment...you have no basis to talk of anything.
Aren't you the same guy who keeps deferring to youtube videos of guys int heir kitchen?

[quoteI know I get to you...and I know it is because I am right.[/quote]
Non sequitur. A child asking "Why? Why? Why?" can get to people. It doesn't make the child right. But I can see based on your other nonsensical points how you would make that assumption.

Take a look at these two videos...and tell me they look anything like what's experienced at WTC. We'll just say the south tower, clearly something Molten was coming out of that before it collapses. You see maybe you can do what the one guy did (quite easily to I might add) and prove something with experiment. Not just go on and on about how smart you think you are, and how dumb others are. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30OVAvg1aGQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XVUbjgQ4ik

Man I love intellectual narcissists. We have already covered the properties of aluminum and how it can glow orange. We have also covered how molten metals or ogther materials glowing orange are common in fires. We have also covered how you have yet to provide 1 shred of evidence for what you believe is steel in the pictures you posted, let alone molten. We have also covered how steel can bend even when not molten. In fact if steel is molten it ceases to bend because liquids do not bend. God I hope you don' t direct people you know in real life to these threads. All that is left is you peddling BS youtube videos which you call "research", meanwhile all the real sources on metallurgy & fire sciecnce wholly say you're wrong. Sadly this is the downside to the internet, that stupid people will find other stupid people to support their stupid beleifs
 
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I'm curious why you insist on a video. Does a video carry more weight for you? Are you incapable of absorbing information unless it's in video format?

Visual evidence is the best way in my opinion. The people here should try focusing on what's in the video instead of whether it is a video or not. Pictures don't lie (I mean assuming they aren't altered which I have no reason to believe they were) words on a paper can be manipulated many different ways.
 
Visual evidence is the best way in my opinion. The people here should try focusing on what's in the video instead of whether it is a video or not. Pictures don't lie (I mean assuming they aren't altered which I have no reason to believe they were) words on a paper can be manipulated many different ways.

No math then,or do you incorporate calculations into your theory?
 
Visual evidence is the best way in my opinion. The people here should try focusing on what's in the video instead of whether it is a video or not. Pictures don't lie (I mean assuming they aren't altered which I have no reason to believe they were) words on a paper can be manipulated many different ways.

If I were to link to every 'facepalm' image on the internet, it still wouldn't be enough.
 
Has tmd2_1 explained how he thinks thermite can sustain steel melting temperatures for weeks?

Has tmd2_1 been alterted to what a landfill fire is?

Has tmd2_1 explained why a structrual engineer is better qualfied than a veteran firefighter in what metals melt in a fire?


he thinks it was unburned thermite lurking in the debris pile that cooked up every now and then. How none was found as the debris was cleaned up is unexplained as is how there are no residues from that which supposedly burned.:rolleyes:

yes, I linked him to landfill fires

yes, that obvious truth was also repeatedly made to him.
 
That molten whateveritis video is proof of the "official story" if you ask me.

The floor sagged, causing whatever was pooling on it to come out the hole in the side of the building. If only we knew what was located on that floor, we could come to some determination of what it could be.


Huh?
That's where the ALUMINUM airplane came to rest?
And a giant UPS system (no, not a delivery truck).

tmd - WHY isn't Aluminum and Lead at the very least a satisfactory alternative to it being molten steel?
TONS of lead and aluminum were right there. As a matter of fact, that particular floor had to be reinforced to hold the extra weight of the UPS system.


(It stands for Uninterruptable Power Supply, and in a building THAT big? I can't even imagine how that looked. Probably pretty cool.)
 
Visual evidence is the best way in my opinion. The people here should try focusing on what's in the video instead of whether it is a video or not. Pictures don't lie (I mean assuming they aren't altered which I have no reason to believe they were) words on a paper can be manipulated many different ways.

That is the best formulation of ignorance that I have ever seen. So Newton was wasting his time when he wrote down his laws of motion? Einstein should have made silent movies? What a stupid point. No wonder you are a truther.
 
I am willing to be you have at most a high school education. Maybe an associates from an unknown community college.


Aren't you the same guy who keeps deferring to youtube videos of guys int heir kitchen?

[quoteI know I get to you...and I know it is because I am right.
Non sequitur. A child asking "Why? Why? Why?" can get to people. It doesn't make the child right. But I can see based on your other nonsensical points how you would make that assumption.



Man I love intellectual narcissists. We have already covered the properties of aluminum and how it can glow orange. We have also covered how molten metals are common in fires. We have also covered how you have yet to provide 1 shred of evidence for what you believe is steel in the pictures you posted, let alone molten. We have also covered how steel can bend even when not molten. In fact if steel is molten it ceases to bend because liquids do not bend. God I hope you don' t direct people you know in real life to these threads.[/QUOTE]

This thread has been nothing but a total victory. Think about the molten steel was only one point of many in the initial post. And i said possibly. All this dialogue has done is to reinforce that there probably was molten steel. People resorting to nothing more then personal attacks, while I stick to the evidence, and experiments. In essence if you disagree with me or the people in the videos or to any think I have linked...go out and prove us wrong. Anyone can sit here and write anything.
 
Visual evidence is the best way in my opinion. The people here should try focusing on what's in the video instead of whether it is a video or not. Pictures don't lie (I mean assuming they aren't altered which I have no reason to believe they were) words on a paper can be manipulated many different ways.
Video presentations can be edited and manipulated in many different ways as well. Video presentations can and have lied.
 
Listen I like you, you seem like a reasonably guy, and if that picture is, I have a tremendous amount of respect soldiers. It's been pretty much agreed upon that, that is molten metal..


He said.... "molten lead carrying flaming carpet"

Why don't you bother reading anything properly?

You also seem to think there exists only two possible metals molten metal could be, steel or aluminum. But there is also copper, brass, tin, lead etc.


Whether you think I'm wrong or right...do you really want to associate with people who act like that when it comes to a subject like this?

Why do you want to associate with people that can demonstrably lie so easily its second nature and that have no idea how anything works?

Now I asked you ages ago now, if we assume for the sake of argument it is molten steel how did thermite keep steel molten for weeks? In fact even ignoing thermite, how do you propsoe thats ever possible in this situation?
 
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If I were to link to every 'facepalm' image on the internet, it still wouldn't be enough.

True. That is about the stupidest thing that I have ever read here and that is in the face of some very stiff competition.
 
Visual evidence is the best way in my opinion. The people here should try focusing on what's in the video instead of whether it is a video or not. Pictures don't lie (I mean assuming they aren't altered which I have no reason to believe they were) words on a paper can be manipulated many different ways.

How unbelievably stupid & ignorant. I feel great pitty for those of us who made an honest attempt to bring some reason & sanity to this thread.
 
Visual evidence is the best way in my opinion.

Sorry but as we quickly discovered your opinion isn't worth very much as its wholly based on your armchair deductions & complete ignorance to science & logic. Here is a question truthers invariably dodge when it comes to relying on direct visual observation as a scientific tool. I go outside and film the Sun & Moon moving across the sky, based on the visual we can conclude that both the Sun & Moon revolve around the Earth. So will you be concluding the Sun & Moon rotate around the Earth based on the best "visual evidence"?

Pictures don't lie (I mean assuming they aren't altered which I have no reason to believe they were) .

Right...
 
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Visual evidence is the best way in my opinion. The people here should try focusing on what's in the video instead of whether it is a video or not. Pictures don't lie (I mean assuming they aren't altered which I have no reason to believe they were) words on a paper can be manipulated many different ways.
Yes they do.

http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/

I can show you hundreds of images that look like something they are not.
 

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