WTC dust

[Kid Eager]

what are wakes?

what you have when you finish your sleeps....

 

[Dash80]

Wakes are "left behind"? What do you mean by this? Haven't you ever been in a boat that stopped? The wake doesn't stop because the boat stops. The wake doesn't move up to the edge of where the boat stops and itself stops.

The 19 Arab conspiracy theory has got you all confused about the physical universe. Sad story.

*facepalm*
So you're trying to tell us the water follows the boat? LOL! Seriously, look up "wake turbulence" Oh no wait, you can't because you're allergic to research!

I understand your Phd is biological... Biomedical, is that correct?
Shouldn't you be out there researching cancer or AIDS treatments? That would help a lot of people, but no... You come here spewing crap all over this forum!

It is YOU who has demonstrated a complete lack of knowledge of physics, high-rise construction and aerodynamics. Your ego is wider than the brooklyn bridge and you ignore everything we present you with, so why are you even here Dusty? What were you expecting from a SKEPTICS forum?

Look, I'm not an expert in any of the above examples you fail at. However, I take note of what qualified people on this forum say, and I LOOK THINGS UP MYSELF. If I don't know how something works, I ask others or find the answer myself. You don't do this, you insist you are right, no matter what anyone else says. Considering all that, who comes out looking stupid... Me or you?

Anneliese.

 

[WTC Dust]

The wake is located behind the craft. It is due to the drag of an airplane on the air. The wake isn't located ahead of the craft.

What I'm pointing out is that there is no good evidence of a wake in the fumes coming from WTC 1 and the explosions from WTC 2 at 9:03AM
on September 11.

None of you can point to evidence of a wake, so you change the subject
to a discussion of how big a wake would be and whether or not the air is
"pulled" behind the airplane, when that is not what I'm saying.

I'm saying that wakes exist and that there is no evidence of a wake in any
of the 9/11 videos of 9:03AM.

You apparently have no idea what a wake is.

Hint: nothing is being "pulled behind".

 

[DC]

what you have when you finish your sleeps....

aah morning glory

 

[WTC Dust]

WTC Dust, as far as I can tell no one posting in this thread agrees with you that a plane drags a column of air around with it.

Is there any authority/expert out there in the way of an aerospace engineer, physicist, etc. who you would believe if they were to tell you that, indeed, you are incorrect in your claims that boats and planes drag columns of water or air around behind them?

Or has your position as "best 9/11 researcher" placed you above all others in your knowledge of these various and diverse fields?

You might have to do a little bit of learning that doesn't depend on me. Just figure it out.

 

[WTC Dust]

WTC Dust, as far as I can tell no one posting in this thread agrees with you that a plane drags a column of air around with it.

Is there any authority/expert out there in the way of an aerospace engineer, physicist, etc. who you would believe if they were to tell you that, indeed, you are incorrect in your claims that boats and planes drag columns of water or air around behind them?

Or has your position as "best 9/11 researcher" placed you above all others in your knowledge of these various and diverse fields?

You might have to do a little bit of learning that doesn't depend on me. Just figure it out. Hint: Opposite and equal reactions apply here. You all know about the drag that air puts on a plane. What you may not be "getting" is that the plane exerts exactly and precisely the same drag force on the air, only in the direction of flight.

 

[Porkpie Hat]

With respect to 9/11, I went to Ground Zero less than 3 days after the attacks, searching for samples. And all the people I've met since then whose homes got invaded by the dust or who survived the dust cloud, I ask them if they saved any of the dust. Every single time, they said no. They said they wanted to get rid of it, took showers, threw away their clothes, and in some cases they never went back to their apartments once they escaped!

You're seriously claiming that 3 days after the attacks no dust existed around ground zero?

Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds?

 

[The Big Dog]

I'm asking you to tell me specifically what the evidence is, and you seem hesitant to do this for some reason.


Just like I wanted you to circle what you say is plane debris on a jpeg taken from a screen shot.

So we can be sure that we are talking about the same thing.

If you tell me in words what evidence I'm supposed to look for, I might just click.

Well I do declare that you think you are being clever! How, interesting.

I've said it 40 times, and I'll say it 400 more if you intend to persist in this charade, Dusty. The evidence that you are supposed "to look for" is the FAA audio tape from Air traffic Control of the hijacking of flight 93.

I'm sorry, I cannot say it any more clearly than that.

It is much less than 5 minutes long, in fact you have spent much more than five minutes dodging the evidence in the most obvious and quite frankly ridiculous way possible.

Dusty, have you listened to the FAA tape from Air Traffic Control of the hijacking of flight 93?

 

[WildCat]

Well I do declare that you think you are being clever! How, interesting.

I've said it 40 times, and I'll say it 400 more if you intend to persist in this charade, Dusty. The evidence that you are supposed to look for is the FAA audio tape from Air traffic Control of the hijacking of flight 93.

I'm sorry, I cannot say it any more clearly than that.

It is much less than 5 minutes long, in fact you have spent much more than five minutes dodging the evidence in the most obvious and quite frankly ridiculous way possible.

Facts, evidence, the scientific method, peer-review, math... these things are b-o-r-i-n-g!

Who needs those when you have delusions and fantasies?

 

[NoahFence]

 

[Dash80]

You're seriously claiming that 3 days after the attacks no dust existed around ground zero?

Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds?

It's not just ridiculous, it's also a blatant *********** LIE. 3 days after the attacks, my sister and I had to wade ankle-deep through the dust just to reach her apartment building. I find it pretty hilarious that Dusty claims she found no dust 3 days after, we've already seen how "good" she is at researching and collecting data. It's hardly surprising really.

 

[Porkpie Hat]

Some steel survived the attacks relatively intact. Much of it is strangely damaged, like in the image you provided.

What I'm telling you is that most of the buildings were turned into foamy dust. Steel turned into foam. Not all of the steel, but yes, steel turned into foam.

Can you at least attempt to qualify your claim that the steel damage is strange?

BTW, this is precisely why there's nothing of your "theory" to debunk, because it's nothing but a series of disjointed empty claims. It's kinda like asking someone to debunk peanut butter.

 

[Porkpie Hat]

It's not just ridiculous, it's also a blatant *********** LIE. 3 days after the attacks, my sister and I had to wade ankle-deep through the dust just to reach her apartment building. I find it pretty hilarious that Dusty claims she found no dust 3 days after, we've already seen how "good" she is at researching and collecting data. It's hardly surprising really.

Statements like that pretty much expose her as a phony.

One has to wonder what a person gets out of mocking the deaths of 3000 innocent victims?

 

[Porkpie Hat]

The wake is located behind the craft. It is due to the drag of an airplane on the air. The wake isn't located ahead of the craft.

What I'm pointing out is that there is no good evidence of a wake in the fumes coming from WTC 1 and the explosions from WTC 2 at 9:03AM
on September 11.

None of you can point to evidence of a wake, so you change the subject
to a discussion of how big a wake would be and whether or not the air is
"pulled" behind the airplane, when that is not what I'm saying.

I'm saying that wakes exist and that there is no evidence of a wake in any
of the 9/11 videos of 9:03AM.

And yet you can't show examples of what you'd expect to see in the plane impact videos by referencing the bullet impact videos you linked to a few days back.

Therefore the only conclusion possible is that the bullet impact videos were also fake and the question remains, why did you post these fake bullet impact videos?

 

[Dash80]

Statements like that pretty much expose her as a phony.

One has to wonder what a person gets out of mocking the deaths of 3000 innocent victims?

I really wish I knew, it's hard for me to understand the mindset of such disrespectful kooks. An attention thing maybe, especially our neon-haired friend Dusty. Everything she's posted screams "HEY LOOK AT ME, GIVE ME ATTENTION!"

She's getting the attention she craves here, we really shouldn't feed her but it's hard to resist.

 

[paperboy05]

You have mentioned an amazing thing, that I've been studying the WTC dust for so long and end up finding some 25 feet from my kitchen.

It's quite amazing you can verify that based solely on pictures. Was there a certificate of authenticity 30 feet from your kitchen?

8+ years passed.

A hell of a lot of time to disturb/contaminate the piles of dirt.

Only a 9/11 researcher would look at that "dirt pile" and know that it was WTC dust, and most 9/11 researchers would have failed, too, because the theories they are working on do not produce this type of dust.

What type of dust is that, and what substantiation do you have that those theories wouldn't produce that type of dust?

 

[beren]

]
I saw the dust up on second story ledges and wished I could reach it.

8 years.
And you never once thought to use a ladder?
Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

I saw what the dust looks like when it was deposited on concrete ledges, and that led me to recognize what I was seeing in a way that someone who hadn't prepared themselves perhaps would not have.

That right there sounds a LOT like confirmation bias. 8 years desperate to find something. You see something. You are SURE it is what you want. How have you verified it. One simple way would be to verify that it has the same makeup as other, known samples. Have you used a mass spec on it?

Only a 9/11 researcher would look at that "dirt pile" and know that it was WTC dust,

I agree, but I would change know to "know."

Anyone who thinks explosives destroyed the WTC would have failed to recognize the dust for what it was.

Aah yes. You only recognized it because it fit your theory. That is a very telling mindset you have there.

Me finding the dust all those years later is testimony to my extreme patience and determination.

OK. If you say so.

 

[paperboy05]

What I'm pointing out is that there is no good evidence of a wake in the fumes coming from WTC 1 and the explosions from WTC 2 at 9:03AM on September 11.

Can you explain what you think one should see in terms of a "wake" and can you also provide evidence of this happening in some other location?

None of you can point to evidence of a wake, so you change the subject to a discussion of how big a wake would be

Discussing the specifics of this supposed wake goes a long way in explicitly showing you there is a wake.

I'm saying that wakes exist and that there is no evidence of a wake in any of the 9/11 videos of 9:03AM.

How should this "wake" be acting if there was one on 9/11 and what substantiation do you have to show it should have acted this way?

 

[Dash80]

I take it that you want me to click on something? And if I click on it, I will hear a recording? Is this true?

If is it true, what evidence does this recording contain? How authentic is this recording? Are there any really good reasons to value this recording above all the other recordings out there?

What you need to know is that the 19 Arab conspiracy theory was the main conspiracy out there for a long time. I know the story. I haven't read every single thing out there written on it or listened to every single audio recording that is out there, but I do know all about the 19 Arab conspiracy theory.

I want you to tell me what I'm going to experience if I fulfill your desires and clicky clicky. Can you do this? Thanks.

Ok so you HAVE seen evidence of hijackings, but you dismiss it anyway? Ok fair enough you think it's all fabricated, you claim to doubt it's authenticity. Well Dusty, it works both ways. We doubt your authenticity and think you're pretty much fabricating stuff, you expect us to believe you but using your own logic... give us one reason why we should.

 

[sylvan8798]

All you have to know is that wakes exist, and they follow every single airplane in flight.

All I have to know?

All I have to know?

I have a PhD too, Dusty - in Physics. And a Bachelor's in Engineering. Condescension will get you nowhere. You can't explain how this supposed phenomenon works, and now you are trying to weasel by hand-waving it off.

As I understand it, you were not in NYC on the day of the attacks. Perhaps the psychological guilt of not having witnessed the attack on the city you were living in with your own eyes, and the helplessness of not being able to help its citizens, makes you want to deny that it actually happened. Rewriting the story into your own narrative, which you so "amazingly" discovered, makes you some kind of 9/11 hero in your own mind, instead of someone who was not even there.

ETA: Wow, this is my 1111 post. Eleventy, eleven!!!11!!