Merged General Holocaust denial discussion thread

[Gene Alley]

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Okay, the percentage of *provably* Jewish members of any of the agreed groups being 5% or less will represent your having lost the bet, yes? You seem to have neglected the proof, and your cited article contains several mistakes:

1)Breyer is not a member of the SCOTUS.
2)Paramount Pictures was not agreed upon.

3)Warner Bros. != Time Warner.

As to the rest, to which synagogue do they belong? Or what Jewish school did they attend? Or have you reliable quotes offering a self-identification as Jewish?

To repeat, to give a fair sampling, I would include the CEOs of The New York Times, the Tribune Group, the Wall Street Journal, Belo, Cablevision and Clear Channel to round out the MM entry.

Also, as an additional group the Executive branch of the US Government (the President, the Vice President, and the heads of the Executive Office of the President, the Department of Agriculture, the Department of Commerce, the Department of Defense, the Department of Education, the Department of Energy, the Department of Health and Human Services, the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Housing and Urban Development, the Department of the Interior, the Department of Justice, the Department of Labor, the Department of State, the Department of Transportation, the Department of the Treasury and the Department of Veterans Affairs) and the Governors of all 50 States, giving us 71 additional entities who actually *run* the country.

I have only lost some time pointing out your idiocy, so we will rely on your bet as offered: no, I will not donate to C(h)ODOH. The "h" is for "hardly".

The ball is in your court.
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First of all the bet I proposed says $500 on each proposition. This is not a three proposition parlay which would pay 6-1. Nice try. Also, you can not just bring up new propositions that I never mentioned and throw them in there like your little "executive branch" deal, deal or Governors, Treasury, Veterans affairs etc. That's not how it works in gambling. Pretty sneaky, but no go. I like to decide what I want to bet on, thank you. So at this point, you have definitely lost two, so you owe me a grand, and I'll prove the rest as soon as I get payed for the first two.

1)Breyer, Ginsberg, and Kagen SCOTUS=33%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_United_States_Supreme_Court_justices

List of Jewish United States Supreme Court Justices

Ruth Bader Ginsburg NY 1933– 1993–present — — Clinton Currently serving

Breyer, StephenStephen Breyer MA 1938– 1994–present — — Clinton Currently serving

Kagan, ElenaElena Kagan NY 1960– 2010–present — — Obama Currently serving

2)Benjamin Shalom Bernanke, Sarah Bloom Raskin, Janet Yellin=60%

3)Do you really believe that less than 5% of CEOs in major media corporations are Jewish? If so, you are one of the only people in the world who does.

Since when is Breyer not a member of SCOTUS? You got some inside info on that one that nobody else has been apprised of? Please share it.

 

[LemmyCaution]

Since YOU ASKED. They start wars against Israel's enemies that get American soldiers killed.

Only Jews who are successful start wars? MacNamara, a Jew? LBJ, Jewish? Nixon, a Jew? But please tell us how Jews on the Federal Reserve Board, Jewish CEOs, and Jewish Supreme Court justices start wars with Israel's enemies . . .

 

[LemmyCaution]

1)Your biased opinion. Did you get banned from CODOH?

2)I never said that "the Jews run EVERYTHING". Those are your words.

You did say that Jews "control us." Explain.

 

[LemmyCaution]

The victims of WWII as in most wars were the active participants who were killed and maimed as a result of it, along with those innocent civillians who perished or suffered at the hands of these huge military machines in the USSR, Germany, USA, UK, Japan and Italy. No certain ethnic or religious group has an exclusive claim on victimhood.

The victors as usual, were the bankers who financed the carnage at usury rates, then cleaned up in the aftermath and the war profiteers who had a field day. Some things never change.

So much is wrong with this post. Gene, please tell us how many civilians versus military participants were killed during WWII.

Of course, no ethnic or religious or other group has an exclusive claim on suffering during WWII. Your statement is both a truism and a strawman. The Germans targeted Jews, as Jews, and killed a very high percentage of European Jews, as well as virtually destroying Jewish life and culture in its major European centers. Does this fact mean that Zigeuner didn't suffer at the hands of the Nazis? No. Or that the German people, misled into disaster, didn't suffer because of the Nazis? No. Or that over half the nearly 6 million Soviets taken prisoner by the Germans didn't die from hunger, shooting, or disease? No.

As for you bankers, wild claim - what's the substantiation?

 

[Gene Alley]

You did say that Jews "control us." Explain.

I did not say "Jews control us". That is a fabrication. I said that a major function of the main stream media was to control the masses. Personally, I don't put any stock in what is reported by the main stream media, so I am beyond it's reach.

 

[LemmyCaution]

Again, so what? This alleged overrepresentation means nothing in and of itself unless you are implying some sort of conspiracy angle.

Exactly. These numbers games prove something only to people who have biases to begin with. Notice how Gene cherrypicks a "sample" instead of doing a systematic and comprehensive study - a sample designed to yield a specific result. Leaving this little issue aside. so what? If Gene and Clayton cannot show both how this supposedly cultish and intertwined group works together and what ends they work to secure, the numbers don't prove control. They might indicate comparative advantage or certain cases of the operation of the law of increasing returns or demographic lumpiness - but not "control" over "us." Not without demonstrating the mechanisms and goals of this supposed control.

 

[Corsair 115]

Any monopoly of the media is bad.

An alleged slight overrepresentation is not a monopoly. Or at least, it isn't to anyone with the ability to think.

 

[LemmyCaution]

I did not say "Jews control us". That is a fabrication. I said that a major function of the main stream media was to control the masses. Personally, I don't put any stock in what is reported by the main stream media, so I am beyond it's reach.

Is that so?

Leaving aside that you said Jews run the media which in turn, well, . . . here is the exchange:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7435126&postcount=4842

Originally Posted by Gene Alley
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/...4676183.column

Excerpt:

have never been so upset by a poll in my life. Only 22% of Americans now believe "the movie and television industries are pretty much run by Jews," down from nearly 50% in 1964. The Anti-Defamation League, which released the poll results last month, sees in these numbers a victory against stereotyping. Actually, it just shows how dumb America has gotten. Jews totally run Hollywood.

How deeply Jewish is Hollywood? When the studio chiefs took out a full-page ad in the Los Angeles Times a few weeks ago to demand that the Screen Actors Guild settle its contract, the open letter was signed by: News Corp. President Peter Chernin (Jewish), Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Jewish), Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger (Jewish), Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (surprise, Dutch Jew), Warner Bros. Chairman Barry Meyer (Jewish), CBS Corp. Chief Executive Leslie Moonves (so Jewish his great uncle was the first prime minister of Israel), MGM Chairman Harry Sloan (Jewish) and NBC Universal Chief Executive Jeff Zucker (mega-Jewish). If either of the Weinstein brothers had signed, this group would have not only the power to shut down all film production but to form a minyan with enough Fiji water on hand to fill a mikvah.

Joel Stein

Why is that so deep a problem for you? Do you feel they are trying to convert us all? LOL

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7435205&postcount=4845

Originally Posted by Hans
Why is that so deep a problem for you? Do you feel they are trying to convert us all? LOL

Not to convert us, but to control us with a constant stream of mezmorizing BS.

(So it is your contention that when Hans asked if "they" are trying to convert us, and you answered as below, that he and you meant the media?)

I didn't fabricate anything. You said that the Jewish run media are trying to control us with a constant stream of something that is not a word.

 

[TSR]

First of all the bet I proposed says $500 on each proposition. This is not a three proposition parlay which would pay 6-1.

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Nor did I propose such a 'parlay'.
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Nice try.

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No, your running away from the matter at hand, that being agreeing upon the terms of the bet, was not a nice try.
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Also, you can not just bring up new propositions that I never mentioned and throw them in there like your little "executive branch" deal, deal or Governors, Treasury, Veterans affairs etc.

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You mean like your inclusion of Paramount Pictures and Warner Bros.?

What objections do you have (other than the obvious) to my additions to the MM category?

And since your whole point, such as it is, is that the Jews 'control us', what objections do you have (other than the obvious) to my addition of those people who actually run the country?
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That's not how it works in gambling. Pretty sneaky, but no go. I like to decide what I want to bet on, thank you. So at this point, you have definitely lost two, so you owe me a grand, and I'll prove the rest as soon as I get payed for the first two.

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I have definitely *not* lost two, since you have offered no *proof* of the Jewishness of any of these people.

I owe you nothing until the bet is agreed upon, and such proof is offered. Such agreement (including the little matter of $1500 being escrowed, since I do not believe that without such you will not renege) should precede your lame attempts at proving any of the people you complain of is Jewish.
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1)Breyer, Ginsberg, and Kagen SCOTUS=33%

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No proof that any of these people is Jewish has been offered.
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2)Benjamin Shalom Bernanke, Sarah Bloom Raskin, Janet Yellin=60%

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No proof that any of these people is Jewish has been offered.
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3)Do you really believe that less than 5% of CEOs in major media corporations are Jewish? If so, you are one of the only people in the world who does.

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Of course, that "only" happens to comprise the majority.

What objections do you have (other than the obvious) to my additions to the MM category?

And once again, I note that no proof that any of these people is Jewish has been offered.
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Since when is Breyer not a member of SCOTUS? You got some inside info on that one that nobody else has been apprised of? Please share it.

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My bad. JREF went down here in the middle of my composing that post, and I was working from memory. It was Ginsburg I was objecting to, as in Douglas H. Ginsburg whose nom was withdrawn over his previous use of marijuana.

My apologies, but you *did* originally specify GinsbUrg, not GinsbErg.

Now, shall we agree on the bet, after which you can begin offering proof that any of these people is Jewish?
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[Gene Alley]

So much is wrong with this post. Gene, please tell us how many civilians versus military participants were killed during WWII.

Of course, no ethnic or religious or other group has an exclusive claim on suffering during WWII. Your statement is both a truism and a strawman. The Germans targeted Jews, as Jews, and killed a very high percentage of European Jews, as well as virtually destroying Jewish life and culture in its major European centers. Does this fact mean that Zigeuner didn't suffer at the hands of the Nazis? No. Or that the German people, misled into disaster, didn't suffer because of the Nazis? No. Or that over half the nearly 6 million Soviets taken prisoner by the Germans didn't die from hunger, shooting, or disease? No.

As for you bankers, wild claim - what's the substantiation?

The Germans treated Jews as enemies of the state leading up to and during the war and used them to perform slave labor to support the German war effort. There is uncontested proof of this. Jewish leaders in the US and UK declared war on Germany in the early thirties and the German leadership deemed them as enemy combatants much like the US did to the Japanese during the war. There is also well documented proof of this declaration by US Jewish officials who vowed to destroy Germany.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/jewishwar.cfm


According to several serious researchers and the records of the Red Cross, far fewer Jews died while imprisoned that the official 5-6 million that the so called holocaust experts assert. It is also alleged that most of those who did die did not die as a result of an extermination policy excercised by the Germans which has never been conclusively proven, but of disease and starvation which resulted at the end of the war as a result of logistical reasons which HAS been proven by forensic evidence.

As for the claim regarding bankers creating then profiting from wars, that has been going on for centuries. Where have you been?

http://www.rense.com/general61/bbil.shtm

Money For Peace? No! Money For War? YES!

World War II ended the "depression." The same Bankers who in the early 30's had no loans for peacetime houses, food and clothing, suddenly had unlimited billions to lend for Army barracks, K-rations and uniforms! A nation that in 1934 couldn't produce food for sale, suddenly could produce food and guns. Then send it for free to Russia and England to fight Germany and Japan! With the sudden increase in money, people were hired, farms sold their produce, factories went to two shifts, mines re-opened, and "The Great Depression" was over! Some politicians were blamed for it and others took credit for ending it. The truth is the lack of money (caused by the Bankers) brought on the depression, and adequate money ended it. The people were never told that simple truth. In this article we will show how these same Bankers who control our money and credit have used their control to plunder America and place us in bondage.

 

[TSR]

Jewish leaders in the US and UK declared war on Germany in the early thirties and the German leadership deemed them as enemy combatants much like the US did to the Japanese during the war.

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Seriously?

Much like the Japanese?

Do tell us: how many troops did these Jewish leaders command? How were they trained, deployed, supplied? Which German naval vessels did the Jews sink, and what territories were won / lost in actual battle?

What's that?

There *were* no such troops? No training, no deployment, no supplies? No German naval vessels and no territory?

Yeah, that was practically identical to the situation the US found itself in vis-à-vis the country of Japan.

Some times I really wish I hadn't promised A to cut back on my use of the term "asshat".

What there was, was a boycott proposed (in response to German mistreatment of Jewish businesses) and there was some rhetoric used in that proposal.

And tell us, just how badly did that boycott impact the German economy?

What's that?

Little to no impact?

Keep digging it deeper, "fence sitter".
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[Gene Alley]

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Nor did I propose such a 'parlay'.
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No, your running away from the matter at hand, that being agreeing upon the terms of the bet, was not a nice try.
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You mean like your inclusion of Paramount Pictures and Warner Bros.?

What objections do you have (other than the obvious) to my additions to the MM category?

And since your whole point, such as it is, is that the Jews 'control us', what objections do you have (other than the obvious) to my addition of those people who actually run the country?
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I have definitely *not* lost two, since you have offered no *proof* of the Jewishness of any of these people.

I owe you nothing until the bet is agreed upon, and such proof is offered. Such agreement (including the little matter of $1500 being escrowed, since I do not believe that without such you will not renege) should precede your lame attempts at proving any of the people you complain of is Jewish.
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No proof that any of these people is Jewish has been offered.
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No proof that any of these people is Jewish has been offered.
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Of course, that "only" happens to comprise the majority.

What objections do you have (other than the obvious) to my additions to the MM category?

And once again, I note that no proof that any of these people is Jewish has been offered.
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My bad. JREF went down here in the middle of my composing that post, and I was working from memory. It was Ginsburg I was objecting to, as in Douglas H. Ginsburg whose nom was withdrawn over his previous use of marijuana.

My apologies, but you *did* originally specify GinsbUrg, not GinsbErg.

Now, shall we agree on the bet, after which you can begin offering proof that any of these people is Jewish?
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If this isn't good enogh, regsarding the SCOTUS, nothing will satify you so there is no use.

List of Jewish United States Supreme Court Justices

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_United_States_Supreme_Court_justices

Jewish Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States

1)Ginsburg, RuthRuth Bader Ginsburg NY 1933– 1993–present — — Clinton Currently serving

2)Stephen Breyer MA 1938– 1994–present — — Clinton Currently serving

3)Elena Kagan NY 1960– 2010–present — — Obama Currently serving

You obviously don't understand the basic concepts of wagering. Your proposals are idiotic and ridiculous. For your sake, I hope you never bet with real money. Your tactics here are much like your antics in attacking the revisionists, weak, silly and sleazy. Give it up, you lose!!

 

[TSR]

If this isn't good enogh, regsarding the SCOTUS, nothing will satify you so there is no use.

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No, it's not good enough, and you are also wrong about my being satisfied.

Wiki is far from being a primary source, given that anyone can edit it (as our own Saggs recently demonstrated by creating a Wiki page, and then citing it as "proof" of the point zie was making -- neglecting to mention that zie was the author).

But let's run with this for a mo: if Wiki is "good enough" proof for you, can you remind us what they have to say about the gassings you deny?

Got any *primary* sources to offer? The Wiki article cites none...
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You obviously don't understand the basic concepts of wagering.

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"Obvious" only to you, like so much of your crap.
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Your proposals are idiotic and ridiculous.

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Really? What is idiotic and ridiculous about my additions to the MM category? About including the people that actually *run* the country? About needing primary sources?
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For your sake, I hope you never bet with real money.

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Actually, I win consistently when I play Blackjack, and we make enough on Lotto that last year we (playing three sets of numbers each drawing) only had to pay $6 out of pocket. Three of six gets enough for the next play, four or five of six make up for the times we don't even hit three -- we have never gotten all six, but it's far less than a single night at the theatre for that remote possibility.
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Your tactics here are much like your antics in attacking the revisionists, weak, silly and sleazy.

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No, those would be your tactics -- see above for what you take to be "proof" of a Jewish war, and the fact that you accept mindlessly a completely unsourced Wiki article and that you dishonestly insisted well beyond the time we all had your number that you were "looking at both sides".

See? That's that little "proof" thing the likes of which you keep failing to provide.
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Give it up, you lose!!

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No, that would be you and your "stand up" Nazi heroes. But *do* keep stamping your feet and waving your hands.

And running away, just as I predicted...
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[Humanzee]

Meh. Perhaps at this moment a largish percentage of supreme court justices are jewish (though that hasn't entirely been established). So what? If someone wants to imply a of 'jewish cabal' is in control of the courts, its hasn't been for very long. Fear the Episcopalians if you think those number really mean anything.

I'm sure you've seen this link
http://www.adherents.com/adh_sc.html

As of 2000 a total of 7 Justices have been jewish, or 6.4% of total. Thats a hardy slab of 'meh proof' for some jewish control of the US court system.

 

[Gene Alley]

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No, it's not good enough, and you are also wrong about my being satisfied.

Wiki is far from being a primary source, given that anyone can edit it (as our own Saggs recently demonstrated by creating a Wiki page, and then citing it as "proof" of the point zie was making -- neglecting to mention that zie was the author).

Got any *primary* sources to offer? The Wiki article cites none...
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"Obvious" only to you, like so much of your crap.
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Really? What is idiotic and ridiculous about my additions to the MM category? About including the people that actually *run* the country? About needing primary sources?
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Actually, I win consistently when I play Blackjack, and we make enough on Lotto that last year we (playing three sets of numbers each drawing) only had to pay $6 out of pocket last year. Three of six gets enough for the next play, four or five of six make up for the times we don't even hit three -- we have never gotten all six, but it's far less than a single night at the theatre for that remote possibility.
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No, those would be your tactics -- see above for what you take to be "proof" of a Jewish war, and the fact that you accept mindlessly a completely unsourced Wiki article and that you dishonestly insisted well beyond the time we all had your number that you were "looking at both sides".

See? That's that little "proof" thing the likes of which you keep failing to provide.
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No, that would be you and your "stand up" Nazi heroes. But *do* keep stamping your feet and waving your hands.

And running away, just as I predicted...
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Stick with the lotto kid, and here's a freindly tip:
Never bet on things that already happened. For example if you bet someone on last years Super Bowl and take Pittsburgh, you'll lose every time. By the same token, if you keep making bets about Kagen, Breyer and Ginsberg not being Jewish with someone who expects to get paid, you'll be be broke in no time. That ship already sailed. You are a riot!! Thanks for the laughs.

As for the rest of the crap you keep madly spewing, it's a bunch of incoherent drivel. Get a grip.

 

[TSR]

Stick with the lotto kid, and here's a freindly tip:
Never bet on things that already happened. For example if you bet someone on last years Super Bowl and take Pittsburgh, you'll lose every time. By the same token, if you keep making bets about Kagen, Breyer and Ginsberg not being Jewish with someone who expects to get paid, you'll be be broke in no time. That ship already sailed. You are a riot!! Thanks for the laughs.

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Got any of that "proof" thingy to back your bluster up, or are you content to keep running away?

And BTW, let's run with this for a mo: if Wiki is "good enough" proof for you, can you remind us what they have to say about the gassings you deny?
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As for the rest of the crap you keep madly spewing, it's a bunch of incoherent drivel. Get a grip.

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No, I only *quote* your madly spewed crap and incoherent drivel, and have actually offered proof using your own words.

Unlike yourself.

Now tell us, other than the obvious, what is wrong with my inclusions to the MM category or my proposal to include the people who actually run the country?

Stamp them feets, impotent hater -- wave them hands.
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[Hans]

Not to convert us, but to control us with a constant stream of mezmorizing BS.

Oh my another guy who has never watch foreign TV. Ah GK, ever watched a Japanese game show? Egyptian soap opera? Hindu movie? Chinese opera? Pure crap, bad TV is world wide - unless you're proclaiming that 'da joos' control the TV and media in China, India and the Arab world? ............ LOL, oh and I've lived and work in Europe, Middle East and Asia for decades....

 

[Gene Alley]

Oh my another guy who has never watch foreign TV. Ah GK, ever watched a Japanese game show? Egyptian soap opera? Hindu movie? Chinese opera? Pure crap, bad TV is world wide - unless you're proclaiming that 'da joos' control the TV and media in China, India and the Arab world? ............ LOL, oh and I've lived and work in Europe, Middle East and Asia for decades....

That's very impressive Hans, good for you.

 

[Gene Alley]

Seriously? Much like the Japanese? Do tell us: how many troops did these Jewish leaders command? How were they trained, deployed, supplied? Which German naval vessels did the Jews sink, and what territories were won / lost in actual battle? Yeah, that was practically identical to the situation the US found itself in vis-à-vis the country of Japan.

Some times I really wish I hadn't promised A to cut back on my use of the term "asshat". (nice)

What there was, was a boycott proposed (in response to German mistreatment of Jewish businesses) and there was some rhetoric used in that proposal. And tell us, just how badly did that boycott impact the German economy?

(Snipped much silly and incoherent drivel in which the poster seemed to be ranting to him/her/it self)

In the early '30s Germany was in a state of economic and political disarray. Many Germans felt that they were sold out by some of their own people in the Treaty of Versailles. Many powerful Jewish leaders and newspapers in the US and around the western world started to wage a war of hateful threatening rhetoric against the German Government and all of the German people. In the lead up to the war the German regime considered the Jews living within their borders a liability and possible national security risk. This is much the same reasoning used by Roosevelt who took the unprecedented step of disenfranchising and interring Japanese Americans during WWII. This harsh rhetoric was not simply a little boycott as you are trying to falsely convey, but a series of deadly threats by powerful Jewish leaders directly against the German people.

To wit:

http://www.whale.to/c/new_york_times.html

The New York Times, Monday, August 7, 1933

Text of Untermyer's Address

Following is the text of Samuel Untermyer's address last night over Station WABC after his return from Europe:

Read it and not the date

And look at some of this highly incendiary, threatening rhetoric that was aimed at the entire population of Germany BEFORE anyone was thrown into a concentration camp. It is these loudmouthed aholes who intentionally stirred up the pot from the safety of their lofty positions far away from any danger that threw the Jews of Germany under the bus with their hateful threatening rhetoric.

The Israeli people around the world declare economic and financial war against Germany. Fourteen million Jews stand together as one man, to declare war against Germany. The Jewish wholesaler will forsake his firm, the banker his stock exchange, the merchant his commerce and the pauper his pitiful shed in order to join together in a holy war against Hitler's people. - Daily Express, March 24, 1933

"All Jews world wide -- declared war on the Third Reich." (The London Daily Express, Front Page Story, 3/24/1933).

"Judea declares War on Germany." (Daily Express, March 24, 1934)

"The millions of Jews who live in America, England and France, North and South Africa, and, not to forget those in Palestine, are determined to bring the war of annihilation against Germany to its final end." (The Jewish newspaper, Central Blad Voor Israeliten in Nederland, September 13, 1939)

"Germany is the enemy of Judaism and must be pursued with deadly hatred. The goal of Judaism of today is: a merciless campaign against all German peoples and the complete destruction of the nation. We demand a complete blockade of trade, the importation of raw materials stopped, and retaliation towards every German, woman and child." (Jewish professor A. Kulischer, October, 1937)

"Kill the Germans, wherever you find them! Every German is our moral enemy. Have no mercy on women, children, or the aged! Kill every German -- wipe them out!" (Llya Ehrenburg, Glaser, p. 111).

"Our fight against Germany must be carried to the limit of what is possible. Israel has been attacked. Let us, therefore, defend Israel! Against the awakened Germany, we put an awakened Israel. And the world will defend us." (Jewish author Pierre Creange in his book Epitres aux Juifs, 1938)

"Germany must be turned into a waste land, as happened there during the 30-year War." (Das Morgenthau-Tagebuch, The Morgenthau Dairy, p. 11).

"The fight against Germany has now been waged for months by every Jewish community, on every conference, in all labor unions and by every single Jew in the world. There are reasons for the assumption that our share in this fight is of general importance. We shall start a spiritual and material war of the whole world against Germany. Germany is striving to become once again a great nation, and to recover her lost territories as well as her colonies. But our Jewish interests call for the complete destruction of Germany..."

(Valadimir Jabotinsky, in Mascha Rjetsch, January, 1934)

Each of you, Jew and Gentile alike, who has not already enlisted in this sacred war should do so now and here. It is not sufficient that you should buy no goods made in Germany. You must refuse to deal with any merchant or shopkeeper who sells any German-made goods or who patronises German ships or shipping.... we will undermine the Hitler regime and bring the German people to their senses by destroying their export trade on which their very existence depends.

- Samuel Undermeyer, in a Radio Broadcast on WABC, New York, August 6, 1933. Reported in the New York Times, August 7, 1933

Samuel Untermeyer was a Jewish leader and close friend of presidents Wilson and Roosevelt. Bernard Baruch (Jew) was a presidential adviser to Wilson, Roosevelt and Truman.

Joining with Samuel Untermeyer in calling for a war against Germany, Bernard Baruch, at the same time, was promoting preparations for war against Germany. 'I emphasised that the defeat of Germany and Japan and their elimination from world trade would give Britain a tremendous opportunity to swell her foreign commerce in both volume and profit.' - Baruch, The Public Years, by Bernard M. Baruch, p.347.

"...Jabotinsky insisted that all energies be expended to force the Congress to join the boycott movement. Nothing less than a 'merciless fight' would be acceptable, cried Jabotinsky. 'The present Congress is duty bound to put the Jewish problem in Germany before the entire world...(We [Jews] must) destroy, destroy, destroy them, not only with the boycott, but politically, supporting all existing forces against them to isolate Germany from the civilized world...our enemy [Germany] must be destroyed."

(Speech by future Israeli terrorist Vladimir Jabotinsky, a Polish Jew, on June 16, 1933)

For months now the struggle against Germany is waged by each Jewish community, at each conference, in all our syndicates, and by each Jew all over the world. There is reason to believe that our part in this struggle has general value. We will trigger a spiritual and material war of all the world against Germany's ambitions to become once again a great nation, to recover lost territories and colonies. But our Jewish interests demand the complete destruction of Germany. Collectively and individually, the German nation is a threat to us Jews.

- Vladimir Jabotinsky (founder of the Jewish terrorist group, Irgun Zvai Leumi) in Mascha Rjetsch, January, 1934 (also quoted in Histoire de l'Armée Allemande by Jacques Benoist-Mechin, Vol. IV, p. 303).



http://www.whale.to/b/jewish_hostility_q.html

 

[Humanzee]

Hmm all of those quotes post-date Hitlers rise to power. Why would that be?