Merged General Holocaust denial discussion thread

[Hans]

There you go Hans. You are on to something.

It gets worse I have proof positive that it dem thar white Anglo-Saxon Protestants seem to be everywhere - those bastards!

 

[Gene Alley]

Originally Posted by Gene Alley
I have never been a member of that forum, and you guys are too much fun. Lotsa panties all in a wad.

But without even doing any research I'd be willing to bet $500 each that the:

1)percentage of Federal reserve board members who are Jewish far exceeds the US Jewish population.

2)percentage of Supreme Court Justices who are Jewish far exceeds...

3)percentage of media owners/CEOs........


Anyone want to bet against my "crap"?

The point is, who cares if so and so many percent of any board of directors or whatever is Jewish? Well, obviously you do, but why? Is this about trying to evidence the assertion that Jews control EVERYTHING? If so, I'd like to assert that the US government, the government agencies, the media and most coorporations are controlled by Christians. I mean, as long as we're generalizing every person according to their religious background, Christians hold the majority of influential positions, including the POTUS.

Where are your worries about Christians scheeming to surpress the "twoof"?

So I guess you don't want to bet eh? Good play!!

85% of Americans are Christians.

How many American Christians are on the Federal Reserve Board?

 

[Gene Alley]

Can you prove it without linking to CODOH or any other Nazi forum or blog?

CODOH is Nazi?

How about Criminal State, or Antineocon?

 

[uke2se]

So I guess you don't want to bet eh? Good play!!

85% of Americans are Christians.

How many American Christians are on the Federal Reserve Board?

My count is two. Why did you select the Federal Reserve Board? Let's try another one. How many American Christians are US Senators?

 

[Corsair 115]

Where might one find such wonderful documentation? Was it mentioned in the wonderfully accurate original documents accompanied by actual accusers, at the one-sided War Crimes Trials?

In Adam Tooze's The Wages of Destruction, chapter 14, entitled "The Grand Strategy of Racial War" covers the Hunger Plan and other similar aspects of the Nazi regime. A few select quotes:

Whereas the Final Solution and the Generalplan Ost were secrets closely guarded by the SS, for fear, amongst other things, of antagonizing the local population, the second programme, which openly envisioned the killing of tens of millions of people within the first twelve months of the German occupation, was agreed between the Wehrmacht, all the key civilian Ministries and the Nazi political leadership as early as the spring of 1941. Nor can the so-called 'Hunger Plan' be described as a secret. It was referred to in official instructions issued to thousands of subordinates. And, perhaps most importantly, no effort was made to hide the wider rationale of the individual acts of brutality that the programme required. On the contrary, all German soldiers and occupation administrators in Soviet territory were enjoined to understand and to commit themselves to its strategic logic. This genocidal plan commanded such wide-ranging support because it concerned a practical issue, the importance of which, following Germany's experience in World War I, was obvious to all: the need to secure the food supply of the German population, if necessary at the expense of the population of the Soviet Union.

... To enable the grain surplus of the Ukraine to be directed immediately towards German needs, it was necessary simply to cut the Soviet cities out of the food chain. After ten years of Stalinist urbanization, the urban population of the western Soviet Union was now to be starved to death.

... On 2 May 1941 the State Secretaries representing all the major Ministerial agencies met in conference with General Thomas to draft plans for the occupation. The result is one of the most extraordinary bureaucratic records in the history of the Nazi regime. In far more unvarnished language than was ever used in relation to the Jewish question, all of the major agencies of the German state agreed to a programme of mass murder, which dwarfed that which Heydrich was to propose to the Wansee meeting nine months later.

Just some of the sources cited in the footnotes to that chapter:

Das deutsche Reich und der Zweite Weltkrieg (R.-D. Mueller)
Vordenker der Vernichtung (Aly and Heim)
Kalkulierte Morde: Die deutsche Wirtschafts- und Vernichtungspolitik in Weissrussland 1941 bis 1944 (C. Gerlach)
Krieg, Ernaehrung, Voelkermond: Deutsche Vernichtungspolitik im Zweiten Weltkrieg (C. Gerlach)
International Military Tribunal, Trial of the Major War Criminals before the International Military Tribunals, Nuremberg 14 November-1 October 1946, XIII, XXXI, XXXVI

Given that the Nazi regime was quite willing to starve to death millions of civilians, and given the long history and prominence of anti-Semitism in Hitler's government, that the Third Reich would decide to deliberately exterminate the Jews of Europe hardly seems surprising nor even out of character for it.

 

[uke2se]

CODOH is Nazi?

As we've already been over, yes. Founded by Nazis, run by Nazis.

How about Criminal State, or Antineocon?

How about you use unbiased mainstream sources? Too harsh?

 

[Corsair 115]

Jewish greed, Jewish monomaniacal self-regard, joined with the self-defeating and degenerate acquiescence of both by non - Jews throughout the American political system, media, and academic worlds, ensure that the taboo against questioning any of this murderous nonsense is enforced.

Your about one step away from asserting a global Jewish conspiracy. Which is exactly the kind of thing Hitler and other leading Nazis constantly talked about.

 

[Hans]

So I guess you don't want to bet eh? Good play!!

85% of Americans are Christians.

How many American Christians are on the Federal Reserve Board?

86% of American adults identified as Christians in 1990 and 76% in 2008.

 

[Gene Alley]

As we've already been over, yes. Founded by Nazis, run by Nazis.



How about you use unbiased mainstream sources? Too harsh?

Unlike the mainstream media, CODOH is an open forum for debate on holocaust issues.

Regarding the topic of the inordinate amount of Jewish power in government and media, there are NO sources that are both 'mainstream" and 'unbiased'. You see, that's the whole point. Got it?

 

[MG1962]

So I guess you don't want to bet eh? Good play!!

85% of Americans are Christians.

How many American Christians are on the Federal Reserve Board?

We moving on already - It was my hope you might respond to the Jewish media comment - alas it was not to be

 

[uke2se]

Unlike the mainstream media, CODOH is an open forum for debate on holocaust issues.

Nope, as has been shown in this thread, CODOH holds little regards towards those who don't swallow the lies of the deniers.

Regarding the topic of the inordinate amount of Jewish power in government and media, there are NO sources that are both 'mainstream" and 'unbiased'. You see, that's the whole point. Got it?

No, that's not true at all. Go to academia.

How many US governors are American Christians, Gene? How many news or media corporations in the US are chaired by Jewish people? Seriously, if the Jews run EVERYTHING, the figures should show that more than 50% of all important positions are held by Jewish people.

 

[Gene Alley]

Quote:
Jewish greed, Jewish monomaniacal self-regard, joined with the self-defeating and degenerate acquiescence of both by non - Jews throughout the American political system, media, and academic worlds, ensure that the taboo against questioning any of this murderous nonsense is enforced.

Your about one step away from asserting a global Jewish conspiracy. Which is exactly the kind of thing Hitler and other leading Nazis constantly talked about.

These are not my words. This was a quote mined statement that one of your cohorts dug up from Bradley Smith's blog. It took two days for the guy to come up with, and aparently according to him/her it proves that Smith is a viscious Nazi and should be silenced.

 

[uke2se]

These are not my words. This was a quote mined statement that one of your cohorts dug up from Bradley Smith's blog. It took two days for the guy to come up with, and aparently according to him/her it proves that Smith is a viscious Nazi and should be silenced.

Not your words, but according to you, "right on target".

 

[Gene Alley]

Nope, as has been shown in this thread, CODOH holds little regards towards those who don't swallow the lies of the deniers.



No, that's not true at all. Go to academia.

How many US governors are American Christians, Gene? How many news or media corporations in the US are chaired by Jewish people? Seriously, if the Jews run EVERYTHING, the figures should show that more than 50% of all important positions are held by Jewish people.

1)Your biased opinion. Did you get banned from CODOH?

2)I never said that "the Jews run EVERYTHING". Those are your words.

 

[uke2se]

1)Your biased opinion. Did you get banned from CODOH?

Nope, but others did for daring to question the deniers.

2)I never said that "the Jews run EVERYTHING". Those are your words.

So Jews don't run EVERYTHING then? What do Jews run that they shouldn't?

 

[Gene Alley]

Not your words, but according to you, "right on target".

So Bradley Smith is a "Stand up Guy". Really!?

This is a guy who says such things as:

Jewish greed, Jewish monomaniacal self-regard, joined with the self-defeating and degenerate acquiescence of both by non - Jews throughout the American political system, media, and academic worlds, ensure that the taboo against questioning any of this murderous nonsense is enforced.[/QUOTE]

http://bradleysmithsblog.blogspot.co...1_archive.html

quote=Gene Alley

The wording is a bit blunt, but the assertions are right on target.

Paschal dug through everything he could by Bradley Smith and came up with this as proof that Smith was a Nazi. I bolded the part I agreed with as it pertains to this thread. I believe that "Jews throuhout the American political system, media, and acedemic worlds, ensure that the taboo against questioning the holocaust is enforced. I do not agree with the way that Mr. Smith phrased it.

 

[uke2se]

So Bradley Smith is a "Stand up Guy". Really!?

This is a guy who says such things as:



Paschal dug through everything he could by Bradley Smith and came up with this as proof that Smith was a Nazi. I bolded the part I agreed with as it pertains to this thread. I believe that "Jews throuhout the American political system, media, and acedemic worlds, ensure that the taboo against questioning the holocaust is enforced. I do not agree with the way that Mr. Smith phrased it.

And Corsair 115 said that you were about one step away from asserting global Jewish conspiracy.

Again, could you pretty please clean your quotes up? I mean, it's not rocket science.

 

[Gene Alley]

We moving on already - It was my hope you might respond to the Jewish media comment - alas it was not to be

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-stein19-2008dec19,0,4676183.column

Excerpt:

have never been so upset by a poll in my life. Only 22% of Americans now believe "the movie and television industries are pretty much run by Jews," down from nearly 50% in 1964. The Anti-Defamation League, which released the poll results last month, sees in these numbers a victory against stereotyping. Actually, it just shows how dumb America has gotten. Jews totally run Hollywood.

How deeply Jewish is Hollywood? When the studio chiefs took out a full-page ad in the Los Angeles Times a few weeks ago to demand that the Screen Actors Guild settle its contract, the open letter was signed by: News Corp. President Peter Chernin (Jewish), Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Jewish), Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger (Jewish), Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (surprise, Dutch Jew), Warner Bros. Chairman Barry Meyer (Jewish), CBS Corp. Chief Executive Leslie Moonves (so Jewish his great uncle was the first prime minister of Israel), MGM Chairman Harry Sloan (Jewish) and NBC Universal Chief Executive Jeff Zucker (mega-Jewish). If either of the Weinstein brothers had signed, this group would have not only the power to shut down all film production but to form a minyan with enough Fiji water on hand to fill a mikvah.

Joel Stein

 

[TSR]

But without even doing any research ...

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Yeah, why start a trend?

Tell you what, post the contact information for the person holding your bet in escrow (so that it can confirmed that a) the money exists and b) proper instructions have been arranged for its disbursement) and define "far in excess" so we know what standard *you* apply to that proviso, and I will also use the same trustee for my part of the bet.

Or run away some more...
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[TSR]

Unlike the mainstream media, CODOH is an open forum for debate on holocaust issues.

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If, of course, by "open forum" one means that opposing points of view are summarily censored, I suppose.
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Regarding the topic of the inordinate amount of Jewish power in government and media, there are NO sources that are both 'mainstream" and 'unbiased'. You see, that's the whole point.

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And other than not agreeing with your own personal irrational hate, by what standard do you smear the mainstream media?
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Got it?

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Oh, more than you appear to realize.
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