WTC dust

[WTC Dust]

But you have to agree that I'm not the person who wants to talk endlessly about airplanes.

They didn't do it.

I'm trying to talk about what did.


Since airplanes didn't do it, I don't want to talk about airplanes.
I'm so glad all of you have read these things. I'm already proved correct.
It might take you a long time to acknowledge it, but that's up to you.

At least, you've heard the truth from a 9/11 Truther.

Goodnight.

We are not 'bringing up' airplanes as if they had never figured before,we talking about reality. You have an insane fantasy.

 

[Sunstealer]

I'm now laughing at the debunkers on this thread more than I'm laughing at dusty. Dusty has an excuse - she's a sandwich short of a picnic, the rest of you... well um what's your excuse? Some crazy person writing the most unbelievable nonsense on the internet must, at all costs, be refuted? No matter what anyone says it isn't going to make any difference whatsoever to Tracy Blevins. Dusty craves attention more than anything in the world. It's like a dog that would rather have a severe beating from it's master than no attention whatsoever. Anyone responding to it is feeding that need.

For everyone's sake just let the thread die, it serves no purpose. Surely one can only stare at the car crash, guts and all, for so long.

 

[dafydd]

I'm now laughing at the debunkers on this thread more than I'm laughing at dusty. Dusty has an excuse - she's a sandwich short of a picnic, the rest of you... well um what's your excuse? Some crazy person writing the most unbelievable nonsense on the internet must, at all costs, be refuted? No matter what anyone says it isn't going to make any difference whatsoever to Tracy Blevins. Dusty craves attention more than anything in the world. It's like a dog that would rather have a severe beating from it's master than no attention whatsoever. Anyone responding to it is feeding that need.

For everyone's sake just let the thread die, it serves no purpose. Surely one can only stare at the car crash, guts and all, for so long.

Ok. I've laughed long enough at Dusty. I'm out. I still don't believe she has a Phd.

 

[Dash80]

I'm now laughing at the debunkers on this thread more than I'm laughing at dusty. Dusty has an excuse - she's a sandwich short of a picnic, the rest of you... well um what's your excuse? Some crazy person writing the most unbelievable nonsense on the internet must, at all costs, be refuted? No matter what anyone says it isn't going to make any difference whatsoever to Tracy Blevins. Dusty craves attention more than anything in the world. It's like a dog that would rather have a severe beating from it's master than no attention whatsoever. Anyone responding to it is feeding that need.

For everyone's sake just let the thread die, it serves no purpose. Surely one can only stare at the car crash, guts and all, for so long.

I agree with you Sunstealer, but for some reason this particular whackjob is touching a nerve with me.

 

[TheRedWorm]

I'm now laughing at the debunkers on this thread more than I'm laughing at dusty. Dusty has an excuse - she's a sandwich short of a picnic, the rest of you... well um what's your excuse? Some crazy person writing the most unbelievable nonsense on the internet must, at all costs, be refuted? No matter what anyone says it isn't going to make any difference whatsoever to Tracy Blevins. Dusty craves attention more than anything in the world. It's like a dog that would rather have a severe beating from it's master than no attention whatsoever. Anyone responding to it is feeding that need.

For everyone's sake just let the thread die, it serves no purpose. Surely one can only stare at the car crash, guts and all, for so long.

I just wanted to try a different debate tactic; to relate what she is doing with something that might frustrate her, in her own field.

 

[WTC Dust]

So what are you saying destroyed the WTC? Office fires?

Don't forget that jet fuel burns out quickly. No amount of jet fuel could exist in the WTC (even if your 19 Arab conspiracy is true) after about 5 minutes, maximum.

Then what did you have? A regular office fire.Again, according to your view point. The normal, regular things that make up an office caught fire, and an hour later or more, the buildings just went up POOOOF like that.

I disagree. Not that the buildings went POOF> Of course, they did. I disagree with the commonly accecpted explanation of a regular, normal office fire, plus a bit of damage from a plane crash, that caused the buildings to do that.

Planes have crashed into buildings more than once in history, and that stuff didn't happen. None of the buildings went POOF! None of the buildings left behind metallic foam, similar to the stuff I found in my home near Ground Zero.

Something else did it.

Dr. Judy Wood might be right, and she might be wrong. But whoever is right about what destroyed the buildings, it has to produce the kind of metallic foam that I possess.


Not a lot of things that I know about can produce this kind of material. That's my point to you JREFrs that I really wish you'd focus on. Planes are boring topics, once you realize that they played no role in the destruction of the WTC.

How about what I'm really talking about? The metallic foam????

Ignoring the fact that there are audio recordings, tell us what compels the surviving family members to tell "those stories" if they didn't in fact lose their loved ones to a plane hijacking.



Nobody in the world anywhere ever has made the claim: 'planes destroyed the WTC'. Stick that straw man in your bong and smoke it once and for all. Stop being deliberately dense. If you can.

 

[carlitos]

I'm now laughing at the debunkers on this thread more than I'm laughing at dusty. Dusty has an excuse - she's a sandwich short of a picnic, the rest of you... well um what's your excuse? Some crazy person writing the most unbelievable nonsense on the internet must, at all costs, be refuted? No matter what anyone says it isn't going to make any difference whatsoever to Tracy Blevins. Dusty craves attention more than anything in the world. It's like a dog that would rather have a severe beating from it's master than no attention whatsoever. Anyone responding to it is feeding that need.

For everyone's sake just let the thread die, it serves no purpose. Surely one can only stare at the car crash, guts and all, for so long.

This.

 

[Newtons Bit]

This.

But someone on the internet is wrong (and possibly insane)!

 

[BStrong]

C'mon guys, stop making fun of the slow kid.

 

[tsig]

Are you trained in research science?

I am.

I am not a plane expert, but that's fine. I'm not the one who is saying a couple plane crashes destroyed the entire WTC ++. You are.

I have studied the mechanism of destruction of the WTC for these many years. My results do not involve any sort of airplane or any object physcially impacting the WTC.

You do know that the strange smell you smelled was roasted human flesh?

 

[Kid Eager]

So what are you saying destroyed the WTC? Office fires?

Don't forget that jet fuel burns out quickly. No amount of jet fuel could exist in the WTC (even if your 19 Arab conspiracy is true) after about 5 minutes, maximum.

Then what did you have? A regular office fire.Again, according to your view point. The normal, regular things that make up an office caught fire, and an hour later or more, the buildings just went up POOOOF like that.

I disagree. Not that the buildings went POOF> Of course, they did. I disagree with the commonly accecpted explanation of a regular, normal office fire, plus a bit of damage from a plane crash, that caused the buildings to do that.

Planes have crashed into buildings more than once in history, and that stuff didn't happen. None of the buildings went POOF! None of the buildings left behind metallic foam, similar to the stuff I found in my home near Ground Zero.

Something else did it.

Dr. Judy Wood might be right, and she might be wrong. But whoever is right about what destroyed the buildings, it has to produce the kind of metallic foam that I possess.


Not a lot of things that I know about can produce this kind of material. That's my point to you JREFrs that I really wish you'd focus on. Planes are boring topics, once you realize that they played no role in the destruction of the WTC.

How about what I'm really talking about? The metallic foam????

Beat me, whip me, but I can't resist the obvious:

WHAT. METALLIC. FOAM.

 

[sts60]

I agree with you Sunstealer, but for some reason this particular whackjob is touching a nerve with me.

Dash, I understand that you actually saw one of the plane impacts, and it's galling to have some loon deny this. But that's what loons do. As I've said before, this whole ridiculous thread is simply an exercise in ego gratification by an incompetent crank appealing vaguely to the work of another incompetent crank. It has a sod-all to do with the real world; nobody cares, and it will never affect anything.

Internet loons will get under your skin as long as you pay attention to them - they have something of the five-year-old's ability to simply deny anything they don't like to hear, but unlike the child they will never grow out of it and you are under no obligation to try to help them become a productive member of society. The thing you should remember is that unlike the poor crazy guy raving outside the 7-11, when you close your Web browser such Internet loons vanish into the obscurity they merit.

 

[alienentity]

Ok. I've laughed long enough at Dusty. I'm out. I still don't believe she has a Phd.

She does, actually. A PhD is not a magic cloak which protects you from having dumb ideas though.

 

[alienentity]

...
How about what I'm really talking about? The metallic foam????

Yeeesss, what of it? The stuff that you refuse to send to an independent lab for analysis, ensuring that you'll never know what it is....

Not much to discuss, since you haven't a clue what it is. Check in when you've had it analyzed by a competent lab. (you won't do that, of course, that would spoil the little game you're playing).

Until that day...

 

[bill smith]

But you have to agree that I'm not the person who wants to talk endlessly about airplanes.

They didn't do it.

I'm trying to talk about what did.


Since airplanes didn't do it, I don't want to talk about airplanes.
I'm so glad all of you have read these things. I'm already proved correct.
It might take you a long time to acknowledge it, but that's up to you.

At least, you've heard the truth from a 9/11 Truther.

Goodnight.

Talking about the foam for a minute- You said it was a matrix of dust full of pockets of air that had once been filled with some kind of gas. (paraphrasing) I assume that that it's friable now . Rigid and brittle. When you crush this foam how does the resulting powder compare to the samples that you studied of Steven Jones ? Is it a close match ? If not what are the main differences.?

 

[Dash80]

Dash, I understand that you actually saw one of the plane impacts, and it's galling to have some loon deny this. But that's what loons do. As I've said before, this whole ridiculous thread is simply an exercise in ego gratification by an incompetent crank appealing vaguely to the work of another incompetent crank. It has a sod-all to do with the real world; nobody cares, and it will never affect anything.

Internet loons will get under your skin as long as you pay attention to them - they have something of the five-year-old's ability to simply deny anything they don't like to hear, but unlike the child they will never grow out of it and you are under no obligation to try to help them become a productive member of society. The thing you should remember is that unlike the poor crazy guy raving outside the 7-11, when you close your Web browser such Internet loons vanish into the obscurity they merit.

Thats the best thing about truthers, one click and they don't exist anymore. It's a very rare thing for me to encounter any outside of the internet, apart from one particular ex-friend of mine who is a no-planer loon. Perhaps thats one of the reasons Dusty winds me up so much, she reminds me of the friend I now refuse to have anything to do with. He wasn't half as ignorant and egotistical though.

Unlike the truthers, my memories of that day and it's aftermath cannot just be switched off. Dusty and (every other crazy truther) pisses on every person who died or suffered that day, feeding off human tragedy for attention, it makes me sick.

 

[sylvan8798]

A huge column of air follows an airplane. It's caused by the drag force.

Indulge us by suggesting how huge it should be?

 

[WTC Dust]

I'm not calling anyone a liar, not even Steven Jones!

This is the nature of a scientific discovery. When someone discovers something (like when I discovered that the WTC was turned into foam), it doesn't mean that other people are liars. It means that new information exists now that leads to an understanding that those other people are wrong.

Being wrong doesn't mean the same thing as being a liar. Wrong people don't always know they are wrong. Before I discovered that the WTC was turned into foam, how could they possibly know?

Nobody discovered it before me, so they are forgiven for making mistakes. They aren't liars.

When you say you saw a plane, I am not calling you a liar. I'm saying you were tricked. You thought you saw a plane, for good reasons. You saw something that looked an awful lot like a plane.

The problem is the object you saw flying through the sky did not behave as an airplane would have if it crashed into the south face of WTC 2. There wasn't debris bouncing back from the south face of WTC 2 at the moment of impact. There wasn't evidence of the wake that follows every airplane in flight. That wake would have seriously disturbed the fumes coming from WTC 1 and the explosion that later came from WTC 2 after the object that appeared to be a plane entered the building.

You're not a liar. You're just mistaken. I know people who are my close friends and associates who think they saw a plane in the sky on 9/11. They aren't liars, either. September Clues calls them liars, but not me.

You are just as bad as the september clues kooks. You imply that lots of people are liars too, the same people and organizations I mentioned before.

The nose-out footage IS in question, because it's not the freakin' nose! Or some "projected" nose either.

Don't presume to know what I'd say, you forget I saw that plane HIT the building, a real plane screaming across the sky and visibly and audibly crashing into it. You say I did not, so what is that if it's not accusing me of lying?

 

[WTC Dust]

The wake would have been large enough to be seen by its disturbance of the fume cloud coming from WTC 1.

The air would have been disturbed near the WTC complex, if a plane had flown anywhere near there, but it really wasn't. The fumes were smoothly exiting WTC 1 the entire time. A little tiny bump during the moment that WTC 2 exploded, but not much. And the explosion that came out of WTC 2? Very round, displaying zero evidence of any wake.

Indulge us by suggesting how huge it should be?

 

[WTC Dust]

I studied kinetic energy for my PhD, silly. My thesis title was "The Two State Model of Receptor Activation: The Agonist and the Efficacy" and I guarantee that a deep understanding of kinetic energy was required for me to produce this work. The binding of any ligand to its receptor is highly governed by kinetic energy. Did you know this? Now you do.

I made a mistake and admitted it once it was discovered by JREFers. In fact, this is the only thing that you as a group have helped me on, and for this I thank you.

I wish you'd pay a little more attention to my work and what I am saying. If and when you find mistakes, I'm very happy. Thanks ahead of time.

Correct me if I am wrong,but isn't Dusty the one who thought that the crew in the plane that crashed into the Empire State Building survived the crash and calmly caught the lift to the ground floor? That plane ploughed through the buiding and one of it's engines killed some people in the building next door. It was a smaller plane that those invoved in 911. Dusty's Phd did not include studying kinetic energy.