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There are many ways for the official story to be false, and only one way for it to be true. Anything that does not support the official story diminishes its likelihood.

The same is true for the "conspiracy theories," in spades. The "Official Story" presents an internally and externally consistent narrative. The "inside job" or "LIHOP" or "MIHOP" or "no planes" story doesn't, and that's why there are all these competing "theories" about 9/11 -- because in order to believe it wasn't a simple orchestrated hijacking carried out by people willing to die for God, conspiracy theorists have to bend their minds and the facts into all sort of pretzel contortions to try to fit the observed reality.
 
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You mean.....
uh...
what DO you mean?

I think you need an education on pretty much every aspect of pretty much everything.

So there would be evidence of the hijacking like the Cockpit voice recording...etc, then the planes are taken over by remote control. I'm not saying that happened one way or the other but that could have been the plan.
 
This may be my last response to you as well. I don't like when people say i said things I didn't say.
I put no words in youre mouth. You came here spouting nonsense, you're the special combination of arrogance and ignorance that makes you a ripe target for the hucksters like Richard Gage and Steven Jones.

When you grow up you'll be embarrassed you ever believed in this nonsense.
 
I put no words in youre mouth. You came here spouting nonsense, you're the special combination of arrogance and ignorance that makes you a ripe target for the hucksters like Richard Gage and Steven Jones.

When you grow up you'll be embarrassed you ever believed in this nonsense.

I gave examples in the previous post...you said I said fake plane crashes, and agents scattered debris. Look through the entire thread I never said any such thing. Also again way not to address LLoyde England or that doofus in the studio.
 
This may be my last response to you as well. I don't like when people say i said things I didn't say. I never said fake plane crashes. I said some things don't add up about the pentagon, I gave lloyde england's testimony, that doofus with a part of flight 77 that just comes into the studio, and their being a picture of him else where at the time as evidence. That doesn't mean that some jet -airliner didn't crash into the pentagon...just highly suspicious. For the thermite see the videos i've linked to several times. Again I never mentioned once about agents scattering debris, I said 93 was likely shot down...because of the scattered debris, and the deep impact crater indicates a vertical descent, making the "rolling" of debris impossible.

You doubt that hijackers took and piloted the planes. So how else do you explain the fact that planes flew into the twin towers? Should be a story that is more credible than the one of five trained and deicated murderers with deadly weapons and surprise on their side.

You doubt that a plane flew into the Pentagon, or ... what exactly do you doubt? And what alternative story do you have that adds up better?

You say that 93 was shot down. Do you realise that we have records of the entire radar coverage of the eastern USA, and that no fighter planes show up on them near Shanksville? Why would the military successfully prvent another plane from striking a target close to the heart of the nation and stay silent about it? Explain that!

I wonder if any of your alternative plots isn't much more complex that then real story, which was dead simple:
- Buy box cutters
- Train to slit throats
- Buy plane tickets
- Board
- Enter cockpit
- Slit throats
- Fly plane
- Crash

Took 19 people to execute and a handful more to finance and organise a few things.
What would your alternative plots take in terms of manpower?
 
So there would be evidence of the hijacking like the Cockpit voice recording...etc, then the planes are taken over by remote control. I'm not saying that happened one way or the other but that could have been the plan.

It's been 10 years. Stop speculating.

FYI - the cockpit voice recording is not just kept on the airplane. It's recorded elsewhere, by air traffic control.
 
So there would be evidence of the hijacking like the Cockpit voice recording...etc, then the planes are taken over by remote control. I'm not saying that happened one way or the other but that could have been the plan.
Or even the ATC recordings.

(oh wait, there was) Just ignore these too.


:rolleyes:
 
You doubt that hijackers took and piloted the planes. So how else do you explain the fact that planes flew into the twin towers? Should be a story that is more credible than the one of five trained and deicated murderers with deadly weapons and surprise on their side.

You doubt that a plane flew into the Pentagon, or ... what exactly do you doubt? And what alternative story do you have that adds up better?

You say that 93 was shot down. Do you realise that we have records of the entire radar coverage of the eastern USA, and that no fighter planes show up on them near Shanksville? Why would the military successfully prvent another plane from striking a target close to the heart of the nation and stay silent about it? Explain that!

I wonder if any of your alternative plots isn't much more complex that then real story, which was dead simple:
- Buy box cutters
- Train to slit throats
- Buy plane tickets
- Board
- Enter cockpit
- Slit throats
- Fly plane
- Crash

Took 19 people to execute and a handful more to finance and organise a few things.
What would your alternative plots take in terms of manpower?

I just said remote control. Why would they stay silent...well maybe because they would be asked why they didn't prevent the others especially the pentagon. Other planes did show up..listen to witness accounts. Listen read my example I make the "official" plot sound much difficult then you have it, mostly because it really is.

In terms of the pentagon...I doubt the official version. Some jet air-liner could have crashed into it, but I don't know. Look at lloyde england's testimony and that doofus in the tv studio with a piece of the plane. While a photo taken by an official military photographer places him else where at the time.
 
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Or even the ATC recordings.

(oh wait, there was) Just ignore these too.


:rolleyes:

What are you talking about? I said they could ( I don't know) have real hijacking to make that stuff authentic, and then the planes are taken over by remote control.
 
Thermite, dancing jews, caves dwellers, Israel, gage's list, bad pilot, NIST is a lie, everyone "official" is a liar too, the pentagon doesn't fit, nothing makes sense... blah blah blah....

This is the same old song and dance....
 
What are you talking about? I said they could ( I don't know) have real hijacking to make that stuff authentic, and then the planes are taken over by remote control.
Why? Can't pilots fly planes? (you do know the hijackers were pilots)

Keep it simple.That's why it worked.
 
I gave examples in the previous post...you said I said fake plane crashes, and agents scattered debris. Look through the entire thread I never said any such thing. Also again way not to address LLoyde England or that doofus in the studio.
Dude, if you doubt Lloyd England's story you think the plane crash at the Pentagon was faked.

Do tell about the team of secret ninjas that planted the light poles in broad daylight in front of an interstate crowded with rush hour traffic. :rolleyes:
 
I just said remote control.
Remote control planes, really? Tell us all about how the NWO/Mossad/whatever was able to extensively modify civilian airliners without any of the maintenance crews noticing all this extra equipment.

You are now including the airlines in this ridiculously complax and vast conspiracy of yours, yes? :rolleyes:
 
Why? Can't pilots fly planes? (you do know the hijackers were pilots)

Keep it simple.That's why it worked.

Maybe because hitting those targets was hard. Those planes were maxed out speed wise, and under trained pilots were able to hit those building that square? For the pentagon it's hard to keep it off the ground while still being lower then the roof. Are all three of these possible, yes from I read it would have been very difficult for experienced pilots to do, let alone under trained, and by all reports of the one at the pentagon...a bad pilot.
 
Dude, if you doubt Lloyd England's story you think the plane crash at the Pentagon was faked.

Do tell about the team of secret ninjas that planted the light poles in broad daylight in front of an interstate crowded with rush hour traffic. :rolleyes:

I'm only using his words he said it was planned, and the rich people this is their thing. I've said I doubt the pentagon story giving this as a reason (among many others) for my doubt. He said what he said. What happened I don't know...I don't need to know exactly what happened to have doubts about the official story. All the government has to do is release those other videos they have...and they do have them, you can see in many photos cameras that would have picked the whole thing up.
 
I gave examples in the previous post...you said I said fake plane crashes, and agents scattered debris. Look through the entire thread I never said any such thing. Also again way not to address LLoyde England or that doofus in the studio.

They're just getting confused. We're beginning to outnumbrer them on the jref scale. It was a post of mine they were talking about.

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Conspirator i: Have they cleared the damn backlog yet ? We need to get 93 off the ground pronto. Those airport cops will be going that way soon. If they see that the olane is under remote control we're utterly screwed. The whole operation is blown.
Conspirator 2: It's starting to roll. But it's too late to complete the mission..could be fighters around by now. Better tell the joystick oilot to get clearance right now and take off. Tell him to fly out over Pennsylvania while we work out what to do with the plane.
Conspirator 1: He says she's very heavy. Must be all that extra fuel I guess.
some time later....
Conspirator 1: Okay...we'll land her in Cleveland. We have a team there who will take her straight to a secure area out of sight.
Conspirator 2: Some seals went in by chopper and found a spot in a place called Shanksville . They blew a big hole in the ground and scatttered some debris around. We'll put out the story that the plane went in nose first at maximum speed and completely buried itself in the ground. Not perfect but it will have to do.
Conspirator 1: It really is amazing that a little fire on the runway could have caused so many problems. Now Seven will have to be demolished in plain view in New York and we have to fake a jet crash in Shanksville in a very dubious way. There will be endless problems with this. People on forums for a hundred years.
Conspirator 2: And if it had all gone smoothly we would have had three Towers, Three planes,and no Shanksville. All as neat as ninepence.'
 
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I put no words in youre mouth. You came here spouting nonsense, you're the special combination of arrogance and ignorance that makes you a ripe target for the hucksters like Richard Gage and Steven Jones.

When you grow up you'll be embarrassed you ever believed in this nonsense.

WC - you're assuming facts not in evidence.
 
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