Merged Evolution battle brews in Texas / Victory for Evolution in Texas

[rwguinn]

Shall we discuss MD Anderson cancer treatment center? Two people in my office have been there, and remain alive today, cancer survivors. Yay Houston!

And when I finally give in and get the knee replacement, I want somebody associated with the Baylor Orthopedic bunch doing it...

 

[Elizabeth I]

yes i did.
however, with the numerous threads about rick perry, and the fact that executions happen regularly, and having met many texan rednecks tin alberta's oil industry, i don't have much of a positive exposure to texan culture.
sorry, but that is the 'image from afar'.
i'm pleased when ever i see something that rattles the paradigm.
no offense is intended to more enlightened texans.

Are you really ignorant - and prejudiced - enough to judge a whole state with a population of nearly 25 million by a few people you've met who work in the oil patch? I didn't expect that of anyone (well, hardly anyone) here at JREF.

Well, let me see. You live in Canada, don't you, eh? I guess everyone up there lives in igloos and spends the entire year snowshoeing around the mountains. Everybody is either a lumberjack, or a fur trapper, eh? And has a beard? Even the women, eh? You all spend your time fighting with the Quebecois separatists, don't you? Except of course the Quebecois separatists, who spend all their time fighting with everybody else, eh? And we all know that everyone who lives in Quebec is a separatist. Everybody calls everyone else "hoser" all the time, eh?

Do you think that sounds silly? Sorry, but it's what I've learned from watching Canadian television comedians and movies that take place in Canada. No offense to more enlightened Canadians, of course.

 

[bikerdruid]

Are you really ignorant - and prejudiced - enough to judge a whole state with a population of nearly 25 million by a few people you've met who work in the oil patch? I didn't expect that of anyone (well, hardly anyone) here at JREF.

Well, let me see. You live in Canada, don't you, eh? I guess everyone up there lives in igloos and spends the entire year snowshoeing around the mountains. Everybody is either a lumberjack, or a fur trapper, eh? And has a beard? Even the women, eh? You all spend your time fighting with the Quebecois separatists, don't you? Except of course the Quebecois separatists, who spend all their time fighting with everybody else, eh? And we all know that everyone who lives in Quebec is a separatist. Everybody calls everyone else "hoser" all the time, eh?

Do you think that sounds silly? Sorry, but it's what I've learned from watching movies that take place in Canada and Canadian television comedians. No offense to more enlightened Canadians, of course.

plain and simple.
someone elected rick perry.
someone keeps the executioners in texas busy.
sorry, but there must be a majority that see that as proper.

......actually, i know many 'lumberjacks and trappers' and the oil patch is the predominant industry in alberta.
i have met many texans...all rednecks.
......i have met more quebecois separatists than i have met federalists.
......and we have eight months of winter where i live.
.....your point?

please pardon the fact that i saw this as a good news thread.

 

[Elizabeth I]

plain and simple.
someone elected rick perry.
someone keeps the executioners in texas busy.
sorry, but there must be a majority that see that as proper.

......actually, i know many 'lumberjacks and trappers' and the oil patch is the predominant industry in alberta.
i have met many texans...all rednecks.
......i have met more quebecois separatists than i have met federalists.
......and we have eight months of winter where i live.
.....your point?

please pardon the fact that i saw this as a good news thread.

You and many others seem to take the stance that this is good news because it shows that not everyone in Texas is descended from the Kallikaks, although of course you think most of the population is. Thanks, we don't need your backhanded compliments.

I'm tired of dealing with close-minded people who refuse to even consider facts that contradict their stereotypical view of an entire enormous region of an enormous country. Just stay where you are, thanks. We can do without you.

Bye. Outathisthread.

 

[bikerdruid]

You and many others seem to take the stance that this is good news because it shows that not everyone in Texas is descended from the Kallikaks, although of course you think most of the population is. Thanks, we don't need your backhanded compliments.

I'm tired of dealing with close-minded people who refuse to even consider facts that contradict their stereotypical view of an entire enormous region of an enormous country. Just stay where you are, thanks. We can do without you.

Bye. Outathisthread.

wow.
so who do you suppose elected rick perry?

 

[RandFan]

Are you really ignorant - and prejudiced - enough to judge a whole state with a population of nearly 25 million by a few people you've met who work in the oil patch? I didn't expect that of anyone (well, hardly anyone) here at JREF.

Well, let me see. You live in Canada, don't you, eh? I guess everyone up there lives in igloos and spends the entire year snowshoeing around the mountains. Everybody is either a lumberjack, or a fur trapper, eh? And has a beard? Even the women, eh? You all spend your time fighting with the Quebecois separatists, don't you? Except of course the Quebecois separatists, who spend all their time fighting with everybody else, eh? And we all know that everyone who lives in Quebec is a separatist. Everybody calls everyone else "hoser" all the time, eh?

Do you think that sounds silly? Sorry, but it's what I've learned from watching Canadian television comedians and movies that take place in Canada. No offense to more enlightened Canadians, of course.

Well, to be fair to Canadians many have indoor plunbing and electricity and some have learned how to pronounce the letter "o" (from Canadian Bacon).

 

[RandFan]

wow.
so who do you suppose elected rick perry?

So an entire citizenry can be dismissed?

 

[bikerdruid]

Well, to be fair to Canadians many have indoor plunbing and electricity and some have learned how to pronounce the letter "o" (from Canadian Bacon).

i do not have indoor plumbing.
i live with solar power and wood heat.
and i am canadian.

 

[Vortigern99]

This is wonderful news. Because of their size and population Texas often influences the contents of text books for the entire rest of the country. This is a great turnaround and I hope it continues in the future.

Well said.

ETA: To everyone else, may I suggest we stay on topic?

 

[bikerdruid]

So an entire citizenry can be dismissed?

huh?
my point remains that there must be a large number of people in texas that have drakonian attitudes, else there would not be weekly executions and rick perry would not be governor.
liz can get as huffy as she wishes, but christian redneck texans must be more common that she wants to admit.

 

[Vortigern99]

Depends on how you choose to define "redneck", I guess, but yes, the majority population of this state is conservative Christians, as evinced by "our" elected representatives.

 

[RandFan]

huh?

Huh?

my point remains that there must be a large number of people in texas that have drakonian attitudes...

And most native Americans live in squalor and poverty. And?

Honestly I have no idea what what we are to think or do about your proposition. Do we hate all texans? Do we judge them immoral or evil? Do we make any attempt to view all this through the lens of social dynamics?

Plain and simple it looks like useless bigotry.

 

[bikerdruid]

Depends on how you choose to define "redneck", I guess, but yes, the majority population of this state is conservative Christians, as evinced by "our" elected representatives.

thankyou.
i was starting to think i was in the twilight zone.

 

[bikerdruid]

Huh?

And most native Americans live in squalor and poverty. And?

dude....most reservations are like third world colonies in north america.
i entered this thread by saying that the discardng of creation science by texan educators was a good thing, to be celebrated.
where in hell do you see that as 'hating all texans'?

texas is a stronghold of conservative christian thought.
are you going to argue that it is not?

 

[RandFan]

dude....most reservations are like third world colonies in north america.

And? For goodness sakes, do you only state premises or do you ever find a conclusion?

i entered this thread by saying that the discardng of creation science by texan educators was a good thing, to be celebrated.
where in hell do you see that as 'hating all texans'?

In nearly everyone of your posts.

texas is a stronghold of conservative christian thought.
are you going to argue that it is not?

No, AND? For crying in the dark, can you get some place?

How are you different than the racist Magz who likes to constantly state that blacks have high illiteracy and illegitimacy rates?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=7399302#post7399302

 

[RandFan]

thankyou.
i was starting to think i was in the twilight zone.

I'm beginning to think that Magz isn't the only bigot on JREF.

 

[bikerdruid]

And? For goodness sakes, do you only state premises or do you ever find a conclusion?

In nearly everyone of your posts.

No, AND? For crying in the dark, can you get some place?

How are you different than the racist Magz who likes to constantly state that blacks have high illiteracy and illegitimacy rates?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=7399302#post7399302

wow.
mental masturbation is not my thing....carry on.

 

[bikerdruid]

i believe that this thread is reporting good news for the people of texas.
to all who see this as an insult to texans, i am sorry for your mis-perception.
that is all......

 

[Vortigern99]

Except for Bikerdruid's first "scary thought" post, to my mind his posts on this topic have been fair and reasoned. He admits his exposure to our culture and people is limited:

yes i did.
however, with the numerous threads about rick perry, and the fact that executions happen regularly, and having met many texan rednecks tin alberta's oil industry, i don't have much of a positive exposure to texan culture.
sorry, but that is the 'image from afar'.
i'm pleased when ever i see something that rattles the paradigm.
no offense is intended to more enlightened texans.

And admittedly, though I tend to have a kneejerk reaction to people expressing contempt for Texas conservatism and "redneck" culture, the greater percentage of the population of this state is in its many hundreds of small towns, which almost by definition are comprised of fundamentalists.

My main point has been that that's not all the state is comprised of. We also have masses of the non-religious, and even our numerous religious people can be tolerant, open-minded and kind-hearted, believe it or not.

 

[RandFan]

wow.
mental masturbation is not my thing....carry on.

I think you should look in the mirror. Then again, I suspect the truth is that you've finally seen the light and now need a convenient side step. I think others need to decide if it was well played or not.