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Leslie Flint

Gord_in_Toronto said:
It's a pity that no one thought to take any infrared pictures at one of his seances. I, for one, would love to see an "[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]ectoplasmic voice box". ;) [/FONT]
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There are photos of this phenonema available and Leslie was subjected to very tight controls and tests and many witnesses:)
 
Js1981 said:
Hi Guys

Can you share any knowledge and Randi' point of view on Leslie Flint.

I came across his name while trying to understand logic behing Zammit and his test that something that doesn't exist must be proven that in fact it doesn't exist- obviously he is pretty nutts.

Flint is the most searched direct voice medium and noone managed to debunked him. While his seanses he was awake and agreed on many experiments.
There are tapes from his seanses and the most strange thing is that those voices haven't changed over years.

Can someone share some knowlede with me please? The only one explanation I came across is that he is blamed for mass hypnosis which still doesn't justify existing of those tapes.

Thanks - j.s
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As others have noted, it is very difficult to judge incidents that happened decades ago.

However, if you compare the mentioned feats with what the better stage magicians do, and which is also often recorded, even on TV, I think you will find that it is not standing out in any way.

As for specific feats, which you say are documented, well to comment we need to review the documentation. Basically, in my line of work (pharmaceuticals), if you cannot produce the documentation, it didn't happen.

In this context, if the documentation is not available for review, the evidence is anecdotical.

Hans
 
Js1981 said:
Because he passed a very simple test:
He had a pink liquid in his mouth, mouth was taped and after the recording he spat the liquid out. It is actually documented.
That is why I am refering to the phenomenon as 'his way'. The voice didn't come through him as other medium pretende to be in trance(zammit' boy). Yet the voice is being able to interact with scientists who participated in the sittings.
I bet it was a Radio or something. Couldn't be trap door and actors as he did same thing ina circle with strangers.
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That's nothin'. I saw Penn & Teller shoot one another simultaneously on stage and they both caught the bullets in their mouths.
 
Js1981 said:
Because he passed a very simple test:
He had a pink liquid in his mouth, mouth was taped and after the recording he spat the liquid out. It is actually documented.
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In 1947 this trick was performed at the Kingsway Hall in London by William Roy, a hugely successful English medium. His hands were tied to his chair, his mouth was filled with coloured water and sticking plaster was placed across his mouth. The lights were turned off and, much to the amazement of the audience, Roy somehow managed to produce spirit voices.

Five years later his assistant exposed him as a fraud. How was the "mouth full of water" trick performed? Simple: under cover of darkness Roy leaned over, loosened the sticking plaster with one tied hand and ejected the water through a rubber tube into a container hidden inside his jacket. After producing the voices Roy sucked up the water and smoothed the sticking plaster back into place.

Bearing in mind the fact that such effects were performed in darkness, I would suggest that Leslie Flint used the same modus operandi.
 
Just for the record, Chopin's father was French, and he was brought up speaking both French and Polish.
 
BobR said:
Just for the record, Chopin's father was French, and he was brought up speaking both French and Polish.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Now that you have posted this I can go home. :wackyrolleyes:
 
bonzo2 said:
There are photos of this phenonema available and Leslie was subjected to very tight controls and tests and many witnesses:)
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The quality of witnesses varies greatly.

I am oversimplifying a bit, but when investigating the classic medium-in-a-darkened-room shtick, unless your witness is a practiced stage magician, you really don't have anything.
 
Ladewig said:
The quality of witnesses varies greatly.

I am oversimplifying a bit, but when investigating the classic medium-in-a-darkened-room shtick, unless your witness is a practiced stage magician, you really don't have anything.
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More than a stage magician. A magician educated in the ways of the mediums and with defined access.
 
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