Moonbat alert: Chomksy condemns Bin Laden kill.

[Ziggurat]

wave hands all you wish.....the truth is that israel is a nasty, treacherous, murderous nation.

Wave your hands all you wish..... the truth is that you consistently side with Islamic terrorists (who would kill you because of your sexuality) against the most democratic country in the region (I'd say "only" but Turkey is still sort of a democracy), and the only one which doesn't criminalize you for who you are.

It's amazing how little sense of self-preservation some people have.

 

[WildCat]

that is certainly a damn good start.
israels history of aggression against her neighbours;

Explain this "history of aggression". I'm dying to hear how you're going to spin being attacked by Arabs armies from Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq etc as "Israeli aggression".

the recent over-reaction on its borders with syria, and the subsequent deaths of many syrian protestors;

So Israel is not allowed to defend its borders from hostile foreigners?

the murder of relief volunteers aboard the gazan relief ship and the continued expansions into palestinain territories, all clearly indicate the truth.

So you think the flotilla "protestors" had the right to attack Israeli soldiers armed with paintball guns with deadly weapons?

wave hands all you wish.....the truth is that israel is a nasty, treacherous, murderous nation.

By "the truth" you mean "the lie", correct?

This has to be one of your most dishonest posts ever, not that you and honesty have a close relationship.

 

[IDB87]

Still waiting...

Think we'll be waiting for a while..

So how are you?

 

[IDB87]

Explain this "history of aggression". I'm dying to hear how you're going to spin being attacked by Arabs armies from Egypt, Syria, Jorda, Iraq etc as "Israeli aggression".

Immigration = aggression.

So Israel is not allowed to defend its borders from hostile foreigners?

They're not 'foreigners' they're the locals, and they hate immigrants. Think of Gangs of New York, except no Bill the Butcher.

So you think the flotilla "protestors" had the right to attack Israeli soldiers armed with paintball guns with deadly weapons?

Don't you know? The Israeli death commandos had been firing on the MM with automatic weapons. It's the LEAST they could do!

By "the truth" you mean "the lie", correct?

Shades of gray, yada yada.

 

[bikerdruid]

Oh, I dunno. "Killing Jews is OK" is consistent.

please point out any post where anyone has ever said that.

 

[Pardalis]

What are your views on Syria, Libya and Iran?

What did you think of Saddam Hussein?

Hussein was a socialist, and was a fan of Stalin, so BD probably saw him as a good guy.

 

[bikerdruid]

Hussein was a socialist, and was a fan of Stalin, so BD probably saw him as a good guy.

dead wrong.
i think that stalin was a murderous tyrant.
saddam too, but there is absolutely no doubt that the average iraqi was much better off under saddam than they are now.

 

[Pardalis]

but there is absolutely no doubt that the average iraqi was much better off under saddam than they are now.

The Kurds and the Shia disagree with you.

 

[Resume]

, but there is absolutely no doubt that the average iraqi was much better off under saddam than they are now.

You might want to consult the "average" Iraqi.

More than the two of your aquaintance.

 

[Resume]

The Kurds and the Shia disagree with you.

As do the Assyrians, as some of the Iraqi christians call themselves.

 

[jiggeryqua]

there is absolutely no doubt that the average iraqi was much better off under saddam than they are now.

You might want to consult the "average" Iraqi.

More than the two of your aquaintance.

Alternatively, one or both of you could produce something more convincing than bald assertion.

And please, Resume, no recourse to 'his claim, his burden of proof'. You're free to dismiss his opinion, and say so, but you didn't, you provide an opposing claim with no attempt at evidence.

Carry on.

 

[bikerdruid]

You might want to consult the "average" Iraqi.

More than the two of your aquaintance.

As do the Assyrians, as some of the Iraqi christians call themselves.

Alternatively, one or both of you could produce something more convincing than bald assertion.

And please, Resume, no recourse to 'his claim, his burden of proof'. You're free to dismiss his opinion, and say so, but you didn't, you provide an opposing claim with no attempt at evidence.

Carry on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_End_in_Sight
if you have not seen this film, you should.

 

[Resume]

Alternatively, one or both of you could produce something more convincing than bald assertion.

And please, Resume, no recourse to 'his claim, his burden of proof'. You're free to dismiss his opinion, and say so, but you didn't, you provide an opposing claim with no attempt at evidence.

Carry on.

Okay dad.

 

[Pardalis]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_End_in_Sight
if you have not seen this film, you should.

A highly politicized documentary is your proof that people lived better under Saddam's thugocracy?

Seriously?

 

[bikerdruid]

A highly politicized documentary is your proof that people lived better under Saddam's thugocracy?

Seriously?

have you seen it, or read the commentary?
the interviews with military commanders are compelling

 

[Pardalis]

have you seen it, or read the commentary?
the interviews with military commanders are compelling

The documentary is from 2007. There was indeed an upsurge in sectarian and terrorist violence in 2006-2007. But what about 2011, now that violence has dropped?

 

[Resume]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_End_in_Sight
if you have not seen this film, you should.

And you should speak with the Iraqis that work for me. Of the two dozen or so I've had the pleasure of knowing for the past 25 years, not a single one had a good word for Uncle Saddam. As a matter of fact, every single one wanted to pull the lever and send him off.

Just about 20 or 30 opinions, not worth much as a poll, but very compelling as well.

 

[bikerdruid]

And you should speak with the Iraqis that work for me. Of the two dozen or so I've had the pleasure of knowing for the past 25 years, not a single one had a good word for Uncle Saddam. As a matter of fact, every single one wanted to pull the lever and send him off.

Just about 20 or 30 opinions, not worth much as a poll, but very compelling as well.

this is not about saddam, but about the american fiasco that followed the invasion, destroyed iraqi culture, creating 100,000 unemployed soldiers that became the insurgency, (of necessity), the destruction and theft of world historical treasures and the deaths of hundreds of thousands of iraquis.

 

[Pardalis]

this is not about saddam, but about the american fiasco that followed the invasion, destroyed iraqi culture, creating 100,000 unemployed soldiers that became the insurgency, (of necessity), the destruction and theft of world historical treasures and the deaths of hundreds of thousands of iraquis.

moving the goalposts.

Your claim:

there is absolutely no doubt that the average iraqi was much better off under saddam than they are now.

Now you're saying it's not about Saddam?

The question is simple, are the Iraqis of 2011 better off without him or not?

 

[IDB87]

The question is simple, are the Iraqis of 2011 better off without him or not?

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Define 'off'