Materialism (championed by Darwinists) makes reason Impossible.

Yet another thread has descended into farce. The quality of the woos here has gone downhill.
 
dafydd said:
Yet another thread has descended into farce. The quality of the woos here has gone downhill.
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I am puzzled here. Shall we interpret this as "the woo has got so thick as to be farcical" , or "the woo is so simplistic and unthoughtful as to be qualitatively farcical" or as "there is not enough woo, please more !".

And how can something very bad and "bunk" to begin with can even go downhill ? Fall deeper ?

:D
 
punshhh said:
Life is a fish leaping for pleasure.
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No,it's a flea leaping up to have lunch on a dog. It's a cat getting it's tail caught in a revolving door. It's a whale with a rubber chicken stuck in its blowhole,it's.....,well,you get my drift. In the world of mysticism you make it up as you go along.
 
lemurien said:
Thought games.
My question to you is: What is the use of these musings?
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I am referring to a thought construct I use(along with many others) when contemplating the nature of existence, reality, self etc.

You see there is something curious about existence, when you examine it, it appears not to be what it at first appears to be. What it appears to be when examined turns out to be one thing* acting out the appearance of many things.
This begs various questions.

Science is great at learning about (and applying that learning) the tangible world of matter and energy.

However if one is interested in the questions begged above you must look elswhere.

*energy whatever that is.
 
punshhh said:
I am referring to a thought construct I use(along with many others) when contemplating the nature of existence, reality, self etc.

You see there is something curious about existence, when you examine it, it appears not to be what it at first appears to be. What it appears to be when examined turns out to be one thing* acting out the appearance of many things.
This begs various questions.

Science is great at learning about (and applying that learning) the tangible world of matter and energy.

However if one is interested in the questions begged above you must look elswhere.

*energy whatever that is.
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And that is why you need to read, there are four kinds of energy at the temperatures we see mostly around us.

Electromagnetic, weak , strong and gravity are the forces

bosons, leptons, fermions and quarks seem to be the way they manifest.

At what it all is in the end is *unknown* at this time, there are some great theories, some many be demonstrated some may not. We do not know what GUT will show.
 
punshhh said:
*energy whatever that is.
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Energy isn't a type of thing--it's a capability.

Given two sorts of things, X which we know is energy, and Y which is some other thing that can be used to do work on a physical system, then Y is necessarily energy, even though it's a different sort of thing, because it has the capability; and if a certain amount of Y converts to a certain amount of X, then that amount of X will convert back to the corresponding amount of Y. The conversion conservation doesn't require X and Y to be "made of the same kind of stuff"; it works this way simply if the conversion process is time symmetric in this fashion.

This has been explained to you multiple times before; all I can do is explain it different ways until you get it. I ask for your cooperation in attempting to understand this point.
 
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