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bikerdruid said:
not at all...
i merely provided clarification for those who, consciously or unconsciously, miss the obvious in my posts.
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bikerdruid said:
i am always 'anti-war'....always.
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What's obvious from your posts is that you contradicted yourself. Your defense now appears to be that we should have known you weren't serious about the highlighted part.

i do support the struggle of the palestinian people against the oppressive and murderous israeli government.
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And what, exactly, do you think that struggle consists of? Please, enlighten us. Because it sure as hell looks to me like this "struggle" consists primarily of terrorist attacks. So I'm having a hard time viewing your statement as being 'anti-war', let along anything other than support for terrorism.
 
bikerdruid said:
i do support the struggle of the palestinian people against the oppressive and murderous israeli government.
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Those damned Jews, how dare they fight back against attempts to exterminate them!

If only they had an enlightened form of government, like the ones the Palestinians keep voting for. :boggled:
 
Ziggurat said:
What's obvious from your posts is that you contradicted yourself. Your defense now appears to be that we should have known you weren't serious about the highlighted part.



And what, exactly, do you think that struggle consists of? Please, enlighten us. Because it sure as hell looks to me like this "struggle" consists primarily of terrorist attacks. So I'm having a hard time viewing your statement as being 'anti-war', let along anything other than support for terrorism.
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bikerdruid wants it both ways, claiming he's anti-war while supporting terrorist attacks against non-combatants.
 
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Bikerdruid:

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i am always 'anti-war'....always.
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i do support the struggle of the palestinian people against the oppressive and murderous israeli government.
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Please choose one of the two options, or define what you mean by struggle. The Palestinians are 'struggling' against Israel via Hamas through low-intensity warfare and terrorism.
 
WildCat said:
bikerdruid wants it both ways, claiming he's anti-war while supporting terrorist attacks against non-combatants.
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I suspect he's also ignorant of what happened to the socialists in the Iranian revolution.
 
bikerdruid said:
like i said earlier, israel has killed many, multiples more palestinians than the reverse.
actions speak much louder than words.
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That speaks nothing of anything. How many Germans did Canada kill in WWII? How many Canadians did Germany kill?

I guess this means Canada is a murderous oppressive regime, yes? Or maybe the premise your simplistic ideology demands is fatally flawed.
 
WildCat said:
I wasn't aware I made that claim.

Perhaps you can quote my post which made you jump to that conclusion?
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no thanks, I politely decline your invitation to be distracted from the factthat you want to whine about people supporting Hamas on this forum and yet can't seem to provide any examples...

like to try again?
 
The Fool said:
no thanks, I politely decline your invitation to be distracted from the factthat you want to whine about people supporting Hamas on this forum and yet can't seem to provide any examples...

like to try again?
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When was I whining about people on this forum supporting Hamas? :confused:

I've certainly said some here (you for instance) support Hamas getting a seaport, but I really think you have the cognitive dissonance required to believe this isn't helping Hamas get heavy weapons, and therefore you aren't supporting Hamas.
 
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WildCat said:
It's been mentioned to you before that instance also, so that's at least 3 times now. So far you have refused to address the question, I guess you fear examining your quasi-religious beliefs.

Maybe you'll surprise me and engage in thoughtful discussion, but I doubt it.
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Gonna have to join you in your state of doubt.
 
The Fool said:
no thanks, I politely decline your invitation to be distracted from the factthat you want to whine about people supporting Hamas on this forum and yet can't seem to provide any examples...

like to try again?
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So awarding a group the title 'freedom fighters' is an act of non-support?
 
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WildCat said:
That speaks nothing of anything. How many Germans did Canada kill in WWII? How many Canadians did Germany kill?

I guess this means Canada is a murderous oppressive regime, yes? Or maybe the premise your simplistic ideology demands is fatally flawed.
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It's like arguing with a looped tape recording. You keep looking for the consistent logical principle, but you're not going to find it because it's not there. The only real question is how many times you're going to go through the loop before giving up.
 
trustbutverify said:
So awarding a group the title 'freedom fighters' is an act of non-support?
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what is your definition of support? As far as I see it is simply not matching some undefined standard of vitriol when mentioning them.

Early Jewish groups like Urgun, Lehi and the stern gang can be labeled freedom fighters yet if you called them that are you a supporter of terrorism because of some of the acts they performed???
 
Ziggurat said:
Well, I for one already gave you some questions which you haven't responded to but which I'd like answered.
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Minor Pedantry: It was one question..."And what, exactly, do you think that struggle [of the palestinian people against the oppressive and murderous israeli government] consists of?"
 
The Fool said:
no thanks, I politely decline your invitation to be distracted from the factthat you want to whine about people supporting Hamas on this forum and yet can't seem to provide any examples...

like to try again?
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Is it that you honestly can't think of any examples? Or are you just trolling to get someone to personalize the arguments again?
 
The Fool said:
what is your definition of support? As far as I see it is simply not matching some undefined standard of vitriol when mentioning them.

Early Jewish groups like Urgun, Lehi and the stern gang can be labeled freedom fighters yet if you called them that are you a supporter of terrorism because of some of the acts they performed???
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The words we choose to apply to individuals and groups are a function of how we feel about them. You know this. We all use words and labels as rewards to those we support and weapons against those we don't.

If i refer to Urgun as freedom fighters it almost certainly means that I identify with and support them. If I use the label terrorist it's the opposite.

If i ask someone if they would vote for a political party which was deeply racist against jews and advocated genocidal policies against them- if they also advocated economic policies that person loved, and they answered "I'm not sure.", well- to me that's a powerful indicator about where that person is coming from.
 
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