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Merged Is ufology a pseudoscience?

...considering any definition of pseudoscience will contain the phrase “without scientific foundation”, the ability to successfully apply scientific methodology certainly does prevent something from being a pseudoscience.
No, it doesn't.

For example, TV ghost hunters often selectively apply scientific methodology and equipment to measure electromagnetic fields, but that certainly doesn't "prevent" them from practicing pseudoscience. The moment they jump from an objective measurement of a physical phenomenon to an unfounded assumption of "ghosts," they depart the world of science en route to the magical land of woo. Same goes for the ufologists who use the trappings of science to justify their extraordinary, unfounded claims about UFOs.

Misapplying the equipment, language, and/or techniques of science without full, rigorous adherence to proper scientific methodology, critical thinking, peer review and testing, is the very definition of "pseudoscience."

Ufology does not rule out the application of science toward the advancement of knowledge within the field.
Then it's a pseudoscience.

If ufology were a science there would be no question of "ruling out the application of science." It would just be done according to the scientific method as a matter of course.

Hypotheses would be specific and falsifiable, would minimize unfounded assumptions, and be formulated in accordance with well-established scientific data. Experiments would be designed according to proven methodology and logical reasoning. Results would be carefully measured and analyzed. In case of anomalous or unusual results, rigorous testing would be conducted to rule out methodological flaws or other errors. Before publication, all findings would be evaluated and challenged by peer review, and experimental results would be retested by independent researchers afterward.
 
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Misapplying the equipment, language, and/or techniques of science without full, rigorous adherence to proper scientific methodology, critical thinking, peer review and testing, is the very definition of "pseudoscience."


Actually you don't have it quite right there. You are missing a key element. Just because something isn't science doesn't automatically mean it's pseudoscience. To qualify as pseudoscience, something must first be presented as being actual science. Ufology on the whole does no such thing. I certainly don't and neither does my group, which has been around over 20 years and has over 2000 members in 22 countries. Maybe you could quote a few well recognized ufologists who claim ufology is in and of itself science. I'm having a hard time finding any.

In a Google quoted search for "ufology is science" I got 9 ( nine ) results. A search for UFOs returned 21,600,000 results. So we have nine out of 21.6 million UFO related webpages that say "ufology is science", and out of those, they are mostly repeats from an obscure discussion thread. This is in no way representative of a consensus among ufologists that ufology is a science, therefore labeling it as pseudoscience is faulty logic ... perhaps even pseudoskepticism.

What we do claim to support ( at least within our group ) is the concept of critical thinking, which is quite different and may make use of whatever evidence, information, and methodology is at our disposal. We also believe that when hard science is being done with respect to ufology, then science is taking place, but even that does not make ufology a science in and of itself. It just means that genuine physics or biology or some hard science is being applied to the study of the subject matter.

The whole debate about whether or not ufology is a science is a distraction that serves little purpose. Dare I propose that rather than pointlessly pitting our intellects agianst each other, that we use those good brains we have to move us closer to the truth about what UFOs actually are.

j.r.
 
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To qualify as pseudoscience, something must first be presented as being actual science. Ufology on the whole does no such thing.
I do hope this thread isn't going to turn into another nitpicking/semantics thread.
UFOlogy often presented it's self as having undergone some sort of scientific analysis of reports before the UFOlogists pre-determined results are offered.

Maybe you could quote a few well recognized ufologists who claim ufology is in and of itself science. I'm having a hard time finding any.
Simply put, they don't usually make such obviously false claims, instead they use lab reports, geometrical analysis, photomeric analysis, line up a series of "experts" to validate their findings etc.

That's every single one of them (Bruce Macabee top of the list)... hopefully you are going to be the first we've met who doesn't operate in that manner. Lots of people here who have a long interest in UFOs are used to seeing UFOlogists presenting a half cocked investigation which will inevitably find the conclusion they want instead of looking at the evidence and seeing where it takes them.

The whole debate about whether or not ufology is a science is a distraction that serves little purpose. Dare I propose that rather than pointlessly pitting our intellects agianst each other, that we use those good brains we have to move us closer to the truth about what UFOs actually are.

j.r.
As I said earlier, I can't wait for you to start presenting some cases for us to look at (in the proper moderated thread). :)
 
I do hope this thread isn't going to turn into another nitpicking/semantics thread.
UFOlogy often presented it's self as having undergone some sort of scientific analysis of reports before the UFOlogists pre-determined results are offered.

Simply put, they don't usually make such obviously false claims, instead they use lab reports, geometrical analysis, photomeric analysis, line up a series of "experts" to validate their findings etc.

That's every single one of them (Bruce Macabee top of the list)... hopefully you are going to be the first we've met who doesn't operate in that manner. Lots of people here who have a long interest in UFOs are used to seeing UFOlogists presenting a half cocked investigation which will inevitably find the conclusion they want instead of looking at the evidence and seeing where it takes them.

As I said earlier, I can't wait for you to start presenting some cases for us to look at (in the proper moderated thread). :)


We seem to be making some progress here, but when we are trying to determine whether or not something falls into one definition or another, semantics is the game we're playing. Subtle differences can make all the difference and can not simply be dismissed.

Again, ufology makes no claim to being science in and of itself. Therefore it is neither science nor pseudoscience. Ufology does advocate critical thinking, which is something different and can make use of whatever evidence is at hand, including lab reports, geometrical analysis, photomeric analysis, experts or whatever else may be useful. In fact, it would be irresponsible to ignore data without just cause, so why would you want to do that?

Lastly, I think you presume too much when you say that ufologists begin an investigation with a foregone conclusion. I have over 1000 books in my ufology library ( including some skeptical works ) and I've talked with hundreds of people. I don't see any case studies that began on the presumption that they were dealing with an alien spacecraft. I do see case studies that have reached probable conclusions after the evidence ( whatever that may be ) has been examined.

In my experience it isn't the ufologist who has drawn the conclusion beforehand, but the witness. When they are sure that what they saw was some sort of alien craft, thieir stories are not usually vague. Most of them know the difference between something natural or manmade and something obviously beyond what Earth technology has accomplished, especially at the dawn of the modern age of ufology.

j.r.
 
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Actually you don't have it quite right there. You are missing a key element. Just because something isn't science doesn't automatically mean it's pseudoscience. To qualify as pseudoscience, something must first be presented as being actual science. Ufology on the whole does no such thing. I certainly don't and neither does my group, which has been around over 20 years and has over 2000 members in 22 countries. Maybe you could quote a few well recognized ufologists who claim ufology is in and of itself science. I'm having a hard time finding any.


Your membership in a UFO/alien believers club really isn't support for "ufology" being or not being presented as science. But you've got to admit, disavowing science is an easy out when real skeptics or scientists ask you to support your belief with evidence. :)

In a Google quoted search for "ufology is science" I got 9 ( nine ) results. A search for UFOs returned 21,600,000 results. So we have nine out of 21.6 million UFO related webpages that say "ufology is science", and out of those, they are mostly repeats from an obscure discussion thread. This is in no way representative of a consensus among ufologists that ufology is a science, therefore labeling it as pseudoscience is faulty logic ... perhaps even pseudoskepticism.


The word "bacteriology" get over 5 million Google hits. "Bacteriology is science" gets 2 hits. So bacteriology isn't science. "Physiology" gets almost 72 million hits. "Physiology is science" gets barely more than 100. Looks like physiology isn't science, either.

Oh, "ufology is pseudoscience" gets 26 hits, lending almost three times the validity to the notion that it is, indeed, pseudoscience.

That is, of course, if you want to pursue that silly line of logic.

What we do claim to support ( at least within our group ) is the concept of critical thinking, which is quite different and may make use of whatever evidence, information, and methodology is at our disposal. We also believe that when hard science is being done with respect to ufology, then science is taking place, but even that does not make ufology a science in and of itself. It just means that genuine physics or biology or some hard science is being applied to the study of the subject matter.

The whole debate about whether or not ufology is a science is a distraction that serves little purpose. Dare I propose that rather than pointlessly pitting our intellects agianst each other, that we use those good brains we have to move us closer to the truth about what UFOs actually are.


So again, how you would go about doing that? What can you offer aside from suggesting skeptics should lower their standards of evidence or raise their credulity? Other than blaming skeptics and legitimate science for the failings of the "ufologists", what positive steps would you suggest the alien believers take to repair their flawed methodology?
 
In a Google quoted search for "ufology is science" I got 9 ( nine ) results. A search for UFOs returned 21,600,000 results. So we have nine out of 21.6 million UFO related webpages that say "ufology is science", and out of those, they are mostly repeats from an obscure discussion thread. This is in no way representative of a consensus among ufologists that ufology is a science, therefore labeling it as pseudoscience is faulty logic ... perhaps even pseudoskepticism.

Wow. Argument by Google search is bad enough, but it's even worse when you fail at it completely. A little hint - if you want to search for things about "ufology", searching for "UFOs" isn't going to help. As it turns out, there are actually only 890,000 results for "ufology". There are 393,000 for "ufology is science" without the quotes, many of which consist of people claiming that ufology is, in fact, science, just not necessarily including the words in that exact order.

What we do claim to support ( at least within our group ) is the concept of critical thinking

You also claim UFOs are aliens. From the "About USI page:
Most importantly, USI stands with all those people who honestly know from the evidence of their own conscious and unimpaired senses, that Earth is being visited by objects of alien origin.
So yeah, I'd say your claim to support critical thinking is about as accurate as the rest of your claims.

The whole debate about whether or not ufology is a science is a distraction that serves little purpose.

You keep making comments like this. Once again, if you don't want to discuss the subject of this thread then stop bloody posting in it and go and post on topics that you are interested in.
 
Lastly, I think you presume too much when you say that ufologists begin an investigation with a foregone conclusion. I have over 1000 books in my ufology library ( including some skeptical works ) and I've talked with hundreds of people. I don't see any case studies that began on the presumption that they were dealing with an alien spacecraft. I do see case studies that have reached probable conclusions after the evidence ( whatever that may be ) has been examined.

In my experience it isn't the ufologist who has drawn the conclusion beforehand, but the witness. When they are sure that what they saw was some sort of alien craft, thieir stories are not usually vague. Most of them know the difference between something natural or manmade and something obviously beyond what Earth technology has accomplished, especially at the dawn of the modern age of ufology.


Maybe if "ufology" wasn't so quick to abandon science, its proponents wouldn't be so quick to make such ridiculous claims. More support for the notion that "ufology" is pseudoscience? No wait, that's right, since you disavow science it can't be pseudoscience. :)

And just exactly what is the "modern age of ufology" and what makes this the dawn of it? In your insistence that semantics is important and...

We seem to be making some progress here, but when we are trying to determine whether or not something falls into one definition or another, semantics is the game we're playing. Subtle differences can make all the difference and can not simply be dismissed.


... you haven't really been able to specify what "ufology" is. It's not science. It's not pseudoscience. It seems to be a bunch of people who believe in aliens who swap stories about UFOs. Is that about the gist of it?
 
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Your membership in a UFO/alien believers club really isn't support for "ufology" being or not being presented as science. But you've got to admit, disavowing science is an easy out when real skeptics or scientists ask you to support your belief with evidence. :)

The word "bacteriology" get over 5 million Google hits. "Bacteriology is science" gets 2 hits. So bacteriology isn't science. "Physiology" gets almost 72 million hits. "Physiology is science" gets barely more than 100. Looks like physiology isn't science, either.

Oh, "ufology is pseudoscience" gets 26 hits, lending almost three times the validity to the notion that it is, indeed, pseudoscience.

That is, of course, if you want to pursue that silly line of logic.

So again, how you would go about doing that? What can you offer aside from suggesting skeptics should lower their standards of evidence or raise their credulity? Other than blaming skeptics and legitimate science for the failings of the "ufologists", what positive steps would you suggest the alien believers take to repair their flawed methodology?


I respect that you did your own online search, but the logic you are using is a touch off. Everybody knows bacteriology is science so there is no need to question it, therefore it's not surprising the hits would be low. On the other hand the claim is being made that ufologists are claiming ufology is science, which is contentious and therefore, if the assertion that the claim is being made is true, a search should provide plenty of results ... it doesn't.

Regarding the "believer's club" crack. The title of the interest group is on my avatar. Nowhere does it say "believer" or "club".

And once more, ufology does not "disavow" science any more than critical thinking "disavows" science. It's just that, like critical thinking, it doesn't claim to be science. So it's not a matter of "convenience", it's a matter of fact. Some skeptics however seem to be slapping the "pseudoscience label" on it as if to paint a target for credibility assassination. That may be a useful exercise for newbie skeptics who need to practise their debating skills, and I've facilitated that process with respect here. But part of being a respected skeptic also means you need to show respect ... and if you must consider it as a contest or argument, demonstrate grace in defeat.

j.r.
 
The whole debate about whether or not ufology is a science is a distraction that serves little purpose. Dare I propose that rather than pointlessly pitting our intellects agianst each other, that we use those good brains we have to move us closer to the truth about what UFOs actually are.

j.r.


They're objects which have the appearance of flying but can't be identified.

Really, truly.

Anything else you need help with?
 
We seem to be making some progress here,
Yes, that's exctly what Rramjet keeps saying just before he throws another dirty nappy at the wall to see if it sticks. :D

but when we are trying to determine whether or not something falls into one definition or another, semantics is the game we're playing. Subtle differences can make all the difference and can not simply be dismissed.
UFOlogy is often presented as having scientific validity. How does that sound?

Again, ufology makes no claim to being science in and of itself. Therefore it is neither science nor pseudoscience. Ufology does advocate critical thinking, which is something different and can make use of whatever evidence is at hand, including lab reports, geometrical analysis, photomeric analysis, experts or whatever else may be useful. In fact, it would be irresponsible to ignore data without just cause, so why would you want to do that?
I'm not advocating ignoring critical data. I'm saying that in order for the data usually presented by the likes of Maccabee, it is not critical, in fact it is usually highly spurious. When "experts" such as Dilettoso are brought in to verify and endorse footage (that can usually easily be shown to have flaws), when people can pass off hoaxed alien autopsy footage through every major UFOlogist working, there is no critical thinking going on.

Lastly, I think you presume too much when you say that ufologists begin an investigation with a foregone conclusion. I have over 1000 books in my ufology library ( including some skeptical works ) and I've talked with hundreds of people. I don't see any case studies that began on the presumption that they were dealing with an alien spacecraft. I do see case studies that have reached probable conclusions after the evidence ( whatever that may be ) has been examined.
Then you are not a critical thinker.
UFOlogists want there to be aliens from outer space. Someone reports something and the UFOlogists take their word for it instead of looking critically at the report... Then of course, they go on to write many books that end up on the shelves of other UFologists, who in turn use those books to validate their own beliefs.

In my experience it isn't the ufologist who has drawn the conclusion beforehand, but the witness.
Again not usually true (there are exceptions).
Most people report UFO's (that's Unidentified flying objects), the UFOlogist then routinely rules out things he can think of (limited options only) and then claims the only thing left is aliens.

When they are sure that what they saw was some sort of alien craft, thieir stories are not usually vague. Most of them know the difference between something natural or manmade and something obviously beyond what Earth technology has accomplished, especially at the dawn of the modern age of ufology.
And yet so many of these people who "know" the difference between Earth tech and Alien tech are often shown to be wrong.
http://www.csicop.org/si/show/campeche_mexico_infrared_ufo_video/
 
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I respect that you did your own online search, but the logic you are using is a touch off. Everybody knows bacteriology is science so there is no need to question it, therefore it's not surprising the hits would be low. On the other hand the claim is being made that ufologists are claiming ufology is science, which is contentious and therefore, if the assertion that the claim is being made is true, a search should provide plenty of results ... it doesn't.


Your demonstrated lack of qualification to use Google to support your argument is noted.

Regarding the "believer's club" crack. The title of the interest group is on my avatar. Nowhere does it say "believer" or "club".


From the ISI web site...

ISI Web Site said:
Acronym for Ufology Society International. USI was created in 1989 by J. Randall Murphy in Calgary Canada for the purpose of providing easy access to UFO related information, and over the long term, to help establish the truth regarding alien visitation to planet Earth.

So "UFO/alien believers club" it is! :)

And once more, ufology does not "disavow" science any more than critical thinking "disavows" science. It's just that, like critical thinking, it doesn't claim to be science. So it's not a matter of "convenience", it's a matter of fact. Some skeptics however seem to be slapping the "pseudoscience label" on it as if to paint a target for credibility assassination.


The typical approach to investigation among those who are engaging in "ufology" is to attempt to support their belief that UFOs/aliens are visiting the Earth.

That may be a useful exercise for newbie skeptics who need to practise their debating skills, and I've facilitated that process with respect here. But part of being a respected skeptic also means you need to show respect ... and if you must consider it as a contest or argument, demonstrate grace in defeat.


The OP asked the question, "Is ufology a pseudoscience?" Nothing offered in this discussion so far suggests it isn't pseudoscience. It appears to be a reasonable way to describe it. The failure, so far, is on the part of those trying to support the notion that it isn't.
 
You also claim UFOs are aliens. From the "About USI page:

If you look at the "Extraterrestrial tab", you get the following statement:


In ufology, the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis ( ETH ) theorizes that UFOs come from outer space and probably originate on another planet. However most UFOs are more accurately explained as shuttles that have been dispatched from a mother ship near the Earth.

Additionally, UFO is proposed to be redefined as:

ufo
u • f • o ( plural ufos ) noun

advanced, intelligent, or intelligently controlled, highly motile entities or craft of non-human, extraterrestrial origin.



Sort of makes a statement of fact that they are indeed ET craft. I have a problem with the idea that this organization is promoting scientific thinking when it makes these kinds of bold proclamations. IMO, this promotes UFOlogy as a pseudoscience by reaching a conclusion without having some really good (one might say extraordinary but that is another thread) evidence that supports that conclusion.
 
I think that unless ufology gets some extraordinary evidence like real interstellar space craft that can be examined or a ray gun or a body, it remains a pseudoscience.
 
OK. The topic of this thread is whether ufology is a pseudoscience (as defined by Wikipedia: "Pseudoscience is a claim, belief, or practice which is presented as scientific, but which does not adhere to a valid scientific method, lacks supporting evidence or plausibility, cannot be reliably tested, or otherwise lacks scientific status.").

I say ufology most definitely is a pseudoscience. Arguments to the contrary? :)

To the original question, using the above cite:

By this definition, any pursuit of knowledge (be it beetles or Betelgeuse), can be executed in a manner "which doest not adhere to a valid scientific method...."

The subject of inquiry has little to do with the character of the inquiry being scientific or not. One could investigate Unicorns scientifically, contrarily, one could also investigate the age of the earth unscientifically.

As an aside, I have to say that I were I interested in establishing discipline of study, I don't think I would have called it "Ufology".

It doesn't even sound credible.
:p
 
As an aside, I have to say that I were I interested in establishing discipline of study, I don't think I would have called it "Ufology".

Especially since it really narrows your field of research.

I personally like the anthropologists who have connected the stories of UFOs in modern media with stories of the Fair Folk, Nighthags, and similar beasties across multiple cultures.

I wish I could remember where I read it but I once saw an article where the anthropologist had tracked the fall in the number of reported cases of Nighthag or Witch attacks with a rise in reports of alien abductions. Fascinating stuff.
 
If you'll permit me to elaborate a little, I'll begin with a loose analogy. Ufology is sort of like birdwatching, it is an activity that can involve elements of science, but isn't really hard core ornithology, but we don't call birdwatching pseudoscience.

However if a birdwatcher has a sighting of some rare ( perhaps previously unknown or extinct ) bird, he or she may record the details and try to get a picture and maybe some trace evidence and take that to an ornithologist. When that happens, and the scientist is looking at the evidence, I think it is fair to say that science is taking place.

Sorry for butting in, but I was just sent a PM by ufology about whether or not birdwatching is a pseudoscience, and I would like to repost my reply here, with some elaboration, in an attempt to kill this analogy.

Birdwatching most certainly is scientific, in every aspect of the word. Not only does it rely entirely on scientifically collected data on distribution, habitat choice, food choice, migration patterns, sounds, behaviour, nest structure, moulting, size, colouration, community structure, population structure, and phylogeny of the birds, but birdwatching itself is nothing if not hypothesis testing writ large.

A bird guide is essentially a collection of hypotheses. Apart from what birds look and sound like, they will typically detail where you will find then, i what habitat, and when. Many will have notes on behaviour and so on. These are all well-founded hypotheses, which have been tested over and over again by professional ornithologists and amateur birdwatchers alike, and continue to be tested by both groups to this day. This is one reason why bird guides rarely are definite, unless they cover only a very small area such as a tropical island.

For instance, a hypothesis could be that a certain species of warbler breed in a certain mountain range, and that this warbler has a certain sound. An amateur birdwatcher could then go there and test this hypothesis by going to all parts of the range and listen. If the sounds are the same, they will have confirmed this hypothesis. If they differ, they will have challenged it, which in extreme cases could result in the two populations being split into different species. The thing is that this does not have to be a conscious test, but it is nonetheless a test.

Often, observational data on birds by amateur birdwatchers are formally reported in scientific journals such as Journal of Field Ornithology, Bird Banding, and the many national or regional journals (Forktail, Aquila, Anser, Ibis, The Auk, and so on). These journals are sometimes, but not always, subject to peer review (of the ones above, I think only Anser isn't). The data collected in these reports are then used in monographs and field guides. For instance, the first page of references in the Pica Press monograph on Nightjars cite 17 sources (out of 42) that are of this nature, and which describe very minor details and observations that are likely made by amateur birdwatchers or bird-banders.

This, you may claim, is just what you refer to as "take that to an ornithologist", but similar observational data is regularly posted on forums and very local journals -- or just discussed in the field -- with people who are not professional ornithologists, and if there is a large amount of observational data for something, it may be entered into field guides and monographs without ever having been "take[n] to an ornithologist". This is because apart from hypothesis testing, birdwatching is also data gathering. The methods may not be as strict as during a formal scientific study (i.e., you may estimate the number of stints on a mudflat rather than count then and break them down by age-structure), but it does constitute data gathering.

The same goes for cases which are aberrant. In Northern Europe, we could assume that vagrant birds that breed in the Mediterranean will occur here accidentally only in the spring and the autumn, when they migrate, and that the spring will be dominated by last year's birds that migrate to far on coming back from Africa, whereas the autumn will be dominated by the same year's birds that have a so called "reverse migration drive", and migrate in the wrong direction. We can test this by observational data, but this needs to be carried out by amateurs, as no professional would have the same amount of time as a horde of amateurs. In any case, even finding rare birds is hypothesis testing, and the hypotheses on which birds are vagrant in which areas when can be tested and challenged.

The kinds of birdwatching I usually do is scientific in another respect as well. I do population censuses and count everything I see and hear, and report this to a national database. We can then use this data to see population trends, and try to correlate this to the known ecology of the bird, and known (or unknown) changes in their environment. This is also what most bird banding is used for. We catch or observe birds and attempt to make an estimate (and good techniques for making this estimate have been developed) of the actual population number of a given species, then compare that with e.g. known weather patterns and temperatures in their breeding sites, and see if these can be correlated. The difference, in these cases, between birdwatching and "ornithology proper" is merely a matter of energy you put into it, and whether or not you can get paid to set up formal experiments, or if you have to be satisfied with observational data. From a scientific point of view, there is no difference, and there are certainly a lot of "proper" scientists who publish the same kind of studies as amateurs.

It could, perhaps, be argued that "twitching", that is traveling around looking at rare birds and trying to see as many bird species as possible in a year, could be unscientific, and this would be the closest thing you'd get to unscientific, I think (apart from people who just make things up). I don't think twitchers consider themselves as doing science, though, but rather just enjoying themselves and having a bit of a competition in a field that requires knowledge instead of physical strength, and that you can do at any time in any place. However, strictly speaking, they are still gathering data, if only for themselves, which will make pattern-spotting easier in the future, and more data on migration and distribution of rare birds can be obtained from their behaviour as well.

So to me, the bottom line is that birdwatching is hypothesis testing and data gathering about natural entities that are indisputably known to exist. This is not the case with ufology, which is more a form of wishful thinking.
 
I like your approach. I also agree with some of what you are saying. I do not endorse the presentation of spurious claims or data out of context, and I believe ufologists have a responsibility to point out when such data and claims are being over emphasized as "proof" when there is good reason to doubt it.
I'm glad you like my approach, and sorry for cutting out most of your reply but I think we've talked enough about things that have already happened and hopefully we both realise that mistakes have been made and UFOlogy as suffered in it's credibility because of the sheer amount of mistakes, misidentifications and hoaxes that have somehow slipped through the net because of sloppy work from the UFOlogists.

Perhaps it's time to start talking about workable methods for ensuring that the standard of research and evidence is raised for future reports/sightings.

Got any suggestions?
 
Two anecdotes about bird watching.

My father was an avid birdwatcher. He and other enthusiasts would participate in spring counts and Christmas counts, etc.. This is when whole groups of people would go out on a single day or weekend. They would be assigned specific geographic areas and then they would report their findings.

My father had a friend who participated in these activities, and he always reported seeing wild exotic birds that no one else saw or reported. Always. He was not a dishonest person. He was a reliable member of society, but there was some kink about him that made him report things that he most likely did not see.

Similarly, naturalist Fran Hamerstrom, who was instrumental in saving the Prairie Chicken from extinction, told a story about how people can be easily influenced. The Hamerstroms employed a vast number of volunteers who would sit in blinds during the pre-dawn hours to record the behaviors and number of birds.

One day, she happened to mention to the volunteers that she had seen a wolf one morning in the distant past. That day, a large number of volunteers reported seeing a wolf while they were observing the Prairie Chickens. No volunteer had ever reported seeing a wolf before she mentioned that she had seen one, and she never mentioned seeing a wolf again and no volunteer ever reported seeing a wolf again.

Dedicated bird watchers can be unreliable. The large number of them and the large amount of data tend to even out the outliers.

This is why reports of the Ivory Billed Woodpecker have not been generally accepted by science. It is an extraordinary claim. Not as extraordinary as an extra-terrestrial ship, because we know the Ivory Bill did exist in the past and it's possible that it still might. But it's still extraordinary and as we know, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

When it comes to UFOs every claim is extraordinary. There are rarely unexplained mass sightings. But there are individual sightings from reliable upstanding citizens who want to help. Just like the wolf spotters and my dad's friend who saw exotic birds in the middle of the lonley prairie.

That's it,
Ward
 
Ufology (the subject, not the poster) is most certainly not science. However, it is pseudoscience: "a claim, belief, or practice which is presented as scientific, but which does not adhere to a valid scientific method, lacks supporting evidence or plausibility, cannot be reliably tested, or otherwise lacks scientific status.".

I still don't get how ufology (the poster) argues against this.

He doesn't have to. It's on YOU to prove that ufology does not adhere to a valid scientific method, lacks supporting evidence/plausibility, cannot be reliably tested or lacks scientific status.

Your claim, your burden of proof. Especially since there is copious amounts of evidence that each of your stated assumptions is wrong.
 

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