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The Shrike
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Nope anyone fluent in classical Spanish could serve as the interpreter, unless it was one of those Cajun bigfoots.
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So, let me see if I have this correct: they're saying the "Bigfoot" DNA they have collected is human. So now, any human DNA they find in the woods, on a barbed wire fence, or on someones front porch can be claimed as Bigfoot DNA? That makes it really easy to "find Bigfoot" almost anywhere doesn't it? 
So, let me see if I have this correct: they're saying the "Bigfoot" DNA they have collected is human. So now, any human DNA they find in the woods, on a barbed wire fence, or on someones front porch can be claimed as Bigfoot DNA? That makes it really easy to "find Bigfoot" almost anywhere doesn't it?
That is why it is genius.
And it's not so far from the truth. The legendary Sasquatches described by the NW tribes were just humans of enemy tribes. The hoaxers and liars and hallucinators are humans. So that is much of sum of the "evidence." The zagnut monster was a human. The Silver Star and Marble Mountain and Frazier River figures were humans.
There is a residual of some misidentified bears, plus all the coyote, owl and other animal noises.
In sum, much if not most of the "Bigfoot" "evidence" is of human origin. Bigfoot is human, in a real sense. But not different from other humans.
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William Parcher
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Why couldn't these tribes have purely imaginary bogeymen just like we do?
You seem to be saying that NAs told no lies, they were just mistaken or aggrandizers.
The Shrike
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They could, but "involuntary adoption" was a relatively common practice among some tribes. For some, there were real people waiting in the woods to whisk them away. Their bogeymen weren't only imaginary.
I'm saying that legendary monsters usually originate from real things. In the case of man-like monsters, they generally originate from humans perceived to be "different" or "alien". Even in advanced human cultures like our own, one can easily and recently find such references to races who differ from us by degrees of skin color, lip prominence, eyelid folds, etc. The concept that we are all one species is a pretty recent one. As a tall Anglo, I have been gawked at in isolated areas of the world, even including areas of North America where the average height is a foot less and facial/body hair is sparse.
(Parenthetically, I have spent a good bit of time studying North American Plains tribes and their languages, and the inadequacies of translations.)
Do Native Americans lie? Everyone lies. Tourist traps are everywhere. Did Paul Bunyan live in Brainerd? Did Jesus rise crom the dead? But are all these stories of big creatures just made up? I don't think so. Women and children WERE abducted from their tribes by fierce strong alien raiders, tribes moved about, life was perilous; accounts were told and imperfectly retold, and finally imperfectly translated.
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Vortigern99
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They were both real (to them) and imagined. The legends of the Thunder Bird and the Lake Tiger share a similar origin and function: partly based on real animals, but aggrandized and mythologized into creatures of supernatural power, and employed as functionaries in didactic folk tales.
William Parcher
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Now hold on there.
Abduction raids were not conducted by giant apemen. If they were witnessed in the act, then nobody saw anything other than nearby (enemy) tribe members who may have even been identifiable by their appearance. If they were not witnessed, then their description is fantasy or speculation. Why wouldn't common wild animals be implicated such as bears or cougars (or others in the Pleistocene epoch)?
When a tribe had experienced abductions they may have later also raided the enemy tribe and found their own stolen tribe members. Our children weren't taken by giant apemen. They were taken by our enemies and they aren't Sasquatch.
New rumors posted by Robert Lindsay, supposedly from the Erickson project regarding the nuclear DNA of specimens submitted to Ketchum.
As judged by the polymorphisms in their nuDNA,
"Bigfoots are approximately 1/2 way between humans and chimps."
and their mtDNA is human. So they are some sort of hybrid. (!!!)
http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2011/07/04/breathtaking-news-from-the-erickson-project/
Bigfoots are not quite us!!!
Plus gossip of strife between the various factions, and the tale of the two murdered Bigfoots becomes more accusatory in tone.
Is a demand for a sample of Obama's DNA in the cards? Stay tuned.
As judged by the polymorphisms in their nuDNA,
"Bigfoots are approximately 1/2 way between humans and chimps."
and their mtDNA is human. So they are some sort of hybrid. (!!!)
http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2011/07/04/breathtaking-news-from-the-erickson-project/
Bigfoots are not quite us!!!
Plus gossip of strife between the various factions, and the tale of the two murdered Bigfoots becomes more accusatory in tone.
Is a demand for a sample of Obama's DNA in the cards? Stay tuned.
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LTC8K6
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Half way eh?
Such a nice scientific term...
Such a nice scientific term...
William Parcher
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If you saw a child being abducted by an enemy tribe you'd be a fool to describe the abductor as a giant woodland demon. You'll never get your kid back or revenge on the enemy tribe if you've got your braves out looking for a Saquatch.
Also, did NAs commit infanticide? You go toss your unwanted baby into the river and then wander back to the village and say that Sasquatch took her.
Also, did NAs commit infanticide? You go toss your unwanted baby into the river and then wander back to the village and say that Sasquatch took her.
If you read the early translations of the legends, not the "strained" versions, you will see that by and large these "creatures" acted human, used tools, clothing, shelter, boats etc. They were just bigger, stronger and in some cases hairier. In some cases they were smaller and not hairy. In many cases they were just clearly men, sometimes feral. Ted Kazinski, Bigfoot to tiny hairless Eskimos.
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I was happy to find out that bigfoot years are about twice as long as human years according to Robert Lindsay. If they are human, why do their years need to be longer? I also thought that it was telling that Melba Ketchum chimed in. I hope they remove all the sharp objects at these bigfoot conferences, it could get really ugly.
William Parcher
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It doesn't hurt anything to have as many thoughts as possible laid out on this table. Nobody can say what exactly was behind the Native American myths that are now attributed to Bigfoot by some people. Parn, says it was other humans. It might not be that simple.
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Lets not forget that Native Americans may have dressed up in frightening costumes, or animal hides to conduct these raids. It's not uncommon throughout history.
The Shrike
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. . . And if the risk of abduction was higher in certain areas of "no man's land" between tribal boundaries, then you'd be likely to warn your young'ns to never go there. Of course, if you tell those young'ns that they can't go there because our enemies are there, then you're basically daring them to go to prove their bravery. If, however, you tell them some mystical, giant, shape-shifting, uber-cunning monster/spirits live there, you might have some better luck keeping your kids closer to home.
I'm pretty sure this is why my parents took us to see "Boggy Creek" - so we wouldn't wander too far on our own in the woods. (My kids are easy - I just say "ticks" and you can't pay them enough to go there.)
I'm pretty sure this is why my parents took us to see "Boggy Creek" - so we wouldn't wander too far on our own in the woods. (My kids are easy - I just say "ticks" and you can't pay them enough to go there.)
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The random Bigfooter in Oklahoma who says he watched a Bigfoot and that there is no way that he was mistaken or hoaxed. What "real thing" is his monster originated from?
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