Merged Continuation - 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

[DGM]

Let me guess you are going to say that no one could keep this secret.

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DeathDart:
Just some friendly advise. In life you get much further and command more respect when you talk TO people not AT them.

So far I see no reason everyone shouldn't ignore you. Care to prove me wrong?

 

[sylvan8798]

At what point in the course of events does the scene of a crime become a "protected crime scene"?

 

[DGM]

At what point in the course of events does the scene of a crime become a "protected crime scene"?

In the case of 9/11 the second the first plane hit the tower. The part the "truthers" will never get is the collapse of the buildings would not be part of the criminal investigation. That investigation focuses on the identity of who took over the plane.

 

[dafydd]

Ok since Shin Bet operatives were controlling the security at all the departure points. They could have loaded a special device(s) with the baggage in the cargo hold.

Probably the best way is having bags of magnetic bondable thermite pellets spread throughout the cargo hold.

If they knew the device would not punch through it could have been a single pallet. 1000 to 2000 pounds seems adequate.

Again the thermite is only a possibility, not a probability.

If the debris had been correctly analyzed we would have a computer model that most people could agree with. The model may actually say that the fuel fire was sufficient and did collapse the buildings.

And Santa Claus might live at the North Pole.

 

[000063]

The people who had to be rescued were at the periphery of the collapse. Directly at the towers there could be no survivors.

You mean, such as the 23 people who survived?

I don't care how many 1000's people of people you had wander around the site and then calling it an investigation. Without heavy equipment AND TIME all they were was a bunch of tourists.

There was plenty of heavy equipment, and months of time.

Oh yes that heavy equipment.
Can you identify the investigators in the picture?

Here's a photo.

Who are the men in it?

 

[Clayton Moore]

Can you prove he is?

See, this is not how it works: You can't throw dozends of wild assertions at us and expect us to find evidence they are untrue.
YOU must provide evidence they are true. And significantly related to 9/11. And lead to conclusions that are inconsistent with the accepted facts that 19 Arab members of Al Qaeda, all of them islamist fanatics, hijacked 4 planes, took the American defenses sufficiently and predictably by surprise, and used them to destroy the WTC and part of the Pentagon.

You don't really provide any such evidence. And you fail to argue your claims, by mostly ignoring all the points raised against your assertions. We have seen this behaviour all too often - it gets old. Is there a truther school somewhere that teaches how not to think critically and how not to use the scientific method and logic to support theories by fact-based evidence?

Congrats. Disinformation agent of the quarter. Just who the hell is us?

 

[Clayton Moore]

DeathDart:
Just some friendly advise. In life you get much further and command more respect when you talk TO people not AT them.

So far I see no reason everyone shouldn't ignore you. Care to prove me wrong?

Your "advise" is flawed.

 

[triforcharity]

Me. And the rest of the NWO. Why, do you have a problem with that?

 

[DGM]

Your "advise" is flawed.

How so? Don't you like to engage in conversation? Maybe you just like people to tell you what to think,

Wait, I can see how you would think this is flawed. You don't want people to question your view, that way you don't have to answer embarrassing questions that prove you're in fact clueless. I get it now,

 

[TJM]

How so? Don't you like to engage in conversation? Maybe you just like people to tell you what to think,

No, Mr. Dead Wrong on Everything wants to gloat because he caught you in a typo.

Let the Thousand Kicks of Shame^TM begin.

 

[DGM]

No, Mr. Dead Wrong on Everything wants to gloat because he caught you in a typo.

Let the Thousand Kicks of Shame^TM begin.

Missed that, (even on the edit).

 

[000063]

Your "advise" is flawed.

No it's not. I've discovered the hard way that being a dick to someone is nearly the fastest way to get them to stop listening to you. Ignoring what they're saying in response to you usually falls under "being a dick".

Of course, if they're being jerks themselves, I can't say I will show them courtesy in response.

You're MIHOP, KotA is LIHOP, yet you two haven't discussed the matter between you. Why not? You can't both be right. Or is it that "don't contradict the Party Line" going on, where you will only admit to disagreeing with the most loony Truthers? I thought you were "free-thinkers"? Why not settle your internecine disagreements, in order to strengthen your mutual cases?

 

[Travis]

I'd love to see video or pictures of any event where firefighters showed up to try and rescue people and the police told them not to because "it's a crime scene."

 

[NoahFence]

Especially at 9/11 where so many were killed. The entire NYPD would be hogtied with fire hoses.

 

[RedIbis]

I'd love to see video or pictures of any event where firefighters showed up to try and rescue people and the police told them not to because "it's a crime scene."

Something like this I suppose.

Firefighters in Ground Zero clashWe want to dig our pals out, say protesters


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/nov/03/september11.usa

 

[000063]

Uh, nope. That was about them wanting more people on scene looking for victims, since Rudy had scaled back the numbers. There's nothing in there about crime scene preservation.

You do realize that when you post links, we can actually open them up and read them, right?

 

[NoahFence]

Uh, nope. That was about them wanting more people on scene looking for victims, since Rudy had scaled back the numbers. There's nothing in there about crime scene preservation.

You do realize that when you post links, we can actually open them up and read them, right?

LOL

 

[DGM]

Something like this I suppose.

Firefighters in Ground Zero clashWe want to dig our pals out, say protesters


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/nov/03/september11.usa

Did you read that article?

 

[Sunstealer]

Something like this I suppose.

Firefighters in Ground Zero clashWe want to dig our pals out, say protesters


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/nov/03/september11.usa

The date of your linked article is Saturday 3 November 2001 16.31 GMT.

Are you saying that those firefighters, reported on that date, wanted to rescue people? If not, then how is that relevant to Travis's post where he specifically mentions those requiring rescue? Do you think that people could have survived between sept 11th and Nov 3rd?

Are we to add "rescue" to the words you don't understand like onto and into?

Your reading comprehension needs work Red.

 

[triforcharity]

Something like this I suppose.

Firefighters in Ground Zero clashWe want to dig our pals out, say protesters


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/nov/03/september11.usa

Yep. And he was never respected from that day forth by the Fire Department. There is a term for him that FDNY used.

Rotten Rudy