Now Obama Guarantees $1Billion Egypt Debt?!

[The Don]

No, that's what we do when a moronic "democracy" becomes an enemy.

BTW, how did you people come up with this stupid notion that pretending to be a "democracy" by voting totalitarians into power grants the bogus "democracy" a Free Enmity Card? Could you please explain the undoubtedly unassailable logic behind that line of thought?

"You people" ?

I do like that if a country chooses to elect into power someone "we" don't like then suddenly they are morphed into "totalitarians" where leaders we support merely apply a strong but fair hand.

Either accept that it's a democracy and accept the results of the election (and perhaps try to understand why they have chosen to elect someone quite so unpleasant) or do a proper job, invade and install a puppet leader of your choice.

Merely denying the population their choice or forcing them to vote for someone different may only intensify the feelings which have resulted in the election of those people you hate.

 

[Koltopi]

"You people" ?

I do like that if a country chooses to elect into power someone "we" don't like then suddenly they are morphed into "totalitarians" where leaders we support merely apply a strong but fair hand.

Either accept that it's a democracy and accept the results of the election (and perhaps try to understand why they have chosen to elect someone quite so unpleasant) or do a proper job, invade and install a puppet leader of your choice.

Merely denying the population their choice or forcing them to vote for someone different may only intensify the feelings which have resulted in the election of those people you hate.

I agree about the proper job, democracy can't be built in a few months, especiallty when you have a country like egypt with a high illiteracy rate, it poses a real problem when the people aren't educated enough to tell which leader is good for them.

Pretty much, yes. If the citizens of Lebanon wish to be ruled by a terrorist organizaton they will learn that there are consequences for that decision. Just like the people of Gaza learned that there are consequences for electing a terrorist group as their government.

I feel really bad for the lebanese, they are trying for years now to regain control over thier country, there are just too many anti-lebanon bodies such as hizballah as iran's proxy or syrias influence. Every time a prominent decent leader appears he gets assassinated.

 

[SkepticalDrew]

If we were really pro-democracy now would be a good time to go after the gov't in Bahrain.

 

[egslim]

I feel really bad for the lebanese, they are trying for years now to regain control over thier country, there are just too many anti-lebanon bodies such as hizballah as iran's proxy or syrias influence. Every time a prominent decent leader appears he gets assassinated.

Hezbollah isn't anti-Lebanese. They are Lebanese.

Traditionally the Maronites (Christians) dominated the government, seconded by the wealthy Sunni group. Shias formed the lower class. This is based on the 1932 census.

Demographic change caused the Shias to become the largest group. And when Israel invaded Lebanon in the early 80s, the Shias were the only ones to develop an effective resistance through Hezbollah. (Israel was provoked by the PA, which itself isn't an important political faction in Lebanon.)

So Hezbollah's claim to political influence in Lebanon is they represent the largest demographic group, and are the only ones willing/able to defend their country. It's a good argument.

Of course Iran supports its fellow Shias, but Hezbollah is a grassroots Lebanese organization.

ETA:

I agree about the proper job, democracy can't be built in a few months, especiallty when you have a country like egypt with a high illiteracy rate, it poses a real problem when the people aren't educated enough to tell which leader is good for them.

I'd be careful with that argument.
Literacy in the US is about 99%, and they still managed to elect a chimp. Twice.
In Greece it's 96%, and the state of corruption in their government is seriously depressing.

 

[excaza]

ITT: A bunch of people not actually reading the linked article.

 

[The Don]

I agree about the proper job, democracy can't be built in a few months, especiallty when you have a country like egypt with a high illiteracy rate, it poses a real problem when the people aren't educated enough to tell which leader is good for them.

Riiiight, so should we demand a literacy/reasoning/intelligence test to determine whether someone is qualified to be a member of electorate ?

Perhaps they voted in an informed way for a party who they felt properly reflected their position (in much the same way that far-right racist parties get an up-tick during economic downturns) and fears. Perhaps they believed the propaganda and thought that Hezbollah may get them a fair shake in Lebanon and suppress the fears they have about Israel's ultimate intentions.

None of that may be true of course, but that's consistent with every democracy, people wanting to get elected whipping up fears and portraying themselves as more effective than they really are.

I feel really bad for the lebanese, they are trying for years now to regain control over thier country, there are just too many anti-lebanon bodies such as hizballah as iran's proxy or syrias influence. Every time a prominent decent leader appears he gets assassinated.

...and of course any body that isn't well disposed to the West in general, and the US in particular must be under the influence of countries in the axis of evil