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Good Christians should trash the environment?

Travis

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We have a local minister who broadcasts Sunday messages. Today's was an interesting one that I heard over the radio while in the hardware store. Apparently good Christians are not supposed to care about the environment.

Here's his logic:


  • The Rapture will be here any day
  • God favors America that's why we're the richest country
  • God wants American's to use up his bounty because:
    • Resources left behind after The Rapture will be used by the sinners
    • A good environment left behind will make life easier for them too
  • Therefore it is in a good Christian's interest to use up natural resources and accelerate global warming

Strangely he seemed to accept the premise that global warming is real despite having gone on rants in the past about how you can't trust scientists because of their ideas about evolution.
 
Travis said:
We have a local minister who broadcasts Sunday messages. Today's was an interesting one that I heard over the radio while in the hardware store. Apparently good Christians are not supposed to care about the environment.

Here's his logic:


  • The Rapture will be here any day
  • God favors America that's why we're the richest country
  • God wants American's to use up his bounty because:
    • Resources left behind after The Rapture will be used by the sinners
    • A good environment left behind will make life easier for them too
  • Therefore it is in a good Christian's interest to use up natural resources and accelerate global warming

Strangely he seemed to accept the premise that global warming is real despite having gone on rants in the past about how you can't trust scientists because of their ideas about evolution.
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Revelation also warned of the false prophets, could he be one? ewwwwww.
 
It was certainly the opinion that James Watt, who served as Secretary of the Interior under Reagan, seemed to hold. He pretty much point black said "Screw the planet, Jesus is gonna return any day now."
 
Travis said:
We have a local minister who broadcasts Sunday messages. Today's was an interesting one that I heard over the radio while in the hardware store. Apparently good Christians are not supposed to care about the environment.

Here's his logic:


  • The Rapture will be here any day
  • God favors America that's why we're the richest country
  • God wants American's to use up his bounty because:
    • Resources left behind after The Rapture will be used by the sinners
    • A good environment left behind will make life easier for them too
  • Therefore it is in a good Christian's interest to use up natural resources and accelerate global warming

Strangely he seemed to accept the premise that global warming is real despite having gone on rants in the past about how you can't trust scientists because of their ideas about evolution.
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Stundie a false prophet!

That's gotta be good for something
 
God gave the plants and animals of the earth to man to subdue and take care of. Proper stewardship and care of God's creation is an important Biblical principle.

The non-Biblical Rapture always seems to carry with it a large number of other non-Biblical principles and ideas.
 
AvalonXQ said:
God gave the plants and animals of the earth to man to subdue and take care of. Proper stewardship and care of God's creation is an important Biblical principle.

The non-Biblical Rapture always seems to carry with it a large number of other non-Biblical principles and ideas.
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Why would you accept Travis's characterization as a trustworthy representation of a person's position that he wishes only to disparage?

Travis said:
We have a local minister who broadcasts Sunday messages. Today's was an interesting one that I heard over the radio while in the hardware store. Apparently good Christians are not supposed to care about the environment.

Here's his logic:


  • The Rapture will be here any day
  • God favors America that's why we're the richest country
  • God wants American's to use up his bounty because:
    • Resources left behind after The Rapture will be used by the sinners
    • A good environment left behind will make life easier for them too
  • Therefore it is in a good Christian's interest to use up natural resources and accelerate global warming

Strangely he seemed to accept the premise that global warming is real despite having gone on rants in the past about how you can't trust scientists because of their ideas about evolution.
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Yeah... Travis just so happened to pick all that up just while ever so briefly overhearing a broadcast in the hardware store this morning... uh huh...


Post a link to that broadcaster and/or that broadcast Travis.
 
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Jude, you've really never encountered a Christian who was unconcerned with being a good steward of the Earth? One who thought everything was here for us to use up (and a few who insist we need to do so or we will have wasted God's gift!)?

Here's an article about the conflict between Christians who believe they should protect the environment and those against it: http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/30/an-evangelical-backlash-against-environmentalism/

Or here's a blog at the American Conservative talking about someone who think environmentalism is anti-christian (and the responses are filled with people who agree!): http://www.amconmag.com/schwenkler/2009/07/25/is-environmentalism-anti-christian/

or this one: http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2007/mar/07030208

Or how about: http://tinyurl.com/6dol2xs

Also for your perusal:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

But no, go ahead and call Travis untrustworth rather than discuss the actual argument. I think there's a term for that too.
 
If the end of the world is just around the corner, what motivation is there to build a better long term society?
 
I've seen Biblical righteousness play a big part in conservative denial of AGW in the past.

I forget which member of congress it was that claims there is no global warming because God said the world would not be destroyed in a flood.
 
Alareth said:
I forget which member of congress it was that claims there is no global warming because God said the world would not be destroyed in a flood.
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John Shimkus, (R-Illinois) speaking before the House Energy Subcommittee in March, 2009.

"'I believe that is the infallible word of God, and that's the way it is going to be for his creation. 'The earth will end only when God declares its time to be over. Man will not destroy this earth. This earth will not be destroyed by a flood."
 
steve s said:
So why did he put so much of our oil outside our borders?

Steve S
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That's why He gave us armies.

The good Lord says,"Buy what you can, steal what you must, I the Lord have commanded you this".
 
AvalonXQ said:
God gave the plants and animals of the earth to man to subdue and take care of. Proper stewardship and care of God's creation is an important Biblical principle.

The non-Biblical Rapture always seems to carry with it a large number of other non-Biblical principles and ideas.
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Wait,I thought we god fired as god's groundskeeper.
 
It wasn't on a radio station. People record his ideas (sometimes there is a panel) and then play them over their stereo in several local stores. Well....two stores that I know of. A hardware store and a supermarket.

It's the same place that produced this. The guy that approved of the Gifford's shooting has not been back on since. I think they found his notion as disgusting as everyone else did.
 
Travis said:
It wasn't on a radio station. People record his ideas (sometimes there is a panel) and then play them over their stereo in several local stores. Well....two stores that I know of. A hardware store and a supermarket.

It's the same place that produced this. The guy that approved of the Gifford's shooting has not been back on since. I think they found his notion as disgusting as everyone else did.
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Crazy guy says something crazy.
 
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