Merged General Holocaust denial discussion thread

[Wroclaw]

And who paid the over 50 B I L L I O N in reparations?

Germany did. Now tell us all whose idea those reparations were. And tell us whether the reparations would have been greater or smaller if more Jews had survived.

 

[Wroclaw]

Who suffered the Morgenthau Plan for about 3 years after the war ended?

As explained to you already, the Morgenthau plan was never really implemented, and certainly not for three years. Instead, JCS 1067 was implemented as a military police until July 1947, a little over two years after the end of the war, at which point it was replaced, eventually by the Marshall Plan.

Germany has the healthiest economy in Europe today.

 

[Clayton Moore]

As explained to you already, the Morgenthau plan was never really implemented, and certainly not for three years. Instead, JCS 1067 was implemented as a military police until July 1947, a little over two years after the end of the war, at which point it was replaced, eventually by the Marshall Plan.

Germany has the healthiest economy in Europe today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgenthau_Plan

In early 1947 four million German soldiers were still being used as forced labor in the UK, France, and the Soviet Union.[12][13]

In 1951 West Germany agreed to join the European Coal and Steel Community (ECSC) the following year. This meant that some of the economic restrictions on production capacity and on actual production that were imposed by the International Authority for the Ruhr were lifted, and that its role was taken over by the ECSC.[14]

Although dismantling of West German industry ended in 1951, "industrial disarmament" lingered in restrictions on actual German Steel production, and production capacity, as well as on restriction on key industries. All remaining restrictions were finally rescinded on May 5, 1955. According to Frederick Gareau, noting that although U.S. policy had changed well before that; "the last act of the Morgenthau drama occurred on that date [May 5, 1955] or when the Saar was returned to Germany [January 1, 1957]."[7]

 

[Wroclaw]

Way to quote out of context and to misunderstand what you read.

Does or does not Germany have the healthiest economy in Europe? And, if so, for how long has it had the healthiest economy?

 

[Clayton Moore]

Way to quote out of context and to misunderstand what you read.

Does or does not Germany have the healthiest economy in Europe? And, if so, for how long has it had the healthiest economy?

What does Germany's economy have to do with the slaughter of millions of noncombatants at the end of and after the war? And the attempted slaughter of millions more?
And the billions of reparations as the result of the hate built and perpetuated by Holocaust lies.

Like I've said, lie after lie has been repudiated but the hate remains. That is the purpose of the Holocaust museums, to keep the hate alive.

 

[MG1962]

What does Germany's economy have to do with the slaughter of millions of noncombatants at the end of and after the war? And the attempted slaughter of millions more?

Isn't this thread supposed to be about the slaughter of millions of non combantants DURING the war?

Like I've said, lie after lie has been repudiated but the hate remains. That is the purpose of the Holocaust museums, to keep the hate alive.

The hate by who against whom. You keep stating this like some mantre but never seem to want to venture who these people are

 

[TSR]

Who suffered the Morgenthau Plan for about 3 years after the war ended?

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No one, since it was never implemented.
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And over 50 B I L L I O N in reparations?

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And, again no one, since your figure is way off.

Now, how did you calculate your "much less" than 500,000 number, and what sources did you use?

Can you document even a single lie on the THHP site?

BTW, what happened to Guta and Abus Strawczynski?

Do you really not see how cowardly you seem when you run from questions put to you?
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[uke2se]

Just popping in to say hi to everyone. Ignoring the fact that people like the holocaust deniers in this thread exist has done wonders for my state of mind. Ignorance is bliss, as they say.

I notice that a few older deniers have finally been banned and a few new ones have emerged from under whatever rock they all hide. The "arguments" remain the same, though, no matter how many times they are shown to be bunkum.

I'll let you guys get back to the daily ownage of these vapid liars.

 

[Clayton Moore]

Isn't this thread supposed to be about the slaughter of millions of non combantants DURING the war?



The hate by who against whom. You keep stating this like some mantre but never seem to want to venture who these people are

The Holocaust that "killed millions of Jewish children, women, and men" never happened and was an after war fabrication. That Holocaust, your Holocaust, is hate for gain.

 

[MG1962]

The Holocaust that "killed millions of Jewish children, women, and men" never happened and was an after war fabrication. That Holocaust, your Holocaust, is hate for gain.

So five million or so Poles never happened. What a truely warped view you must have. Hate to break it to you but nearly 25 million civilians died in WW2. No one even needs the holocaust to hate Hitler and the scum that collected around him

 

[Saggy]

The hate by who against whom. You keep stating this like some mantre but never seem to want to venture who these people are

The hatred of the Jews for the rest of the human race. Read holohoax survivor Israel Shahaks book "Jewish History, Jewish Religion", from a review ...

"When the Roman historian Tacitus pointed out 19 centuries ago that the Jews are unique among the peoples of the world in their intense hatred and contempt for all peoples but their own, he was only repeating what many other scholars had discovered before him. For the next 1,900 years other investigators came to similar conclusions, either from a study of the Jews' religious writings or from a study of the Jews' behavior toward non-Jews."

The holohoax is the the icing on the cake. It will forever brand the Jews.

 

[MG1962]

The hatred of the Jews for the rest of the human race. Read holohoax survivor Israel Shahaks book "Jewish History, Jewish Religion", from a review ...

So what made Germany so special? A country that had been around 50 years suddenly needs to be flushed down the toilet of Jewish hatred?

The holohoax is the the icing on the cake. It will forever brand the Jews.

Yeah dont it feel so good to be wrong

 

[TSR]

Read holohoax survivor Israel Shahaks book "Jewish History, Jewish Religion",

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While Shahak is not above lying to advance his agenda, can you tell us all whether *he* thinks the Holocaust was hoax?
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[Clayton Moore]

So five million or so Poles never happened. What a truely warped view you must have. Hate to break it to you but nearly 25 million civilians died in WW2. No one even needs the holocaust to hate Hitler and the scum that collected around him

And yet, as per his book, Elie Wiesel chose to evacuate with the Germans?

 

[MG1962]

And yet, as per his book, Elie Wiesel chose to evacuate with the Germans?

And? Why should the world hate Germans for the 6 million Jews you said never died when there are 9 million other women, children and men the National Socialists killed to sate their own blood lust.

Also noted the ducking of the question. Why did the Jews hate a country that had only existed for 50 years when we have counties who measure their hate of the jews in millenia

 

[TSR]

And yet, as per his book, Elie Wiesel chose to evacuate with the Germans?

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And yet, per your posts, you consider Wiesel a liar.

How do you determine when he is lying and when not?

How did you calculate your "much less" than 500,000 number, and what sources did you use?

Can you document even a single lie on the THHP site?

BTW, what happened to Guta and Abus Strawczynski?

Do you really not see how cowardly you seem when you run from questions put to you?
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[Wroclaw]

The Holocaust that "killed millions of Jewish children, women, and men" never happened and was an after war fabrication. That Holocaust, your Holocaust, is hate for gain.

Fine. Prove to us all that millions of Germans died after the war.

 

[Wroclaw]

And yet, as per his book, Elie Wiesel chose to evacuate with the Germans?

Come off it. You never read that book and you know it.

 

[Corsair 115]

I actually feel sorry for Clayton. Given the quality of mind he's exhibiting in this and other threads, the poor fellow doesn't stand a chance. He's going to end up as little more than a wet spot on the road of life...

 

[little grey rabbit]

Come off it. You never read that book and you know it.

Why would you, it is only a novel.

I prefer to read reliable, accurate, utterly uncoerced perpetrator testimony like that of Arthur Schrantz (bl 372-373)

PYATIGORSK

Electrocution

Deposition By Arthur Schrantz
Prisoner of War
Sgt. Major, Radio Operator
Transportation Squadron
4th Air Corps.

A comrade from the Pyatigorsk airdrome told me of another case. The previous summer he had often been visited by a Russian girl who tended the local goats. One day she burst in crying that she had just seen all the Pyatigorsk Jews and their children driven outside the city.

They were forced to stand in a row and with bare hands grasp a barbed wire. Electric current was passed through the wire and all the Jews were instantly killed.

I arrived in Rostov in August 1942, two weeks after that city was occupied by the Germans. I lived in an apartment with a Russian family and an old Jewish woman who was ill and could not leave her bed. One day two SS troopers and their interpreter appeared and asked whether there were any Jews in the apartment. They ordered the old woman to go to the commandant's office at once. She replied that she was too ill to be moved but would go in a few days when she hoped to be feeling better. One of the SS troopers said: "That won't be at all necessary." Lifting the old woman with her mattress they dragged her below and placed her on a truck. She never returned.

Lest we forget.