Congressman Weiner's inappropriate tweet

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Yes, the Chinese want to know if "Weiner stand for erection"

 

[BeAChooser]

Drip, drip, drip:

Congressman Anthony Weiner instructed one of his Internet women how to lie about their relationship ... and even offered PR help from his team, which could create major legal issues for him ... TMZ has learned.

Weiner and former porn star Ginger Lee exchanged scores of sexual emails over a long period of time. When the underwear scandal broke on May 28, Lee began receiving calls from the media, and Weiner was more than happy to help her control the situation ... by lying.

Given the tactics, I think Weiner learned from the masters ... Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Bill Clinton even officiated at Anthony's and Huma's (his wife's) wedding (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/10/nyregion/10weiner.html ).

Which leads me to wonder if it is just coincidence that Huma was one of Hillary Clinton's top aides during Bill's impeachment? In fact, Huma and Hillary were so close that rumors abounded that she and Hillary had a thing going.

And given that (we are told) Huma is a muslim, shouldn't Huma now be calling for Weiner's stoning? That is the punishment under Islamic law, after all. Why is she remaining silent? One would think she'd be really mad and ready to take Weiner to the cleaners? But apparently not. Apparently, there is talk of her "standing by her man".

Which leads me to wonder if Huma was involved in the damage control of Bill's scandals. If she really was Hillary's "right hand" and "body person" (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...yes_im_hot_for_hillary_clintons_body_wom.html ), as many articles suggest, then she would have almost had to have been involved in helping Hillary control the damage to both Hillary AND Bill. If so, then she would have learned all the tricks of the trade and we should now ask whether she is playing a role in trying to squelch this scandal and save her own political future (and her husband's)?

And how about the Clintons? Given the above obviously close relationship between the two couples, you have to wonder why they are remaining so silent now? Could they be giving the couple advice behind the scenes. It's certainly possible. Why doesn't Hillary come forward and stick up for her former aide ... her closest aide ... her fellow abused woman? Isn't she disgusted with Anthony's behavior? Or does she see Weiner as more useful to her ... politically? Or does Weiner know something about her that keeps her on the sidelines? Will she and Bill simply throw Huma and Weiner both under the bus like they have so many others along their way? Seriously, enquiring, skeptical minds want to know?

We also want to know if there is more story still untold (despite Diane Sawyer's claim this morning that now we know "all" the secrets). Did Huma know? And going back, how is that Huma Abedin, a lowly intern for Hillary back in 1996, was able to buy a $649,000 condominium in Washington? How could she afford to wear a different designer dress every day? And where were the male boyfriends that one would expect someone with her beauty to have around her? As James Carville said "Have you seen Huma? Her appearance is just like, 'Hoh my God!' She takes your breath away. She's an unbelievably, stunningly gorgeous woman. Nobody in that position can be that good-looking; it just doesn't happen." So ... uh ... maybe we should dig a little deeper? Maybe Weiner's isn't the only sex scandal here.

And, by the way, this scandal just demonstrates further how much influence the Clintons and people from the Clinton administration have in our current government even now, over a decade after that administration was found to have committed about every crime you can name. Their people are everywhere, folks. And you foolishly thought we might be done with them after the Impeachment? No, I'm afraid they are the gift that just keeps giving. Stay tuned.

 

[Brainster]

Given the tactics, I think Weiner learned from the masters ... Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Bill Clinton even officiated at Anthony's and Huma's (his wife's) wedding (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/10/nyregion/10weiner.html ).

Which leads me to wonder if it is just coincidence that Huma was one of Hillary Clinton's top aides during Bill's impeachment? In fact, Huma and Hillary were so close that rumors abounded that she and Hillary had a thing going.

And given that (we are told) Huma is a muslim, shouldn't Huma now be calling for Weiner's stoning? That is the punishment under Islamic law, after all. Why is she remaining silent? One would think she'd be really mad and ready to take Weiner to the cleaners? But apparently not. Apparently, there is talk of her "standing by her man".

Which leads me to wonder if Huma was involved in the damage control of Bill's scandals. If she really was Hillary's "right hand" and "body person" (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...yes_im_hot_for_hillary_clintons_body_wom.html ), as many articles suggest, then she would have almost had to have been involved in helping Hillary control the damage to both Hillary AND Bill. If so, then she would have learned all the tricks of the trade and we should now ask whether she is playing a role in trying to squelch this scandal and save her own political future (and her husband's)?

And how about the Clintons? Given the above obviously close relationship between the two couples, you have to wonder why they are remaining so silent now? Could they be giving the couple advice behind the scenes. It's certainly possible. Why doesn't Hillary come forward and stick up for her former aide ... her closest aide ... her fellow abused woman? Isn't she disgusted with Anthony's behavior? Or does she see Weiner as more useful to her ... politically? Or does Weiner know something about her that keeps her on the sidelines? Will she and Bill simply throw Huma and Weiner both under the bus like they have so many others along their way? Seriously, enquiring, skeptical minds want to know?

We also want to know if there is more story still untold (despite Diane Sawyer's claim this morning that now we know "all" the secrets). Did Huma know? And going back, how is that Huma Abedin, a lowly intern for Hillary back in 1996, was able to buy a $649,000 condominium in Washington? How could she afford to wear a different designer dress every day? And where were the male boyfriends that one would expect someone with her beauty to have around her? As James Carville said "Have you seen Huma? Her appearance is just like, 'Hoh my God!' She takes your breath away. She's an unbelievably, stunningly gorgeous woman. Nobody in that position can be that good-looking; it just doesn't happen." So ... uh ... maybe we should dig a little deeper? Maybe Weiner's isn't the only sex scandal here.

And, by the way, this scandal just demonstrates further how much influence the Clintons and people from the Clinton administration have in our current government even now, over a decade after that administration was found to have committed about every crime you can name. Their people are everywhere, folks. And you foolishly thought we might be done with them after the Impeachment? No, I'm afraid they are the gift that just keeps giving. Stay tuned.

Surely you could have worked Ron Brown and Vincent Foster in there if you'd made an effort.

 

[Ziggurat]

If all the dailykos 'forensics' posts weren't enough...

Oh, it gets better.

ETA: that link falls under the heading of Poe's Law.

 

[applecorped]

Oh, it gets better.

ETA: that link falls under the heading of Poe's Law.

From the link:

Don't you think that press conference today was a hoax?
Absolutely 62% 1334 votes
Of course 7% 162 votes
HR (for thinking otherwise) 4% 102 votes
Canucks in 611% 247 votes
Bruins in 712% 274 votes

 

[BeAChooser]

Surely you could have worked Ron Brown and Vincent Foster in there if you'd made an effort.

Now that would have been off-topic. My post was completely on topic.

 

[Snide]

Thanks for sharing. I'll file your comments in the appropriate receptacle, but fortunately will now be unable read any more of your missives.

Sounds good. I'll note your evasion. Peace.

 

[TraneWreck]

That's not a skeptic, that's a cynic an insane person.

Regardless of political pursuasion, it always amuses me when people have been shown VERY CLEARLY to be incorrect, and they just keep going.

 

[Gandalfs Beard]

Except, of course, you aren't actually making a comparison at all. All you're doing (and rather pathetically at that) is bringing up other names in an attempt to distract from Weiner's actions, along with the fact that you were completely wrong from the start and I was completely right. I wonder how long it will take you to come to terms with that.

No, you're completely wrong! I brought them up to compare how YOU and the Anti-Weiner brigade would react. I wanted to see if you would hold yourselves up to the same scrutiny and standards you expect of others. If you consider that a distraction, it demonstrates that you lack integrity, and courtesy, even when you're right. How does it feel being a Sore Winner.

And in fact, I do believe that I am the one of the very few, if not the only, person on this thread to admit that I was wrong unreservedly, and without excuses or justifications; and I admitted that any suspicions I harboured were purely speculative and not to be considered as evidence. That's what I do when I am proved wrong. It is the only way to maintain my credibility as an honest debater.

And I did that several or more pages ago, as soon as I found out that Weiner had confessed. The fact that you continue to ignore these FACTS once again demonstrates that, again, you lack integrity, and courtesy, even when you're right.


Nice fail on both accounts though!

If you have ever made any posts in which you have acknowledged defeat, please PM me to demonstrate that you have a modicun of integrity

GB

ETA: I have noticed that it is a general trait of Conservatives to be Sore Winners.

 

[Bilbo]

Enter the Porn Star..Ginger Lee

Weiner and former porn star Ginger Lee exchanged scores of sexual emails over a long period of time. When the underwear scandal broke on May 28, Lee began receiving calls from the media, and Weiner was more than happy to help her control the situation ... by lying.

Put a fork in weiner, he's done.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/06/06/antho...-press-conference-penis-picture-apologized/1/

Warning: Do NOT GIS for Ginger Lee at work.

 

[Roadtoad]

Just out of curiosity, for our Conservative commenters, what does Breitbart have to do to make you skeptical of his claims?

Because this story originated from the Breitbart empire, I immediately assumed it was nonsense. Time has shown it to be entirely nonsense. This is episode 1,987 of "Breitbart offers preposterous lie, conservatives gobble it up, then look foolish."

I only found out about this when we got in from about a month on the road. That Breitbart's name was attached to it was sufficient cause to view it with skepticism.

This Weiner case is a real hard one.

[beavis] Heh-heh. Heh-heh. [/beavis]

We need to know how the woman learned about the picture. We need to know how slime boy Breitbart heard about it. We need to see whether the woman was exchanging tweets with Weiner and what was in them. Do we have anby of that right now?

If "no" on any of these, we have a double handful of squat.

And now that there are facts debunking this? Will you apologize? Time to put on the man pants.

My favorite quote when Clinton was being trashed for lying about his infidelities came from a respectable Southern lady of a Certain Age (a certain age) and background (respectable and Southern): "A gentleman does not speak of his ladies, nor a lady of her gentlemen." (shrug) That's how I was brought up.

Agreed. Too bad that attitude's long gone.

 

[Brainster]

Let me get this straight; is the rationale for ignoring Breitbart the fact that he has smeared people in the past and then turned out to be wrong?

What does that say about the folks who have smeared Breitbart in this thread?

 

[Roadtoad]

No, it's unreasonable to think that our elected officials are saints that do not sin. Since Weiner is not a "family values" type of representative, I see this as a non-issue.

Agreed with the first part, the second, I expect an elected representative to show better judgement.

I don't think it's a big deal, unless you're a partisan hack. This is about as stupid as the Clinton scandal.

I'm not a hack, but this is offensive. The Clinton Scandal became one when he lied under oath to Judge Susan Weber Wright. (I think that's the name.) Had he simply said, "I got laid and it was GOOD!" the whole thing would have been over and done with inside of a week. (Well, aside from the divorce from Hillary.)

Depends on how you define morality. Sexual morality is probably none of our business until somebody starts abusing the rights of others, like that worthless little slimeball Mark Foley. Gingrich and the Gropenfuehrer are both utter slimeballs, to base it on their zipper control problems and their willingness to blow off their wedding vows. Rotten Rudy tried to move his bimbo into the mayor's official residence without first divesting himself of his then-current wife.
I just ate, so I don't want to even think about gay-bashers like Wide-stance Craig or Diapers Vitter.

Does the GOP make those worthless drongos wear sack cloth or warn people of their presence by ringing a bell and calling out "UNCLEAN! UNCLEAN?"

Derrrr!

When we found out what Edwards and Spitzer had been up to, that was the end of their careers. There were actual victims involved.

There is no proof that there was one in the Weiner case. Ho-freakin'-HUM.


If anybody worked any harm on anybody else, it was that little fop with the stick up his nose and lack of any masculine behavioral traits over at BigBS.
If you yourself are not a "family values" sort of voter, then sure. But plenty of people are. And for them, voting accordingly makes sense.

Careful, Lefty. Your double standard is showing.

We don't know who, or if, anyone was harmed with Weiner's behavior. Even so, this was an incredible lapse in basic judgement.

I guess the right is tired of looking foolish on economic issues so they need to remind us they're equally foolish when it comes to significantly less substantive matters.

This is a patented, classic right wing moment: "I say, did you see the picture? I am overcome with the vapors. WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN!?!?"

Like the "Sarah Palin's kid is really Bristol's" idiot conspiracy theory (see what I did there, how about some bipartisanship!), even if this is true, it's a non-issue. As others have said, it's between Weiner and his wife. There can be no charge of hypocrisy because Weiner is not a sanctimonious "values" blowhard. No, this is just a Clinton-era bout of right wing panty sniffing.

No, this is "If you did something stupid, own up like a man, and get it over with." I don't expect the man to be a saint. I expect him to show some common sense.

Glenn Beck is having a field day with this today. He went an hour and a half on it.
Weiner was apparently the guy who went after Beck for using fear mongering tactics to market gold (via Goldline).

Mostly Beck's take is: Weiner said it was a hack. Then changed to say it was a prank, and will not answer any other questions. Beck is concerned that if this was a hack, congress may not be secure, and so a thorough investigation should be done on this. Mr Beck urges the Republicans in congress to insist on this investigation. For national security's sake.

Had to check the date on the post. Yeah, that's about Glenn's style: Start spewing before the facts are out. Put some sort of a spin on it so it sounds as though he's got the country's best interest at heart, rather than common sense.

Someone please pass the Rolaids. I need to counter the Beck administered Ipecac.

 

[leftysergeant]

So he did it. He did not grant anyone favors at our expense to keep it a secret.

He still intends to go on doing what he was doing in his public service.

We are not harmed.

His wife may have been. Our she may be kinky enough herself to get some sort of amusement out of it.

It's her choice whether to keep him or not. She will probably not make any demands on him that he vote or orate from a different position than he would have had this not been made public. She's a liberal, for crying out loud. No change is likely to occur. They seem to be on the same track politically and socially.

There is no reason for Weiner to resign. It is up to the people of his district to decide what they care more about. I am sure that they are more worried about what snots like Cantor and Ryan and Agent Orange are going to do to them than about what Weiner and a few floozies want to do to each other, especially since it is all quite normal sex and non-abusive.

Too damaged to represent his district? Doesn't that apply to an obviously deranged jerk like Diapers Vitter? Come on niow. That boy is sick. I mean wash-your-hands-with-bleach-if-you-touch-him sick. Doesnm't seem to bother Republicons in a Bible-thumping district. The stench of hypocrisy is overwhelming.

And, to top it all off, Vitter is legislating to the dteriment of the people he purports to represent in favor of their corporate masters. He should burn in hell.

Larry Craig, though certainly a bit of a schwueller himself, persecuted gays. I do not want to be him at Judgement Day.

Lee was outted by the recipient of his e-mail. There two victims. Both made an issue of it. He gave up because he couldn't deal with it and his base pretends rto be more moral than that. I shed no tears for him. He wasn't worth much to the country anyway. He was, further, a part of a movement that had begun to frighten the voting public, even in an extremist district like his own, as the election results show.

The women with whom Weiner flirted didn't complain. Three perverts with masculinity deficiencies did. Ho-freaking-HUM. People still need a man like Weiner doing the things that Weiner did on the House floor, so what he does at home in his study is not that big a concern. There are actual perverts there who need to be eliminated and they are doing horrible things to the sorts of working people who sent Weiner to D.C. in the first place. Resigning now would be an even bigger disdeed than his flirtations, especially if his wife is shrugging it off.

 

[Ziggurat]

No, you're completely wrong! I brought them up to compare how YOU and the Anti-Weiner brigade would react.

But you DIDN'T compare how I would react. Your post contains nothing about my reaction. You don't even know how I would (or did) react. Nor did you ask. You simply rattled off the names of a bunch of other people who had sex scandals. No relevant point was contained within that post.

If you have ever made any posts in which you have acknowledged defeat, please PM me to demonstrate that you have a modicun of integrity

I don't need to PM you. I'll give examples publicly.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3272999#post3272999
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7251024#post7251024

I'm not going to bother to dig further, but that's enough to disprove your accusation.

ETA: I have noticed that it is a general trait of Conservatives to be Sore Winners.

And I've noticed that it is a specific trait of you to categorically smear your ideological opponents

 

[Roadtoad]

I am anxious for you to bump this thread in two weeks. The reaction will be, "oh yeah, I remember that stupid **** now."

This will pass on and be forgotten save for a small circle of zealots. It will give them a fresh topic to deal with between bouts of claiming that Vince Foster was murdered and Obama is from Kenya.

Already there, and I just heard about it yesterday.

This just in, "OJ Simpson not guilty of murder," says OJ Simpson.

I'm trying to imagine people less credible than Breitbart.

Good luck with that.

 

[Gandalfs Beard]

Enter the Porn Star..Ginger Lee



Put a fork in weiner, he's done.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/06/06/antho...-press-conference-penis-picture-apologized/1/

Warning: Do NOT GIS for Ginger Lee at work.

And I'm sure every Conservative Mel Gibson Admirer gushed at the credibility of TMZ when they slaughtered him with his own words and behaviour.


GB

PS: Having Flamed numerous Conservative Mel Gibson supporters who excoriated TMZ, the above statement should be taken with a heaping serving of salt.

 

[TraneWreck]

Let me get this straight; is the rationale for ignoring Breitbart the fact that he has smeared people in the past and then turned out to be wrong?

What does that say about the folks who have smeared Breitbart in this thread?

If you can point to anyone in the thread maliciously editing Breitbart's work to humiliate him and destroy his employment, you might have an argument.

Yes, when someone has consistently shown themselves willing to manipulate and lie, they should not be trusted. He turned out to be right in this case, and will doubtless use this "credibility" to launch more smears. Whatever he produces next I will assume to be a lie like SHirley Sherrod, ACORN and Planned Parenthood until evidence presents itself otherwise.

 

[Roadtoad]

Nixon actually intended to do good, in large part. He actually told the truth on occassion.

When?

 

[leftysergeant]

What does that say about the folks who have smeared Breitbart in this thread?

The sludge monster is still a nuisance to public health. I don't even think Weiner should have mentioned it when he was doing his mea culpa. The sludge monster did what it did to harm the people of this country. It still gets no pass from me.