Stephen King shot John Lennon

sadhatter said:
This bit killed me...

"Pyrokinesis means fire and movement, and a man at night with a gun ablaze, crouched in a raincoat looks like a great big cigarette lighter. Subtle but dramatic codes."

Now i am a writer, and i ran through every possible scenario in which a man could be firing a gun in a raincoat, and i can say i cannot think of one instance in which i would say it could be described as a " Great big cigarette lighter." Even giving leeway in the phrasing.

Well, unless he was firing straight up, for an extended burst, with an uzi, but even then it would be a pretty big stretch.
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"Having been out in the rain his trench coat glistened with an almost metallic quality.
'Everyone on the ground!' He yelled as he fired the Uzi continuously in the air. The flames surged from the muzzle of the gun, giving the robber an appearance not unlike a great big cigarette lighter."

Doesn't really roll off the tongue does it? Then again I am not a writer.
 
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fullflavormenthol said:
"Having been out in the rain his trench coat glistened with an almost metallic quality.
'Everyone on the ground!' He yelled as he fired the Uzi continuously in the air. The flames surged from the muzzle of the gun, giving the robber an appearance not unlike a great big cigarette lighter."

Doesn't really roll off the tongue does it? Then again I am not a writer.
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The great big kills it, lol.

Actually the whole cigarette lighter thing just seems like the writer would be really reaching for something to compare it to. The best i could do would be...

" He fired the small machine gun with a twisted grimace, looking for all the world as if he was being lit by a dying cigarette lighter. "

I think this guy stumbled upon something, but not what he was looking for. The fact that it is really hard to make a good description using a combination of someone firing a gun, being in a trench coat, and having to wedge in cigarette lighter somewhere.

Essentially he found a written version of a " turd in the punchbowl." or if your a bit more polite " a fly in the ointment."
 
FatFreddy88 said:
I don't think it sounds cool. I think it's plausible because Lennon was politically-informed and millions listened when he spoke. He had the potential to inform millions of people who otherwise wouldn't have been informed. From the government's point of view, the more informed people there are, the harder it is for them to overthrow foreign governments and install puppet presidents who let American companies steal the resources of their countries as the American people will know that the official government version of what's happening is BS.

snip john-lennon.com/whokilledjohnlennon.htm
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I love it when someone posts a conspiracy site that wants to stick an activex on my computer!
 
King may not have been as hyperfamous in the 70s as he would later become in the 80s and 90s, but he was still one of the most famous authors in America by 1980. I can't bring myself to plough through that wall of text on that website but is he suggesting that the CIA recruited a famous writer to commit the murder and then pin it on some nobody? Wouldn't it have been smarter/simpler to just recruit a nobody to commit the murder? I think we can safely say that the person who came up with this "theory" was not around in the 70s (or at best "barley" around) and that he suffers from some mental disorder (ergotism?;)).
 
Ah yes, I keep forgetting, "The Big Lie". The big, stupid, unwieldy, "so crazy it just might work" lie.;) It sounds like a compelling, reasonable idea to teenagers, the mentally ill and Hitler, but a laughably bad idea to everyone else.
 
patchbunny said:
Yeah, I've seen it a couple of times in San Francisco, but it's been years now. Not sure if he still lives in that area.
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He still slips onto some of the local call in talk radio shows every now and then. The hosts (all of them from every possible spectrum from right to left to... well anything) usually cut him off about 2 seconds into his spiel. I remember Pete Wilson used to get him a lot (I think that his engineer liked to mess with him) when he had the afternoon show on KGO. His reaction was always good for a giggle because he really was trying to be a nice guy to the nutjob but eventually even he just gave up on it (it was his first (and sadly his last) talk radio gig, before that he was a well known local news anchor for years).

I think that the last time I heard him was when he called into Dr. Bill Wattenburg's weekend show about a year or so back.
 
patchbunny said:
Yeah, I've seen it a couple of times in San Francisco, but it's been years now. Not sure if he still lives in that area.
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Someone pointed out it to me when I was in SF once, in a "look, one of out local loonies" sense. It must be ten years ago now.:(
 
FatFreddy88 said:
I don't think it sounds cool. I think it's plausible because Lennon was politically-informed and millions listened when he spoke. He had the potential to inform millions of people who otherwise wouldn't have been informed. From the government's point of view, the more informed people there are, the harder it is for them to overthrow foreign governments and install puppet presidents who let American companies steal the resources of their countries as the American people will know that the official government version of what's happening is BS.

http://www.john-lennon.com/whokilledjohnlennon.htm
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Which is why the government held off killing him until he'd been out of the public eye for nigh on 5 years. This is why that idea never held up.

The Lennon of 1980 was not the Lennon of the early 70s.
 
The imagination, dedication, mental gymnastics. In something real and positive the guy could have been a success. His delusion is sad.
 
Tolls said:
Which is why the government held off killing him until he'd been out of the public eye for nigh on 5 years. This is why that idea never held up.

The Lennon of 1980 was not the Lennon of the early 70s.
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Yes. The John Lennon of 1980 was a mellow househusband more interested in spending quality time with his son than starting revolutions, musical or otherwise. At the end of his life John was about as dangerous to the establishment as, well, Paul*. Ironically, that's what got Lennon killed; being viewed as a sellout by some doughy nobody who wanted to write himself into the Beatles story in the only way he could. This nobody also shared several traits with your average CTist; sad, bitter, lonely young men, always reading too much into things and always blaming the wrong person for their own problems. It doesn't surprise me in the least that CTists see him (like Oswald before him) as a patsy. He was one of them, but as usual they are too thick to see that.





* Though that may sound snarky, I don't mean that as a criticism. By 1980 both John and Paul had done more to make this planet a better, happier place than all the Conspiracy Theorists who ever lived put together.
 
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FatFreddy88 said:
The idea that Stephen King did it is ridiculous but he still might have been bumped off by the government.
What this guy says makes sense (yes, I know he's in jail for murder now).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d91OevA-7_A

He was a peacenik during the Vietnam war. He was an informed person and millions of people listened to him when he talked. If he's started to explain American foreign policy to his fans, that would have been a big problem for the government as they wanted to keep us thinking inside the box.

Here's some stuff about American foreign policy that he knew about and most of his fans didn't know about.
http://www.politicalforum.com/history-past-politicians/149071-american-imperialism.html

The idea that the US government bumped him off with a manchurian candidate makes perfect sense.
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Actually the government killed John Lennon in 1969. Remember the whole Paul is dead thing? That was a distraction to make sure nobody was paying attention to Lennon when they put in the substitute.
 
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