Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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Yeah, this thread is so damn convoluted it's hard to remember what DOC's been up to.


I'll simplify it for you:
If DOC brings up a seemingly unrelated point, there's a 90% chance he's done so before, and had it refuted.
 
A timely reminder.

What have you got to say for yourself about this sad little sidebar, DOC?

As zooterkin pointed out you misquoted your own source to come up with a description of Frederick Douglass as "the most well known black man in America" and have been shown in no uncertain terms how ridiculous it was to try and add this spin.

Please don't mistake this as me offering you an opportunity to correct the record with grace and humility. This is me handing you a virtual shovel.

Don't let me down.

Nobody in Europe has heard of this Douglass character. Doc shoots himself in the foot yet again.
 
You understand the Jefferson Bible deliberately omits mention of Christ's alleged miracles, divinity and supernatural events?

Doc has been told that about one hundred times already in this thread,but still he keeps bringing Jefferson into it. Why he does this is a mystery. Jefferson owned slaves,so maybe that's why.
 
Nobody in Europe has heard of this Douglass character. Doc shoots himself in the foot yet again.
Not that I want to give life to DOC or his non-arguments, but when I read his post about Douglass I took it to mean that Douglass was the most famous black man of the time, not the most famous black man ever in American history. On re-reading, I don't find a reason to change my interpretation.

Of course, while Douglass may have been the most famous of his time, it is not a certainty. Other contenders include Sojourner Truth, Booker T. Washington, Harriet Tubman, and (remotely possibly) Nat Turner, though by Douglass' time of fame Turner would have been a memory and Washington's fame reached its zenith after Douglass' death.
 
It's anyone's guess what DOC understands, but this has been pointed-out to him innumerable times.

DOC even stopped citing Jefferson for a while when the Jefferson Gambit got ripped to pieces every.single.time.
Yeah, this thread is so damn convoluted it's hard to remember what DOC's been up to.


I noticed your policy is to lay low for awhile and then bring the topic back when you think people have forgot. Oh, well, its your reputation.


;)
 
It's anyone's guess what DOC understands, but this has been pointed-out to him innumerable times.

DOC even stopped citing Jefferson for a while when the Jefferson Gambit got ripped to pieces every.single.time.
Yeah, this thread is so damn convoluted it's hard to remember what DOC's been up to.


I noticed your policy is to lay low for awhile and then bring the topic back when you think people have forgot. Oh, well, its your reputation.


;)
DOC has MPD and that was written by one of his alters about himself? ;)

Oh, DOC, now what about Luke 2:2?
 
You have the right to believe that. And I have the right to believe the different opinions of other scholars.

And if what you said is true, those liars were good to get Thomas Jefferson to spend his time cutting and pasting their work and putting many of their verses in a 60+ page book with each verse translated into 4 different languages. He didn't even do that for Plato, Aritstotle, and Socrates.

DOC. May I suggest you buy or borrow a new book by the eminent scholar Bart Ehrman titled "Forged" which deals with just that. It was quite common for someone to claim another's name so as to give his writings authority.
The 6 letters of Paul which most scholars now know aren't authentic is a good example.
 
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The 6 letters of Paul which most scholars now know aren't authentic
Really? Could I trouble you for a cite/background info that doesn't require me to read an entire book?

Those letters always made Paul seem like a class A d-bag. Maybe I've been unfairly harshin' on old Saul this entire time over something someone else wrote under cover of his authority. Do we have anything that people think really came from him?
 
Really? Could I trouble you for a cite/background info that doesn't require me to read an entire book?

Those letters always made Paul seem like a class A d-bag. Maybe I've been unfairly harshin' on old Saul this entire time over something someone else wrote under cover of his authority. Do we have anything that people think really came from him?
Wikis take on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_epistles
 
You have the right to believe that. And I have the right to believe the different opinions of other scholars.

And if what you said is true, those liars were good to get Thomas Jefferson to spend his time cutting and pasting their work and putting many of their verses in a 60+ page book with each verse translated into 4 different languages. He didn't even do that for Plato, Aritstotle, and Socrates.
The obvious answer is that he fond nothing offensive in the works of Plato, Aritstotle, and Socrates that he needed to purge.
 
You have the right to believe that. And I have the right to believe the different opinions of other scholars.

And if what you said is true, those liars were good to get Thomas Jefferson to spend his time cutting and pasting their work and putting many of their verses in a 60+ page book with each verse translated into 4 different languages. He didn't even do that for Plato, Aritstotle, and Socrates.
Jefferson also didn't call the works of plato, aristotle or socrates dung heaps. I guess he didn't think they needed editing.
 
This thread has gone on for YEARS and the ****** XTians STILL do not realize they are SHOOTING BLANKS?.

(aside) Kids, you cannot prove the impossible, no matter how hard you try. What you need to do is find support for the improbable, and write off anybody who demands more proof. Religions for thousands of years have known that they cannot ask for more than the minimum.
 
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Goebles taught that if one tells a lie for long enough times, people actually believe it's true.
It's how christianity arose in the first place.
 
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