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Congressman Weiner's inappropriate tweet

Newtons Bit said:
Well, the Rep. is saying that he doesn't know if the picture is actually of him or not. Which is... well... odd.
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That quote was part of a much longer answer and it's possible he meant "did that picture come from you". At this point, I think it's clear that he's having a hard time dealing with the situation. But that's not the relevant question. Is he the guy who tweeted the photo or did someone else make it look like him?
 
Newtons Bit said:
Well, the Rep. is saying that he doesn't know if the picture is actually of him or not. Which is... well... odd.
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I too find it odd, but also an indication that he might be telling the truth.

After all, if you're going to deny something embarrassing that you've done, why stop short at one of the more salacious and impossible to prove details?
 
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Ziggurat said:
Whose argument? That was certainly never something I suggested. In fact, I can't recall anyone in this thread suggesting that. So... strawman.
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Really? Have you not read any of the coverage? The woman was so bombarded by accusations that she was a hussy carrying on an affair with Weiner that she tried to shut down all of her online profiles.

Nevertheless, there are only two options if Weiner did send the picture:

1) He sent it to someone with whom he had a prior relationship.
2) He sent it out purely at random.

The woman from Washington has explicitly and in some detail denied 1, and 2 is insane.

It's a preposterous argument you've bought into. It's a shame you still haven't learned your lesson concerning Breitbart.
 
Ziggurat said:
She never claimed that he didn't send the picture. Which makes sense, because she's in no position to determine who sent it. I don't know why you keep trying to advance that particular fiction.
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Has she ever claimed that she received a tweet from Weiner with the link to the photo?

She seems to reference tweets from a harasser, but not from Weiner.
 
Newtons Bit said:
Well, the Rep. is saying that he doesn't know if the picture is actually of him or not. Which is... well... odd.
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I couldn't find that in all the yapping from the Fox Boobs people. Care to give us a time mark on that?

The way those drongos keep harping on this issue, ignoring everything that he wants to make public makes it look more like the sludge monster is creating a smoke screen for some other big scandal about to break, like this matter that Weiner mentions about the dimbulb SCOTUS member with a serious conflict of interest problem with the health care issue.
 
Unabogie said:
That quote was part of a much longer answer and it's possible he meant "did that picture come from you". At this point, I think it's clear that he's having a hard time dealing with the situation. But that's not the relevant question. Is he the guy who tweeted the photo or did someone else make it look like him?
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Complex question falacy?
 
The account that these tweets were sent from was familiar to me; this person had harassed me many times after the Congressman followed me on Twitter a month or so ago. Since I had dealt with this person and his cohorts before I assumed that the tweet and the picture were their latest attempts at defaming the Congressman and harassing his supporters.
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HoshizoraZankou said:
Care to try that again?
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Try what? I'm quoting the lady.
 
Bjorn said:
Try what? I'm quoting the lady.
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Sorry! I was addressing that comment to Ziggurat, calling out what I saw as a clearly inaccurate statement on his part. I appreciate your posting her words and the link. Didn't mean to confuse you with my comment.

Ziggurat said:
That's a statement about what she assumed to be the case at an early stage of this whole mess. It is not a statement about what she believes now, let alone what she ever actually knew. Again, she's not in any better position than the rest of us to know who sent the tweets, so her opinion on the issue is of no significance here.
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No, I think her opinion's relevant. After all, if she's not mad herself, then why are people going to so much effort to get mad on her behalf about the inappropriate message that Rep. Weiner sent her?
 
A private dick needs to be hired to look into this, if you ask me.
 
TraneWreck said:
Really? Have you not read any of the coverage?
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Appealing to coverage elsewhere won't indicate what people in this thread have said. And what other people have said won't indicate what I've said.

Nevertheless, there are only two options if Weiner did send the picture:

1) He sent it to someone with whom he had a prior relationship.
2) He sent it out purely at random.
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False dichotomy. For example, he might have found her attractive and thought she might be receptive. That requires no prior relationship, and it's not random either.
 
HoshizoraZankou said:
No, I think her opinion's relevant. After all, if she's not mad herself, then why are people going to so much effort to get mad on her behalf about the inappropriate message that Rep. Weiner sent her?
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You just moved the goalpost. TW brought up her statement in the context of trying to prove it wasn't Weiner who sent the tweet, and you quoted her to try to challenge my claims about how irrelevant her statement is to that question. That is completely separate from the issue of how serious sending the pics was.
 
Newtons Bit said:
It's apparently from an MSNBC interview. It's at the very beginning.
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You need to become a little more proficient in legalese.

You also need to find a clip with a little more context. We cannot even be certain what the interviewer actually asked him.

I have seen slime boy Breitbart provide more useful video evidence.

This aint evidence at all.
 
leftysergeant said:
You need to become a little more proficient in legalese.

You also need to find a clip with a little more context. We cannot even be certain what the interviewer actually asked him.

I have seen slime boy Breitbart provide more useful video evidence.

This aint evidence at all.
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WTF are you ranting about?
 
Ziggurat said:
Appealing to coverage elsewhere won't indicate what people in this thread have said. And what other people have said won't indicate what I've said.



False dichotomy. For example, he might have found her attractive and thought she might be receptive. That requires no prior relationship, and it's not random either.
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Oy. Seriously?

Weiner either had a prior relationship with the woman or didn't. If he didn't then however he targeted her, he was sending a picture of his wang to a person who could have reacted in a million different ways, including turning the picture over to the press herself.

That would be preposterous.
 
TraneWreck said:
Weiner either had a prior relationship with the woman or didn't. If he didn't then however he targeted her, he was sending a picture of his wang to a person who could have reacted in a million different ways, including turning the picture over to the press herself.

That would be preposterous.
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The fact that it would be stupid to do something doesn't mean that a person won't do it. I mean, have you met humans?
 
Ziggurat said:
The fact that it would be stupid to do something doesn't mean that a person won't do it. I mean, have you met humans?
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Please. You have Andrew Breitbart + an allegation that a Congressman did some cosmically stupid on a level that exceeds the Favre standard.

That doesn't make it impossible, it does, however, mean that one should view all of this with a great deal of skepticism (in the colloquial sense).

If Weiner is randomly (in so far as he has no prior relationship) sending out pictures of his junk, there would be quite a bit more evidence to work with. This is known as the "Tiger Woods corollary."
 
Ziggurat said:
The fact that it would be stupid to do something doesn't mean that a person won't do it. I mean, have you met humans?
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And yet the core of your position is that he is stupid for not reporting the crime if he didn't send the tweet, therefore he sent the tweet?

There's a meter around here for this sort of thing . . .
 
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