Do you really think making childish rhetoric is going to pass as an argument?
I used the correct description of the situation.
Originally Posted by Matt Giwer View Post
Do you really think the world is going to let Israel continue with its tyrannical dictatorship over the Palestinians forever?
If you have a factual problem with this factual statement you are free to take issue with it. Please do so. I love dealing with the izziehuggers. They are such easy targets.
The US understands Israel needs to defend itself and will support that.
That has nothing to do with the jewish tyranny over the Palestinians.
If the case were that Israel was attacking Palestinians and not the other way around, they might not support Israel. But until then, no one can deny that Israel has a right to defend itself and people making rhetoric arguments like that does not change the actual facts of the issue. You can call them anything you want, but the facts are the facts. You can call Santa Claus a tyrannical dictator if you want as well. It has no meaning to the actual facts at hand.
The facts are the Jews are maintaining a dictatorship over the Palestinians. They are totally subject to the jewish military that rules them. That jewish, military dictatorship does not recognize the Palestinians as having any human or civil rights.
If you have evidence to the contrary no one is stopping you from posting it.
The US will always veto the unfair rulings of the UN. The UN is as corrupt as it gets and when member nations call for unfair sanctions, the US will not support them and will continue to point out the double standards being used by many of the member nations. Nations who use standards like yours. Essentially if they are jewish or Israeli, they are wrong. If they are arab, they are right. Like you, they will use weak arguments that appeal to nothing more than name calling.
Your dislike of the UN is your business but were it not for the UN Israel would not be a member nor recognized by it as a lawful sovereign state.
But as all educated people know sanctions can only be imposed by the Security Council. As the US vetoes SC measures against Israel there is never anything to overrule. As you know that is the case why do you post nonsense?
********. Israel is the only one willing to make concessions. The entire issue would be a non-issue if Palestinians would simply stop attacking Israel. Most of the border decisions are to protect from attacks. If the attacks weren't happening, then the borders would hardly be an issue. You'd be down to a silly religious dispute over Jerusalem.
Can you name any concessions Israel has made which come within a country mile of the PA recognizing Israel in 78% of Palestine?
As to stopping attacks that happened years ago. Israel and the US have recognized they have stopped. It is unclear what you are talking about. Please explain with examples that I cannot address by citing Jewish attacks upon Palestinians. No one is stopping you. Please post your examples.
Border decisions were made back in 1948 when the UN recognized Israel AT ITS REQUEST within those boundaries. Borders are not a unilateral option.
Declaring borders to be armistice lines is simply stupid. If they are armistice lines then they are the same as the armistice lines of WWI and are not borders. As you know about WWI then you know Germany had to retreat from the armistice lines.
Armistice lines are not borders. You cannot have it both ways.
Funny though how you have no problem with all the rejections from Palestine which have gone since the beginning. But when the Jews dare not budge on their issues, it's then their fault. Talk about being a hypocrite.
That is a principle that developed during WWII. The occupying power can do no right. The occupied can do no wrong. The occupied are even encouraged to kill the occupiers. That is lawful by international law. The Palestinians have no power but refusal of the demands of the occupying power.
In this case the occupying is criminal was Hague V and Geneva IV require the occupying power to administer the land to the benefit of the occupied with the sole exception of military necessity. Israel recognized this until the peace treaty was signed with Jordan. After that Israel stopped saying putting civilians in harm's way was a military necessity. After that is created a different set of lies.
No, Israel is better than Jordan.
It is sort of amusing to see how deep down in the barrel izziehuggers have to go to find a country Israel is better than. When Israel gets half way to the standards of Sweden you Izziehuggers should get back to me. In fact if you ever get up to the standards of Turkey get back to me.
And better than Israel. How funny it is how people like you use bogus claims about tyrannical dictatorships but don't seem to have any complaints about the countries who took that land to begin with and actually DO slaughter civilians.
I use the terms tyranny and dictatorship within the standard dictionary meanings of the words. I can only recommend you consult a dictionary although I find it incredible that a person of your intelligence does not know the meanings of the words.
And again, why the 1948 borders? Why not the 1917 borders?
If Israel does not want the borders granted to it by the UN it need only say so. It is an unfair institution after all.
Maybe, just maybe, those people should have thought about that before they participated in the "drive the Jews into the sea" campaign?
Jews stole the land starting in 1949. The owners want it back. The Palestinians were not involved in the 1948 war. They were driven from Palestine by Jews as many jewish and israeli researchers have shown using Israeli records.
And please stop whining. Jews chose it. That is the way they wanted it.
And as mentioned, no one is stopping them from starting their own state. They could have done that at any time but have chosen not to. They didn't do it before 1948 either did they? Yet somehow it's the fault of the Jews...
As the Jews started attacking them in 1922 with bombs in markets which indiscriminately murdered women and children it seems to me we know who started it all. But izziehuggers pretend ignorance when their knowledge of the subject is so much greater than they pretend.
