Vaccine/autism CT discussion

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Clayton Moore said:
I recommend THE STRANGE STORY OF THE QUANTUM by
Banesh Hoffmann for those of you who think science/medicine cannot advance via a path of wrong thinking.
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Hmmm

"This timeless exploration of the work of the great physicists of the early 20th century employs analogies, examples, and imaginative insights rather than computations to explain the dramatic impact of quantum physics on classical theory. Topics include Pauli's exclusion principle, Schroedinger's wave equation, Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, and many other concepts. 1959 edition."

All of these things were still developed and eventually tested via the scientific method. More to the point they were developed to solve problems in the field of physics.

Blaming vaccines on austism is more along the lines of the thinking that gave us 'ether' for so many years. Only nowhere near as good.
 
kookbreaker said:
Hmmm

"This timeless exploration of the work of the great physicists of the early 20th century employs analogies, examples, and imaginative insights rather than computations to explain the dramatic impact of quantum physics on classical theory. Topics include Pauli's exclusion principle, Schroedinger's wave equation, Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, and many other concepts. 1959 edition."

All of these things were still developed and eventually tested via the scientific method. More to the point they were developed to solve problems in the field of physics.

Blaming vaccines on austism is more along the lines of the thinking that gave us 'ether' for so many years. Only nowhere near as good.
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Kinda.

The point was, that even though a theory seemed completely logical, the next theory disproved it completely and logically. Again and again. And that's without an obvious profit motive.

http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/vaccine-programoffice-special-masters


Blaming autism on vaccines is more along the lines of the thinking that gave us 'ether' for so many years.

Blaming vaccines for austism is more along the lines of the thinking that gave us 'ether' for so many years.
 
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Clayton Moore said:
Kinda.

The point was, that even though a theory seemed completely logical, the next theory disproved it completely and logically. Again and again. And that's without an obvious profit motive.

http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/vaccine-programoffice-special-masters


Blaming autism on vaccines is more along the lines of the thinking that gave us 'ether' for so many years.

Blaming vaccines for austism is more along the lines of the thinking that gave us 'ether' for so many years.
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...the hell?

I have no idea what this means.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Kinda.

The point was, that even though a theory seemed completely logical, the next theory disproved it completely and logically. Again and again. And that's without an obvious profit motive.
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Incorrect. In all cases there was a large an obvious gap or flaw in the present theory that required new ideas and theories to fill the gaps. In you case you already have theories that more than explain the issue and fit the data as well.

And again, you've already had the profit issue explained to you. So stop barking 'profit' with regards to childhood vaccines. The profits just are not there compared to other kinds of medication.

http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/vaccine-programoffice-special-masters
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You are still grossly misrepresenting that program.

Blaming autism on vaccines is more along the lines of the thinking that gave us 'ether' for so many years.

Blaming vaccines for austism is more along the lines of the thinking that gave us 'ether' for so many years.
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I don't know what you were trying to prove but all you did is agree with me.
 
kookbreaker said:
A combination of bad quoting and further demonstration that he has no idea how science works. Its just another chance for him to bark 'profit! profit!'
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Blaming vaccines on austism is more along the lines of the thinking that gave us 'ether' for so many years. Only nowhere near as good.
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Blaming vaccines on autism is butt backwards.
 
Corsair 115 said:
Well, Clayton is also a Holocaust denier, so perhaps his comment makes sense after all when placed against that context...
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I'm curious why he hasn't responded to my pointing out that Wakefield patented a single dose measles vaccine........
 
Walter Ego said:
He's a 9/11 truther too. A trifecta! :D

Any bets on whether he'd like to see Obama's birth certificate?
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Let's see the scum I'm against include neoconservatives, Cheney, big Pharma, and liars like Elie Wiesel. I'm sure they're atop your BFF bucket list.
 
If you're against big pharma you are essentially against modern medicine. What type of medicine do you approve of Clayton?
 
catsmate1 said:
I'm curious why he hasn't responded to my pointing out that Wakefield patented a single dose measles vaccine........
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Did you mention that this means that Wakefield stands to gain financially from any perception that the MMR vaccine is unsafe? Or does the profit motive only serve to discredit the actions of whoever Clayton Moore wants it to discredit, for some reason?

Dave
 
Clayton Moore said:
Let's see the scum I'm against include neoconservatives, Cheney, big Pharma, and liars like Elie Wiesel. I'm sure they're atop your BFF bucket list.
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OK, now he is a birther, a truther, a holocaust denier, a big pharma conspiracist, a neocon nutbar, is there a CT he doesn't believe?

Hey, Clayton, what about chemtrails? Can we add that to your gullibility index?
 
abaddon said:
OK, now he is a birther, a truther, a holocaust denier, a big pharma conspiracist, a neocon nutbar, is there a CT he doesn't believe?

Hey, Clayton, what about chemtrails? Can we add that to your gullibility index?
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Birther? Evidence?

So I guess you think

Let's see the scum I'm against include neoconservatives, Cheney, big Pharma, and liars like Elie Wiesel. I'm sure they're atop your BFF bucket list.
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all of those people are solid citizens?
 
Dave Rogers said:
Your inability to comprehend, not only the points of view of others, but the feasibility of anyone having a different point of view to yours, makes it rather ironic that you're posting on a thread about autism.

Dave
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You're the one who would put children at risk by allowing them 22 shots before the age of 2!!!

Do you think that that 22 shot sequence was ever studied?

What child would encounter those 22 diseases before the age of 2?
Or a lifetime? How many of those diseases are life threatening?

Birth

* Hep B: Hepatitis B vaccine (HBV); recommended to give the first dose at birth, but may be given at any age for those not previously immunized.

1-2 months

* Hep B: Second dose should be administered 1 to 2 months after the first dose.

2 months

* DTaP: Diphtheria, tetanus, and acellular pertussis vaccine
* Hib: Haemophilus influenzae type b vaccine
* IPV: Inactivated poliovirus vaccine
* PCV: Pneumococcal conjugate vaccine
* Rota: Rotavirus vaccine

4 months

* DTaP
* Hib
* IPV
* PCV
* Rota

6 months

* DTaP
* Hib
* PCV
* Rota

Continue

6 months and annually

* Seasonal influenza. Beginning in the 2010-2011 flu season, the seasonal influenza vaccine will protect against H1N1 flu, as well as other flu strains.

The vaccine is recommended every year for children older than 6 months. Kids under 9 who get a flu vaccine for the first time will receive it in two separate doses a month apart.

Although children 6 months to 5 years old are still considered the group of kids who need the flu vaccine the most, updated guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) now recommend that all older kids and teens get it, too (as long as enough is available).

It's especially important for high-risk kids to be vaccinated. High-risk groups include, but aren't limited to, kids with asthma, heart problems, sickle cell anemia, diabetes, or human immunodeficiency virus (HIV).

It can take up to 2 weeks after the shot is given for the body to build up immunity against the flu.

6-18 months

* Hep B
* IPV

12-15 months

* Hib
* MMR: Measles, mumps, and rubella (German measles) vaccine
* PCV
* Varicella (chickenpox) vaccine

12-23 months

* Hep A: Hepatitis A vaccine; given as two shots at least 6 months apart

15-18 months

* DTaP

4-6 years

* DTaP
* MMR
* IPV
* Varicella

11-12 years

* HPV: Human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine, given as 3 shots over 6 months. It's recommended for girls to prevent genital warts and cervical cancers. The vaccine also may be given to boys to prevent genital warts.
* Tdap: Tetanus, diphtheria, and pertussis booster
* MCV: Meningitis vaccine; with a booster dose at age
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http://kidshealth.org/parent/growth/medical/immunization_chart.html#
 
Clayton Moore said:
So I guess you think

Let's see the scum I'm against include neoconservatives, Cheney, big Pharma, and liars like Elie Wiesel. I'm sure they're atop your BFF bucket list.
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all of those people are solid citizens?
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Please explain how any of those on your list are not solid citizens. Why is Big Pharma not a solid citizen for example?
 
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