Ed Pentagon - TruthMakesPeace

Clayton Moore said:
ahahahahah Residue? How about a building or two or three pulverized into dust as a result of falling on themselves?
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Dust...?
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Clayton Moore said:
beachnut said:
E=mgh is the available energy, if do the math you will find more than enough energy to do the damage seen.
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That's insane.
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For someone that lives in your fantasy world of failed claims on 911, physics is insane. You don't do physics, why is this not a big surprise?
 
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Clayton Moore said:
That's insane.
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Can you produce calculations to the contrary? Because otherwise all you got is your opinion, which is not physics, contrary to popular CT belief.
 
Dave Rogers said:
A quick look at recorded history reveals that, in WW1, British aircraft were routinely flying at altitudes of 10,000 feet and more as early as 1915, and that by 1917 flights up to 20,000 feet were not unusual, yet the Royal Flying Corps didn't start using oxygen until 1918. Maybe people pass out more easily these days.

Dave
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Mount Everest comes to mind.
And those who climb without oxygen
 
TruthMakesPeace said:
Sorry if I missed your post, and want to answer as many questions as possible which are asked in an adult, intellectual manner.
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I don’t mind asking questions in an adult, intellectual manner, but I expect in return an adult intellectual answer.

TruthMakesPeace said:
You bring up a good question. A simple explanation is preferable to one that raises complications.

The www.911Pentagon.org site has recently changed to propose gradual cabin depressurization instead of gas. Simply removing breathable air would serve the same nefarious purpose as gassing. Opening a valve by remote control, to let air escape, could have accomplished this. During extreme fuselage depressurization, the oxygen masks would be ineffective.
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It appears that neither you or the web site you link to, know anything about aircraft pressurization. The air in the pressurized section of the aircraft is constantly exchanged with fresh air. And, if the air pressure inside the cabin drops below the required amount, an alarm will sound and oxygen masks will deploy automatically.


TruthMakesPeace said:
The web site used to propose they were put in the baggage section by agents on the baggage handling crew

I have looked. Cyanide tanks could have been in the luggage area. The flights less populated than the average so there was more room.
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How many, and what size tanks would be required?

TruthMakesPeace said:
If you mean connected to the Oxygen system, the theory proposes that agents on the ground crew did it.
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No, I mean the pressurization system of the aircraft. Again, you and your web site don't know how the system works.

TruthMakesPeace said:
Depressurization is a simpler explanation. So a covert ground crew could have installed remote controlled air release valve(s).
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Although not remotely controlled, these valves are already installed on the aircraft. They are called outflow valves.

It is really a shame that people like you can be so easily led by another individual with no knowledge whatsoever.
 
W.D.Clinger said:
Flatlanders...


I doubt that.

Wolf Creek Pass is well over 10,000 feet, but few of those who drive the four-lane highway over that pass actually fall asleep.

The road over Milner Pass rises to more than 12,000 feet. Most drivers manage to stay awake.
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At 25,000 feet we have a select few who will claim, oxygen, who needs oxygen, and they might not be useful, but they keep on ticking, three to five minutes, some go longer. At 31,000 feet you will not last long. We would go to 25,000 feet, in the chamber, and learn our symptoms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_of_useful_consciousness
 
TruthMakesPeace said:
According to the theory, passengers were allowed to make calls, to get the official story out. Then "At about 10000 feet above sea level, remote controlled plastic explosives blew about 20 windows at once, balanced with 10 each side of the fuselage, so the plane would stay level, and equalize drag. This caused rushes of air to be released simultaneously and evenly, so the fuselage was not significantly damaged. This froze, asphyxiated and incapacitated the crew, passengers, and hijackers into unconsciousness."


I agree with your good point. The air release valve idea is too complicated and slow. Blowing the windows with plastic explosives would be much easier, faster, and effective.
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Funny, I spent a week in Cusco Peru (elevation 11,200 ft) and I was never unconscious (though my daughter said I was a bit ornery.) You might want to explain to the citizens of La Paz Bolivia (elevation 11,942, population over 850,ooo) that they are frozen and asphyxiated.
 
The Truther mindset reminds me of a test I gave to a job applicant today. The test is to check the candidate's proficiency in relatively advanced features in Microsoft Excel (macros, conditional formatting, VLOOKUPs, etc.). At one point the applicant stopped and told me rather tersely that one of the questions "made no sense" and intimated that the test was "unfair". I looked over her shoulder as she read the question back to me and could see that due to (understandable) nervousness* and perhaps even some mild dyslexia(?), she was completely misreading the question. That I have no problem with. What I did have a problem with is that instead of operating under the assumption that she was making a perfectly reasonable mistake, her first instinct was to find fault with the question (and by extension the person who wrote the question), rather than to take a breath and calmly doublecheck herself to see if she might be the one making the mistake. If that's the way she is going to conduct herself during a job interview (when people are theoretically on their best behavior), how is she going to perform as an employee?

That's the kind of behavior I see day in and day out here when reading the comments of Conspiracy Theorists. They don't understand a given subject, but through some noxious combination of ignorance and pride assume that if they don't understand a given explanation (e.g., why fire can lead to the eventual collapse of a skyscraper), there must be something wrong with the explanation, not with their comprehension (or lack thereof) of said explanation.






*In interests of full disclosure I am a lousy interviewee. I took the same test when I first interviewed there and got one or two answers wrong myself.
 
TruthMakesPeace said:
According to the theory, passengers were allowed to make calls, to get the official story out. Then "At about 10000 feet above sea level, remote controlled plastic explosives blew about 20 windows at once, balanced with 10 each side of the fuselage, so the plane would stay level, and equalize drag. This caused rushes of air to be released simultaneously and evenly, so the fuselage was not significantly damaged. This froze, asphyxiated and incapacitated the crew, passengers, and hijackers into unconsciousness."
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That has got to be one of the most mind-bogglingly stupid things I have ever heard outside the David Icke forums.
 
TruthersLie said:
Maybe Cicorp couldn't find this link.
Here you go. The technical analysis of how crazy and impossible his "theory" is.
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I think he ignored it because of the big, scary acronyms and pictures that are not drawn in crayon.
 
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