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Merged Freeman on the Land in America/lawful rebellion/sovereign citizens

Hektor said:
Not only that but if they are so corrupt, why would they have to play by the freeman get out of jail/debt/taxes free card? Wouldn't the very definition of corruption imply that the government in that case would just ignore the "real freeman law"?
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That's why the whole thing doesn't make sense.
 
tsig said:
When are you going to start putting those ideas into practice?
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that would be pretty challenging since I have not found any legal evidence to support the video's claims. It does cite Black's Law dictionary but that seems to be the only source FOTLers use. (and its a dictionary)
 
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Hektor said:
I am a newbie to this whole FMOL stuff. However watching that video made my head hurt. Honestly, if our true representative government was replaced by an evil corporation, then why would they have to create a legal fiction to make money off of you? Couldn't they just do what they do in all dictatorships and just use their monopoly on legal violence to force compliance? Not only that but if they are so corrupt, why would they have to play by the freeman get out of jail/debt/taxes free card? Wouldn't the very definition of corruption imply that the government in that case would just ignore the "real freeman law"?
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You will never receive answers to these questions. The effect they have on footles is like garlic to a vampire.
 
therival58 said:
that would be pretty challenging since I have not found any legal evidence to support the video's claims. It does cite Black's Law dictionary but that seems to be the only source FOTLers use. (and its a dictionary)
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And an American one at that (the film appeared to be from and relating to the UK). And they always seem to cite out of date editions of it.
 
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therival58 said:
that would be pretty challenging since I have not found any legal evidence to support the video's claims. It does cite Black's Law dictionary but that seems to be the only source FOTLers use. (and its a dictionary)
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They might claim it's Black's Law but it seems to me it's Brownhole Law.
 
Mojo said:
And an American one at that (the film appeared to be from and relating to the UK). And they always seem to cite out of date editions of it.
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They never seem to get that citing a law dictionary to prove the law doesn't apply to you is a bit bizarre.

What they really need to cite are some natural laws like:

The strong eat the weak.

Ignorance is bliss
 
Another sovereign citizen "win"!:

ALBANY -- An anti-government group member apologized Friday for using bogus legal papers to intimidate and attack government officials in Ulster County.

Ed Parenteau was sentenced to 21 months in federal prison for filing false property liens against police officers, an assistant county prosecutor and a town justice. The 53-year-old Chenango County resident said he regretted the scheme and promised to help federal authorities investigate other so-called "paper terrorists."
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Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/default/article/Phony-paper-case-apology-1379324.php#ixzz1MLHEsMNJ

Now how exactly can this be? He did the right legal paperwork ritual: he filed false liens against every government official that interfered with his god given right to do whatever he wants (in this case, it was after he was caught trespassing).

But what do you know...the sovereign guru behind this lately victory is none other that Tim Turner, President of the Republic for the united States (we have whole thread about him too!). How is it that the "president" could charge for this information and it not be true?
 
My wife was watching "Parking Wars" over the weekend, and they were towing some guys car in Detroit. He was going over the usual excuses and suddenly blurted out, "I am a sovereign." In the end, his car was towed.
 
Disbelief said:
My wife was watching "Parking Wars" over the weekend, and they were towing some guys car in Detroit. He was going over the usual excuses and suddenly blurted out, "I am a sovereign." In the end, his car was towed.
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No wonder,he was claiming that he was a small defunct gold coin.
 
What to do with the sovereign citizen movement

There has been alot of talk about the sovereign citizen movement. Yes I am doing their work for them. They pay taxes though not voluntarily. Some do commit crimes such as putting leins on judges for which they are punished. Surely there is more that can be done to these scofflaws. I am thinking in terms of making it unlawful for them to congregate. Maybe that will put a stop it it. There is of course also re-education camps to consider.What does the CIA and FBI think about this?
 
I agree with the green fella. I'm going to keep making fun of them and see if that works out.
 
Well it does sound like the government is going to do something about them. Wonder what it is? Does it involve mancatchers and battering rams?
 
MNBrant said:
Well it does sound like the government is going to do something about them. Wonder what it is? Does it involve mancatchers and battering rams?
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Do you burn down your house because you saw a flea?

Read the relevant threads in the Conspiracy forum. You'll see that this movement is a bad joke and has no traction.
 
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsme...n_citizen_apolgizes_after_trillion-dollar.php

Welp, this would count as a failure, right?

http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110513/NEWS/110519910/-1/SITEMAP

Standard 'put liens on the property of everyone I dislike' routine. Wins jailtime and fines.

Edit: I see LightInDarkness got this too.

Edit2: Heeey.
But Parenteau said he realizes the teachings got him in trouble. He even pledged to cooperate in investigations against Turner.
"I'll tell people not to get involved with this guy because he's trouble," Parenteau said.
Federal authorities would not say whether Turner is under investigation. Assistant U.S. Attorney Rick Belliss would only say that other sovereigns are operating in New York and the public is likely to "see other prosecutions at some point."
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http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110514/NEWS/105140332


Run, Timmy!
 
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