Continuation Part 2 - Discussion of the Amanda Knox case

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HumanityBlues said:
It doesn't matter. The fault was Alt F4's reading comprehension. Even if it was a lie, it says in the damn article what blog post it was.
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Wrong. She added that later this afternoon after someone at Perugia Murder File said that was the blog post. Please keep up with what is happening, you are embarassing yourself.
 
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halides1 said:
LondonJohn,

Thanks for the information on the judge's name. According to Candace Dempsey, there was a misunderstanding or mistranslation of the following passage from Perugia-Shock:

"Saturday March 12, 2011
The first super witness Kokomani ended up in jail, and it seems that there is room even for the others. Like this I was concluding on March 12 2009. Indeed, Antonio ‘Toto’ Curatolo, the other main witness of the Knox-Sollecito case, is also now locked up in Capanne. Not for having ruined Amanda and Raffaele, though, but rather for dealing heroin. I remember the prosecutor was quite surprised, at the time when Toto came out, in hearing he was into drugs. But...."
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Meaning that Mignini (and presumably also Judge Belsito) misinterpreted the last "he" in that passage as meaning Mignini rather than Curatolo? If this really is the basis of this court order (let alone any forthcoming defamation trial), then Italian justice is in an even worse state than we thought.

Any lawyer or judge with any comprehension of English could easily recognise that the last "he" in that passage almost certainly referred to Curatolo (and, at the very most, was ambiguous). And if neither Mignini nor Belsito had sufficient English comprehension to understand that, then they should have consulted somebody who did.
 
Alt+F4 said:
Wrong. She added that later this afternoon after someone at Perugia Murder File said that was the blog post. Please keep up with what is happening, you are embarassing yourself.
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Wrong. It was up there this morning about 8 hours ago. Looks like both you and perugiamurderfile have problems with reading comprehension. You are right though, it is a little embarrassing to engage the semiliterate. It does feel like slumming it sometimes.
 
Alt+F4 said:
Wrong. She added that later this afternoon after someone at Perugia Murder File said that was the blog post. Please keep up with what is happening, you are embarassing yourself.
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But the information was there online in her PI article long before the time you posted about it some 50 minutes ago: maybe you should have checked before posting? And I don't really think you should be calling people out for embarrassing themselves either. Just sayin'...
 
LondonJohn said:
But the information was there online in her PI article long before the time you posted about it some 50 minutes ago: maybe you should have checked before posting? And I don't really think you should be calling people out for embarrassing themselves either. Just sayin'...
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I first posted on this about 4 hours ago, scrool up.
 
HumanityBlues said:
Wrong. It was up there this morning about 8 hours ago. Looks like both you and perugiamurderfile have problems with reading comprehension. You are right though, it is a little embarrassing to engage the semiliterate. It does feel like slumming it sometimes.
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I wonder where the next incisive, cogent argument from a pro-guilt commentator will come from. Their arguments seem to be getting increasingly irrational, wooly and/or plain wrong. I feel a Churchillian quote about the "end of the beginning" coming on.....
 
HumanityBlues said:
Wrong. It was up there this morning about 8 hours ago. Looks like both you and perugiamurderfile have problems with reading comprehension. You are right though, it is a little embarrassing to engage the semiliterate. It does feel like slumming it sometimes.
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Stop with your lies. The post was there, she didn't add the text of Frank's blog post until later this afternoon (Eastern time). I'm sorry you can't keep up.
 
Alt+F4 said:
I first posted on this about 4 hours ago, scrool up.
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Really, you ought to stop now. The post in which you specifically discussed this issue, where you said the quote below - specifically the bolded part:

It was Judge Belisto, not Mignini that issued the court order. Is there any evidence that she was confused about exactly what Frank blogged about? In addition since neither Frank or Candace have said which blog post(s) are the basis for the court order, the question of what "criminal acts" Belisto is referring to is left open. I agree that it is probably defamation, but what's new here? It seems to be very easy under Italian law to file a defamation suit against just about anyone who pisses you off. This seems to be more of "business as usual" Italian style than a plot against anyone who defends Amanda Knox.
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was written some 55 minutes ago. And when you wrote that post (which has formed the basis of all the further posts correcting you), Dempsey's updated article had been available for many hours. Please, please stop doing to yourself what you (wrongly) accused others of doing to themselves.
 
LondonJohn said:
I wonder where the next incisive, cogent argument from a pro-guilt commentator will come from. Their arguments seem to be getting increasingly irrational, wooly and/or plain wrong. I feel a Churchillian quote about the "end of the beginning" coming on.....
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You don't even read the posts you respond too, I'll try to keep them to a minimum in July (or September) when the convictions are upheld, which I guarantee they will be.
 
Alt+F4 said:
Stop with your lies. The post was there, she didn't add the text of Frank's blog post until later this afternoon (Eastern time). I'm sorry you can't keep up.
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I saw it this morning. Not my fault you failed to read something. But if you repeat it enough, maybe you'll get a few more people to believe you. I'm not saying you're a liar, I'm just saying you're not a very good reader.:rolleyes:
 
Alt+F4 said:
You don't even read the posts you respond too, I'll try to keep them to a minimum in July (or September) when the convictions are upheld, which I guarantee they will be.
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A stunning combination of an open mind and first-rate reasoning skills!

"Guarantee" hehehehehehehehehe :D
 
LondonJohn said:
Really, you ought to stop now. The post in which you specifically discussed this issue, where you said the quote below - specifically the bolded part: was written some 55 minutes ago. And when you wrote that post (which has formed the basis of all the further posts correcting you), Dempsey's updated article had been available for many hours. Please, please stop doing to yourself what you (wrongly) accused others of doing to themselves.
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What's wrong with you? In post #8205, which I posted at 2:15pm (Eastern time) I posted:

Candace states that she read the actual order and that it accuses Frank of "criminal acts" and that Mignini is as the “injured party” and complainant but she doesn't specify what these criminal acts are.
 
HumanityBlues said:
I saw it this morning. Not my fault you failed to read something. But if you repeat it enough, maybe you'll get a few more people to believe you. I'm not saying you're a liar, I'm just saying you're not a very good reader.:rolleyes:
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You might have read the post, you didn't read the text of Frank's post because she hadn't added it at that point.
 
LondonJohn said:
A stunning combination of an open mind and first-rate reasoning skills!

"Guarantee" hehehehehehehehehe :D
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Well I don't think you and the other cult members will freak out that much when it happens because there is always the Italian Supreme Court to to put your hopes on for a few more years. Gosh by the time this case makes it through the entire Italian judicial system the lovebirds may be eligible for parole.
 
Alt+F4 said:
What's wrong with you? In post #8205, which I posted at 2:15pm (Eastern time) I posted:

Candace states that she read the actual order and that it accuses Frank of "criminal acts" and that Mignini is as the “injured party” and complainant but she doesn't specify what these criminal acts are.
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Nothing's wrong with me. Perhaps you'd like to withdraw that somewhat personally insulting remark though..........

I don't care what you wrote at 2.15pm EST. But at 5.12pm EST you wrote the post which I reproduced above - you know, the one which stated that "neither Frank or Candace have said which blog post(s) are the basis for the court order". At the time you wrote that, Dempsey had long since updated her article to include the allegedly defamatory Perugia Shock post. Is it clear to you now?
 
Alt+F4 said:
Well I don't think you and the other cult members will freak out that much when it happens because there is always the Italian Supreme Court to to put your hopes on for a few more years. Gosh by the time this case makes it through the entire Italian judicial system the lovebirds may be eligible for parole.
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I am a "cult member" now, am I? Interesting that you're falling back to personal insults rather than trying to form decent arguments. Insults like that can earn you an extended holiday from here, by the way.......
 
LondonJohn said:
Nothing's wrong with me. Perhaps you'd like to withdraw that somewhat personally insulting remark though..........

I don't care what you wrote at 2.15pm EST. But at 5.12pm EST you wrote the post which I reproduced above - you know, the one which stated that "neither Frank or Candace have said which blog post(s) are the basis for the court order". At the time you wrote that, Dempsey had long since updated her article to include the allegedly defamatory Perugia Shock post. Is it clear to you now?
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Thank you for admitting that Candace updated her original blog post and that HumanityBlues could not have read the updated version this morning, Eastern time.
 
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