Merged Discussion of the moon landing "hoax"

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It would be easy to sift and wash sand to make it dust-free.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S30XLds5gc

I know there are prints that look like they're in fine sand but we don't see them when they're being made.



This video shows that the movement is consistent with the atmosphere explanation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0

If the initial away movement of the flag were caused by it's being repelled by static electricity, it wouldn't move back in the other direction even farther than it initially moved. It moves back toward the astronaut after it's moved away from him because of the air drawn toward him to fill the void caused by his passing.


So, do tell me, how much was von Braun and the rest of the engineers down in Huntsville building the Saturn V rockets paid to keep quiet about the products of their efforts not actually going to where they were designed to go? How much were all the folks over at North American Aviation who built the CM and all the guys over at Grumman who built the lunar landers? All of those many, many people just kept quiet about all their efforts being for nothing? How about all the astronauts? (Not all of whom actually flew on Apollo missions.)

You are apparently devoted to an utterly stupid and idiotic conspiracy theory in the face of absolutely overwhelming evidence against it (evidence which you apparently can't be bothered to read for yourself at the local public library), not to mention the conspiracy being self-defeating on purely logical terms.

Public libraries. Books. Read. Start now.
 
It would be easy to sift and wash sand to make it dust-free.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S30XLds5gc

I know there are prints that look like they're in fine sand but we don't see them when they're being made.



This video shows that the movement is consistent with the atmosphere explanation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0

If the initial away movement of the flag were caused by it's being repelled by static electricity, it wouldn't move back in the other direction even farther than it initially moved. It moves back toward the astronaut after it's moved away from him because of the air drawn toward him to fill the void caused by his passing.

Funny joke, and you tell it well.
 
This just goes to show that some people are hard wired to believe just about any stupid conspiracy theory they come across.
 
This is where most CT'ers fail utterly. They focus on could have. Sand could have be cleaned of dust, pictures could have been faked. Could have doesn't matter, prove what did happen.
 
I wonder why they don't believe in Computers seeing that they don't know how they work too.

And radios, TV, Planes etc etc etc.

Paul

:) :) :)
 
If you didn't see those footprints being made on live TV
If all the footage is still available, link to some that clearly shows one of those footprints in fine dust while it's being made.

Also, what you call "sand" does not at all compare to the regolith of the Moon.
I already know that. The issue is whether the stuff we see in the Apollo footage is large-grained sand. I don't see how it can't be.

All the regolith kicked up on the Moon follows a parabolic arc.
It sounds like you're seeing what you want to see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRSpntQ-VtY

The way the flag moves in this clip closes the whole case anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y

There you go. About 450 pages worth. Good luck!

I'll start taking a look at this this weekend when I have some more time.
http://abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread566601/pg1

Couldn't you just find one specific thing that proves it so I won't have to spend two hours looking for something substantial?

So, do tell me, how much was von Braun and the rest of the engineers down in Huntsville building the Saturn V rockets paid to keep quiet about the products of their efforts not actually going to where they were designed to go? How much were all the folks over at North American Aviation who built the CM and all the guys over at Grumman who built the lunar landers? All of those many, many people just kept quiet about all their efforts being for nothing? How about all the astronauts? (Not all of whom actually flew on Apollo missions.)
There are plausible scenarios that would explain this. Scientist can lie and if one wanted to come forward, the press wouldn't report what he said. It would even be downright dangerous for someone to try to spill the beans.
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfYBJFPuiwE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipKyUVuQ2Uk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvay28lZiHU

Here's some info on why we can't take what scientists publish as fact.

At about the 30 minute mark of this video a scientist says that science fraud is common.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3626298989248030643#

Scientists at the Rand Corporation say that depleted uranium is safe.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/docs/b04151999_bt170-99.htm

There are other scientists who say the opposite.
http://www.google.es/search?q=depleted uranium&tbs=vid:1

It's clear that the government can find scientists willing to sell out and lie.

Here's a scientists who say that it's impossible to get something published in a science journal if it goes against the official version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bAE7FGdNmA
(00:16 time mark)

If someone tried to blow the whistle, the press would ignore him or her.
http://www.thismodernworld.org/arc/1993/93short-attention-span.gif
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=chomsky+media&aq=f
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=Wi5h3vZl6uo
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=William+Schaap++-+The+Media,+CIA,+FBI+&+Disinfo.+&aq=f
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/MediaControl_Chomsky.html
http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199710--.htm
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/media_watch.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Propaganda/Propaganda_page.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media_control_propaganda/Media_Control.html
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/official_culture.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=trWcqxrQgcc
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Herman /Propaganda_System_One.html

We are lied to about history.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145531

http://theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/28159
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Q: Why do prominent astronomers like Sir Bernard Lovell and Patrick Moore support the Moon landings if they were faked?

A: Scientists and astronomers around the globe know full well that the Moon missions were faked, but rely on NASA to gain access to the vital data beamed back to Earth from the Hubble space telescope. They cannot slag off NASA otherwise NASA would deprive them of this essential information, which they so much require.
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Q: What about the vast number of people involved in Apollo, wouldn’t someone have spoken out.

A: Pan’s claim there were half a million people involved in the Apollo program, but that includes all the humble engineers working on machine parts in many companies around the globe. So if someone is making a part in some engineering factory in Seattle, and his boss tells him it’s for the Apollo spacecraft, is that engineer proof the landings took place? No of course it is not proof, and even if that engineer knew they never made it to the Moon, he would still brag to his friends that he made a part that went to the Moon just to make him feel proud in some way or other. Parts for the Apollo program were made at many different factories around the globe. For example the laser reflector supposedly left on the Moon was manufactured in France. NASA collected the unit from the French company, and that was the last they saw of it. It’s probably stashed away in some archive at Langley, but one things for certain it’s not on the Moon. Are those French engineers proof they landed on the Moon? No of course not, as very few, (probably less than 200 people), were actually involved in bringing the whole lot together, so as to minimize what was actually taking place. No need for any of them to speak out because (A) They are 100% patriotic to the USA, and would say nothing that would go against America, even if it were true. (B) They do not need millions of dollars to safeguard their future, as they have already received substantial amounts from NASA just to “keep mum”. Read comments from people who worked on the Apollo program in the APOLLO FEEDBACK section.

This is where most CT'ers fail utterly. They focus on could have. Sand could have be cleaned of dust, pictures could have been faked. Could have doesn't matter, prove what did happen.
If it's plausible that NASA sifted and washed sand to make it dust-free so that there wouldn't be any dust clouds, the fact that there were no dust clouds doesn't prove they were in a vacuum.
 
Is NASA lying to us about space radiation?

Take a look at this article about James Van Allen. I posted the whole thing in case it goes off-line.

http://www.buzzcreek.com/grade-a/MOON/articles1.htm
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THE VAN ALLEN ENIGMA
By Phylis and James Collier

In the early 1950's, a 35-year-old State University of Iowa physics professor and some of his students were cruising the cold waters ofnorthern Canada and the Atlantic Ocean, sending a series ofrocket-carrying balloons- which they dubbed "rockoons" - 12 to 15 miles into space.

They were trying to measure the nature of low-energy cosmic raysswirling around the earth. The experiments continued for five more years. Then, in 1958,Professor James Van Allen discovered his monster. Suddenly, his instrumentation warned of a giant beast of a thing, spewing enough deadly radiation counts to kill any human who ventured into its domain unprotected.

Van Allen and his students weren't sure of the size, shape and texture of the monster, they just knew they had encountered an incredible phenomenon.
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It looks like Van Allen changed his opinion when he started working for NASA.

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The proof that the moon missions were faked is crushing. Here's some of it in case there's anyone who hasn't seen it yet.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y
At the 2 minute 35 second mark of the video the flag is still. When the astronaut goes past it, it starts to move.

There's an analysis of that here in this three part series.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr76qSQ9ZQQ&feature=PlayList&p=41BF9062EF97A674&index=0&playnext=1


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A) you're not very imaginative if you have to keep wringing out the same old dirty dishrag.

B) You started this thread to spam post about radiation. Why are you going off-topic by your second post in it?

C) . . . and here we have the wall of links to threads where you get spanked, combing the worst features of self-obsession and low intellect.

Why do you feel the need to rehash teh EXACT SAME POINTS on every forum in the googleverse? Are you convinced that somehow, somewhere, your unsupported opinions won't be spanked with data?

D) You've been told repeatedly that the ApolloHoax.net forum != Clavius website -- why don't you get it yet?

E) In one of the threads you linked to I told you something interesting about jayutah. Please review the links you provide before posting them to make sure you don't embarrass yourself further.
 
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This has never been a problem on any other forum I've posted on. If I don't put all of the info on the first page, it will get buried and fewer people will see it. I just want everybody to see all of the info. Why is this bad?
 
The astronauts look pretty nervous at the press conference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RcKLAo62Ro

Here's a link to the entire conference.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...24572487804641

This keeps going on and offline so if this link is dead, try googling "Apollo 11 press conference".

Their behavior look pretty suspicious here too. It begins in the second half of the video.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...15730495966561

I've opined before and I'll do it again, to me they look hung over in that press conference. Prove me wrong.
 
This has never been a problem on any other forum I've posted on. If I don't put all of the info on the first page, it will get buried and fewer people will see it. I just want everybody to see all of the info. Why is this bad?

Maybe the biggest problem is that nobody wants to wade through a hundred links they've seen before on every forum where you post.
 
This has never been a problem on any other forum I've posted on. If I don't put all of the info on the first page, it will get buried and fewer people will see it. I just want everybody to see all of the info. Why is this bad?

Because, it is against the MA which you agreed to when you became a member of this site.
 
This has never been a problem on any other forum I've posted on. If I don't put all of the info on the first page, it will get buried and fewer people will see it. I just want everybody to see all of the info. Why is this bad?

We have rules here. Your unfamiliarity with them is not my problem. Try following them instead of complaining.
 
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