Life sentence for pot conviction. When will the madness end?

It starts in high school and just kinda turns into a service for friends that makes them a few extra bucks.
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Wonderful...what a society.

Maybe you could start a petition to get it going earlier, like in middle school? I'm sure middle schoolers are stressed out and need a break from reality too. There's gotta be a profitable market there.
 
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Puppycow said:
He's responsible for what he himself does, not "the criminal activity around the mj industry." That's like saying a gun manufacturer is responsible for gun violence or a supermarket is responsible for drunk driving because they sell beer and wine or a gas station is responsible for cancer because they sell cigarettes.
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No, it's nothing like those. He's participating in a criminal activity that generates other criminal activity.

Beretta isn't.

Budweiser isn't.

Not only that, he was given at least 2 huge breaks on prior charges...
 
dtugg said:
I think sending anyone to prison over drugs is outrageous but I have a hard time feeling sorry for this dumbass.
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I feel same way.

Possession, or even selling of marijuana should not be a crime at all, but as long as law exists, this kind of blatant repeat violation of it is just stupid.

Variation on Darwin Award.
 
I believe marijuana should be legalized as well. Unfortunately, it is not legal, so I am going to hold off on selling it from my house until it is legalized because I am aware of the consequences....I have a feeling the guy in the story was aware of the consequences as well.
 
Puppycow said:
Let's see. 15 years at $40,000 per year is $600,000. You are happy to pay this to "teach him a lesson"? Plus probably some extra government assistance for whoever has to step in to raise his son.
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But he will be employed while incarcerated for $3.00 an hour, saving some corporation thousands per year. The stock holders who benefit from this are ecstatic. What shall we privatize next?
 
If you remove reefer from the equation, you could almost justify the sentence because this guy is a serial dumb-ass.
 
If you think the law should be changed, it doesn't matter how stupid the guy is, you're supposed to be working for that law to be changed if you really believe it, and here is a victim of your law you're advocating for. The dude was expecting a light-sentence if this was three probations then life in jail, he was taking a risk and trying to make some extra money. The only reason he's doing that is because the backwards government has created a black market out of an herb. A freaking lucrative, guilt-free black market. Then they can't be consistent enough that he gets probation then life. Who's the bigger idiot in this situation? The party that actually has a responsibility to prevent bad things happening to the public in general.

You're not supposed to feel sorry for stupid people, you're supposed to make sure they don't get hurt by the stupid government.

Deputies also found $1,600 in cash and a student-loan application with Hood's name on it inside of a night stand.
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Aw look the stupid cretin was trying to go to school. Aw well good riddance you know he wasn't gonna pay it back anyway, a danger to society.
 
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Quad4_72 said:
I believe marijuana should be legalized as well. Unfortunately, it is not legal, so I am going to hold off on selling it from my house until it is legalized because I am aware of the consequences....I have a feeling the guy in the story was aware of the consequences as well.
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Unfortunately, when legalized, you won't be able to smoke it anyway. If tobacco smoke, and second hand tobacco smoke, are both intolerable, then mj smoke will be as well.

It's getting to the point where you can't smoke tobacco anywhere.

If you have kids, you are already under serious pressure not to smoke tobacco at home.

We have already had laws and lawsuits regarding smoking tobacco in your own home.

In some apartments and condos, you can't smoke, period. Not inside your own home, or outside in the common areas.

We've even had a lawsuit about tobacco smoke drifiting over from a neighboring house.

If you have kids, you will certainly not be allowed to smoke pot in your house.

Child protective services will be all over that.

MJ smoke will not be tolerated in society any more than tobacco smoke is.
 
Dancing David said:
That is the three strikes law in action is it not?

Nothing like it.
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Yes, under 20 grams is a misdemeanor. It's the intent to sell that the law really frowns upon. I don't think dealing weed is life sentence-worthy, either, but this guy has already been convicted twice. At some point he should have realized a) he's on his last strike and if he gets caught again, he's going to prison and b) he's apparently not that good at staying under the radar.
 
3bodyproblem said:
It seems excessive, but then again to get busted 4 times is excessively stupid. I'm on the fence with this one. I don't like the law and I don't see it as a crime but as a matter of principle you can't have people flagrantly disobeying the law. Given some of the stuff you hear about or read in magazines like High Times, like first time offenders getting 20 years for 20 hits of acid (or was that a song?), this doesn't seem like the type of guy you want to rally around. If not for the simple fact that outside of prison this guy will probably be dead in 2 years from sticking a knife in a toaster or something. This proactive Darwinism might be for his own good.
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How stupid this guy is as an individual and how society should deal with him are two different issues. It's not at all contradictory to believe this guy was stupid for getting into this situation while also believing that the law is egregiously wrong in penalizing him.

People will flagrantly disregard stupid laws. That's why alcohol prohibition didn't last, and that's why anti-sodomy laws and laws against miscegenation didn't stop people form being gay or getting involved in mixed-race relationships.

Yes this guy was stupid for putting himself at such extreme risk, but for me the larger issues are the bad behavior of our government, because that effects all of us.
 
If such a huge proportion of the population is in favor of legalization, why hasn't it occurred? You'd think mainstream candidates would want to latch on to a large chunk of voters if they wanted something popular enough.
 
TragicMonkey said:
If such a huge proportion of the population is in favor of legalization, why hasn't it occurred? You'd think mainstream candidates would want to latch on to a large chunk of voters if they wanted something popular enough.
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Because for most of this "chunk of voters" legalizing marijuana is a minor issue. It is not a deciding factor in whether or not to vote for someone. Whereas for those who want it to remain illegal it is a very big issue. They will never vote for someone who favors legalization, no matter what his other views are.

It is actually very common in politics -- a minority can get its agenda pushed through if it is determined, and opposing majority is lukewarm.
 
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First conviction: probation.
Second: ditto
Third: ditto
Fourth: life in prison. At age 35.

No indication of any violence or any other crime except possession and intent to distribute. This shouldn't even be a crime at all.

Why do most people accept the status quo? Does anyone really care about freedom?
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One strategy I've used to avoid a life sentence is to not distribute marijuana out of my home. Especially to not do it four times.

It's worked very well so far. Maybe I should write a book.
 
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TragicMonkey said:
If such a huge proportion of the population is in favor of legalization, why hasn't it occurred? You'd think mainstream candidates would want to latch on to a large chunk of voters if they wanted something popular enough.
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Not to mention the tax revenue.

Probably overstated in both cases. Not as popular as users would have us believe, and not as much potential tax revenue as sometimes claimed in legalization efforts.

Actually, I don't care what you smoke in your own home, I just wonder at the near total persecution of tobacco users...
 
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