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Vaccine/autism CT discussion

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Clayton Moore said:
The 9 vaccines did cause the autism.
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Have you any actual evidence for this assertion? Or are you just claiming your inexpert opinion makes it true?
I'm sure you'll provide you credentials in microbiology, biochemistry, virology, epidemiology and neurology then.

Clayton Moore said:
48hrs after she got 9 vaccines, I'm guessing by inoculation, she got autism, she became autistic.
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So you admit you know nothing about this case, not even the nature of the vaccines or their method of deployment. Further ignorance on display.

Clayton Moore said:
I don't give a crap what the decision says because the language of the decision was agreed to by opposing councils.
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And the parents.

Clayton Moore said:
And neither should you.
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So you're advocating we ignore this case then?
 
Documents emerge proving Dr Andrew Wakefield innocent; BMJ and Brian Deer caught misrepresenting the facts
http://www.naturalnews.com/031116_Dr_Andrew_Wakefield_British_Medical_Journal.html
(NaturalNews) New documents have emerged that clear Dr Andrew Wakefield of the allegations of fraud recently made by the British Medical Journal and its reporter Brian Deer. This new evidence "completely negates the allegations that I committed scientific
fraud. Brian Deer and Dr. Godlee of the British Medical Journal (BMJ) knew or should
have known about the facts set out below before publishing their false allegations," says Dr Andrew Wakefield (see sources, below).

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Over a decade of crime against babies.

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Vaccine Profiteers Care Nothing About You or Your Precious Children

CDC vaccine scientist who downplayed links to autism indicted by DOJ in alleged fraud scheme

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/032216_Thorsen_fraud.html#ixzz1LvF20OTt


How much vaccine research is based on outright fraud?
It also raises the question: How many other scientific researchers and grant money administrators are on the take, pocketing taxpayer dollars that were intended for research purposes? How many of these people falsify their research data in order to keep getting grant money injections into their private bank accounts? Just how deep does the collusion between the corrupt scientific community and the fraudulent vaccine industry really go?

And, of course, what is the CDC's role in all this? It has been one of the top cheerleaders for the vaccine industry for at least the past decade. Now, we are learning that a CDC section chief knowingly or unknowingly colluded with a physician and researcher who has now been indicted for fraud and money laundering. How high up the CDC does this alleged fraud really go?

I don't know the answer to that. But it's not that complicated to figure out, especially when CDC employees become Big Pharma vaccine employees, and vice-versa. It's all a giant government-corporate-medicine orgy where the scientific trust was abandoned long ago in favor of Big Pharma profits.

We'll do our best here at NaturalNews to find out the rest of this story and bring it to you. That's what we do. That's why we're the 4th largest alternative news website in the world (and growing every day). We bring you the news about the fraud and corruption in the pharmaceutical industry that most mainstream media sources won't dare touch. Subscribe to my free daily email newsletter to receive a daily email that I send out, containing links to the top stories you need to know about. It's free, so sign up now at: http://www.naturalnews.com/readerre...

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Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/032216_Thorsen_fraud.html#ixzz1LvGpeU00
 
Scott Sommers said:
I'm sorry, but how is any of this relevant?
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Clayton is just telling us what he believes in. And he's quite the conspiracy believer. He's a Holocaust denier, a 9/11 'truther,' and now (apparently) an anti-vaxxer. (I eagerly await his dissertations on Pearl Harbor, the JFK assassination, and the Apollo moon landings. He's already got one trifecta going; I see no reason for him to not go for another!)
 
Corsair 115 said:
Clayton is just telling us what he believes in. And he's quite the conspiracy believer. He's a Holocaust denier, a 9/11 'truther,' and now (apparently) an anti-vaxxer. (I eagerly await his dissertations on Pearl Harbor, the JFK assassination, and the Apollo moon landings. He's already got one trifecta going; I see no reason for him to not go for another!)
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Thanks. I was wondering what was happening here. I generally think watching TV is waste of life, but I think for some, it's better than the hobbies they have now.
 
Corsair 115 said:
Clayton is just telling us what he believes in. And he's quite the conspiracy believer. He's a Holocaust denier, a 9/11 'truther,' and now (apparently) an anti-vaxxer. (I eagerly await his dissertations on Pearl Harbor, the JFK assassination, and the Apollo moon landings. He's already got one trifecta going; I see no reason for him to not go for another!)
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How do you think movers and shakers make decisions? Are all the confabs and subsequent decisions for the benefit of the common man?
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
There's no doctor named Andrew Wakefield published in any british medical journal.
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I think he was tossed as a result of an investigation after Deer's slipshod reporting.

Brian Deer caught as a liar
It has also been revealed that journalist Brian Deer, the author of the BMJ article condemning Dr Wakefield as a fraud, is himself a liar. In attempting to gather evidence for his article in the BMJ, he lied about his identity and entered the home of one of the parents of the autism children. Specifically, he claimed he was working for The Sunday Times even though he was never a Sunday Times employee.

This is just the tip of the iceberg of the outright deception that has been used by the BMJ and Brian Deer in their attempt to silence a doctor whose only "crime" was publicly expressing concern about the safety of MMR vaccines.

That the BMJ and its writer Brian Deer have now been caught ignoring evidence and engaging in their own fraud gives credence to the idea that MMR vaccines may, indeed, not only be dangerous; but that they may be so dangerous that the top medical journals have to lie about the facts in order to protect them.

What's clear here is that the BMJ has strayed so far from the realm of evidence-based scientific thinking that it can no longer be called a reputable medical journal at all. Its callous disregard for the truth -- and its politically-motivated witch hunt against a researcher who only sought to protect the health of children -- exposes it as a danger to the scientific community and the world of conventional medicine.

As this truth unfolds, these revelations will rock the medical world and expose these science journals as the frauds they truly are. Think about this: While these medical journals are taking money from vaccine manufacturers (who pay their ads), they are ignoring any scientific evidence they don't like in order to vilify anyone who threatens the profits of these very same vaccine companies! And yet, these medical journals never admit that their very existence depends on the financial flow of money from these vaccine manufacturers who are strongly impacted by their editorial decisions!
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Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/031116_Dr_Andrew_Wakefield_British_Medical_Journal.html#ixzz1Lvc2fcB9
 
I'm sorry but the fact that other people were investigating a nonexistent problem does not make it valid.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Wasn't your mocking post implying that there are no conspiracies because any issue that becomes CT is nonsense?
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No, I was implying that you believe in three conspiracy theories in spite of massive evidence demonstrating the theories are false. Therefore it seems plausible that you will easily swallow three additional conspiracy theories.
 
Scott Sommers said:
I get it. He's not a physician anymore. So he's not Dr. Wakefield....I get it....
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He was stripped of his license for cooking the books in his now infamous psuedo- study which claimed to link vaccines and autism.

LONDON — A doctor whose research and public statements caused widespread alarm that a common childhood vaccine could cause autism was banned on Monday from practicing medicine in his native Britain for ethical lapses, including conducting invasive medical procedures on children that they did not need.

The General Medical Council applied its most severe sanction against the doctor, Andrew Wakefield, 53, who abandoned his medical practice in Britain in 2004 as questions intensified about his research and set up a center to study childhood developmental disorders in Texas, despite not being licensed as a physician there.

In January, after the longest investigation in its history, the council found several instances of what it said was unprofessional conduct by Dr. Wakefield. It cited his taking blood samples for his study from children at his son’s birthday party; he paid each child £5, about $7.20 today, and joked about it later. It also noted that part of the costs of Dr. Wakefield’s research was paid by lawyers for parents seeking to sue vaccine makers for damages. ​

It's unfortunate that they couldn't nail him for criminally negligent homicide.
 
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