Tim Turner is the legitimate POTUS?>

I rather like how the Great and Mighty Tim plans to legalize spam, and has 2 senators and 10 house reps for each state. I guess US history isn't something he's studied.
 
I rather like how the Great and Mighty Tim

Arthur: What manner of man are you that can summon up fire without flint or tinder
Tim: I... am an enchanter.
Arthur: By what name are you known?
Tim: There are some who call me... 'Tim'...?
Arthur: ...greetings, Tim the Enchanter.

Is there nothing that Monty Python did not know?

Norm
 
Latest from "President" Tim Turner:
http://www.republicoftheunitedstate...-PresidentialNotification-RP208703116RuSA.pdf

Seems as though the Fake Congress and Fake Supreme Court will be holding a federal investigation into whether the Fake President is using Lucifer to gain powers.

Thanks LightinDarkness.

Is this url the only site for this group? A Google search throws up various sites apparently relating to restoration of the republic but I have to admit to a large degree of reluctance to wade through the claims & verbiage in general in order to try to establish any sort of connection between them.
 
Latest from "President" Tim Turner:
http://www.republicoftheunitedstate...-PresidentialNotification-RP208703116RuSA.pdf

Seems as though the Fake Congress and Fake Supreme Court will be holding a federal investigation into whether the Fake President is using Lucifer to gain powers.

There are some serious allegations to be answered indeed:

Some of the allegations/claims that need to be resolved involve the following notions:
1. James Timothy Turner (and/or others) is involved with a satanic, occult, or luciferian plan to destroy the Republic.
2. James Timothy Turner (and/or others) used this Republic to make huge sums of money and kept it for our own use.
3. James Timothy Turner (and/or others/we) monetized hundreds of signatures and abused the funds created by said signatures.
4. James Timothy Turner works for FEMA or any other de-facto government entity.
5. James Timothy Turner (or other officials) is involved in a plot to entrap the people of the Republic and have them placed in FEMA camps.
6. James Timothy Turner (or other officials) has been implanted with a mind control chip device in the brain, and is being controlled remotely by de-facto handlers.
7. James Timothy Turner is not the man who was chosen by the Almighty God to lead this Republic.
8. James Timothy Turner (or other officials) did not properly count the votes during the election process.
9. This Republic is a Top Down form of government.
10. We have no financial support.
11. We have no military support.
12. We have no international support.
13. James Timothy Turner has stolen and/or abused funds belonging to this Republic.
14. James Timothy Turner has acted outside of lawful authority as president of this Republic.
15. James Timothy Turner has taken actions that have unlawfully usurped the States’ authority.
16. James Timothy Turner has set proctors in the States and by them lords it over the States.
17. Our Constitution of 1781 is defective; therefore the Articles of Confederation are the current law of the land.

Regarding 8, I can't think that there were many votes to count.

Checking 7 might be a challenge and so much for voting it seems.

I am not signing this post because one of you may monetize it.
 
Thanks LightinDarkness.

Is this url the only site for this group? A Google search throws up various sites apparently relating to restoration of the republic but I have to admit to a large degree of reluctance to wade through the claims & verbiage in general in order to try to establish any sort of connection between them.

Happy to help :) There are only a handful of places to keep track of the RuSA quackery. First is the one with the PDF, and second is the "Bureau of Republic Records" - http://www.bureauofrepublicrecords.org/

The Bureau website is where Tim Turner & company set up a fake ID scam to sell IDs to member of the fake Republic. They made the cards for $5-$10 and then sold them at $100-$200 each. Unfortunately the Chief Justice of the Republic apparently got a bit greedy and didn't send the profits to Tim Turner, so as of a few months ago Tim Turner kicked out the Chief Justice (who knew you could do that as US President?) and has claimed that the Bureau website is now in legion with Lucifer.

The Patriot quackery site www.panamalaw.org used to keep track of them and publish their propaganda, but since its been two plus years and Tim Turner kept telling everyone that they would take over the government any day now, they gave up.

The most bizarre thing I found out when watching these hysterics unfold is that there are OTHER groups who are ALSO claiming to be the "real" Republic and have said Tim's Republic is a Satanic plot (its always Lucifer or Satan with these groups, since they are all evangelical CTers).
 
.... and has claimed that the Bureau website is now in legion with Lucifer.

... is a Satanic plot (its always Lucifer or Satan with these groups, since they are all evangelical CTers).

Well, they need a good dose of Frank O'Collins of Ucadia fame who, apparently, has healed the rift between God and Lucifer.
 
Latest from "President" Tim Turner:
http://www.republicoftheunitedstate...-PresidentialNotification-RP208703116RuSA.pdf

Seems as though the Fake Congress and Fake Supreme Court will be holding a federal investigation into whether the Fake President is using Lucifer to gain powers.



I love how, just after calling for unity in their Republic, he accuses others of being plants for the "corporate" state working to destroy them. Because starting a witch hunt is always the best way to promote unity!
 
I love how, just after calling for unity in their Republic, he accuses others of being plants for the "corporate" state working to destroy them. Because starting a witch hunt is always the best way to promote unity!

Of course. He sacrifices a few of his sheeple to make the rest follow him even more fanatically.
 
They have an entire legal mythology established, going back to the civil war where Congress adjourned sine die . . .


Being interested in the American Civil War, I decided to look into this claim. Oh, the stupid, it burns! Stupid following is in red.

http://republicassembly.com/book/export/html/24

When the Southern states walked out of Congress on March 27, 1861, the quorum to conduct business under the Constitution was lost.


US Constitution, Article I, Section 3, Paragraph 1:

Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller Number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide. [bolding mine]


On March 27, 1861, there were 34 states, making 68 Senators. The House of Representatives consisted of 238 members. Kansas, which had just been admitted, had not yet selected its Congressional delegation. Only 7 states had purportedly seceded at that time, so at most 14 Senators would have walked out. Those states had a total of 35 seats in the House. So the implication that at that point it was impossible for Congress to reach a quorum is clearly erroneous.

The only votes that Congress could lawfully take, under Parliamentary Law, were those to set the time to reconvene, take a vote to get a quorum, and vote to adjourn and set a date, time, and place to reconvene at a later time, but instead, Congress abandoned the House and Senate without setting a date to reconvene. Under the parliamentary law of Congress, when this happened, Congress became Sine Die(from the Latin "without day") means "without assigning a day for a further meeting or hearing" to adjourn an assembly sine die is to adjourn it for an indefinite period. (pronounced see-na dee-a; literally “without day”) and thus when Congress adjourned sine die, it ceased to exist as a lawful deliberative body...


The idea that a legislature, or any other body, can permanently put itself out of business by adjourning sine die can only possibly apply if there are no preexisting rules fixing meeting times.

US Constitution, Article I, Section 4, Paragraph 2:

The Congress shall assemble at least once in every Year, and such Meeting shall be on the first Monday in December, unless they shall by Law appoint a different Day. [Note: the date was later changed to January 3rd]


Further:

US Constitution, Article II, Section 3, Paragraph 1:

[The President] shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them . . .


and the only lawful, constitutional power that could declare war was no longer lawful, or in session.


As noted, Congress was most certainly still "lawful." Further, no declaration of war is required in the case of a rebellion.

After Fort Sumter, four more states purported to secede, with eight Senators and 33 Representatives. However, one Senator and three Representatives from Tennessee refused to recognize the secession, and remained in Congress. Further, the counties forming what is now the state of West Virginia held a convention, declared all the state offices of Virginia vacant, and set up a new state government. This new government subsequently elected two Senators and three Representatives, all of whom were seated by Congress. So during the special session of Congress called by Lincoln for July 4, 1861, the net loss was 19 Senators and 62 Representatives, leaving 49 Senators and 176 Representatives, comfortably in excess of the 35 Senators and 120 Representatives required for quorums.

The Southern states, by virtue of their secession from the Union, also ceased to exist sine die, and some state legislatures in the Northern bloc also adjourned sine die, and thus, all the states which were parties to creating the Constitution ceased to exist.


Most, if not all, states have provisions in their constitutions for convening the legislature that preclude the sine die issue just as the US Constitution does. That aside, notice how the author attempts to handwave from "some" to "all".

I could go on, but there's no point. It's abundantly clear that the claim isn't merely legal mythology, it's demonstrably nothing but legal and constitutional fiction, and very poorly written fiction at that. :mad:

I'd call this claim an epic fail, but that would be dignifying it far more than it deserves.
 
I'd call this claim an epic fail, but that would be dignifying it far more than it deserves.

Exactly. What makes their cause even more laughable is that Congress adjourns sine die every time we have an election and the next session comes in (from my understanding). I've actually pointed this out to a few Patriot kooks in various forums and the response is always "herp derp the USA is a corporation" - that is their response to everything.

It is truly a case of "I want to Believe" with the Patriot kooks.
 

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