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JihadJane said:
That's really funny!




Is that the only kind of interrogation that the US is capable of now? :rolleyes:

Well and truly dumbed down....




Yeah, maybe you're right! :)
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So, you're answer is ...? You're assuming we could have extracted anything from him. We recovered a lot of info during the raid which you have no idea yet of what use it will be.


Dumbed down indeed.
 
Rodney said:
Are you referring to Eugene, Mary, or Joe McCarthy? They each killed the same number of people.
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Joe.

I wasn't specifically referring to numbers of deaths. I was referring to contagious social beliefs that came and went. Jane seems to think whatever changes occurred in the people in the US as result of Bin Laden's attacks, the morals of the country changed.

It's nonsense. Just because Germany went through the Hitler era and the US went through the Red Scare nonsense does not mean the social changes were anything more than a temporary response to current events.
 
dafydd said:
That puzzled me too. OBL wanted me to be wiped from the face of the Earth too. I took it personally.
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i can understand his hatred for american exploitation and control in the middle east, and i can have some sympathy for his initial motivations, which were:

ending American military presence in the Middle East and the Arabian Peninsula,[1][2] overthrowing Arab regimes he considers corrupt and insufficiently religious,[1][2] ending American support for Israel,[3][4] and returning East Timor and Kashmir to Muslim rule.[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism

that is the limit of my stated "some sympathy".
 
JihadJane said:
Well and truly dumbed down....
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As Ziggurat noted above, the killing of Osama while in hiding was a double blow to Al Queda both in terms of operations and image.

But, just out of curiosity, how do you feel about the targeted killing of Admiral Yamamoto in World War II?
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
Joe.

I wasn't specifically referring to numbers of deaths. I was referring to contagious social beliefs that came and went. Jane seems to think whatever changes occurred in the people in the US as result of Bin Laden's attacks, the morals of the country changed.

It's nonsense. Just because Germany went through the Hitler era and the US went through the Red Scare nonsense does not mean the social changes were anything more than a temporary response to current events.
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I agree that the U.S. killing, rather than capturing, Bin Laden does not mean that the country is in moral decline (although I think more would have been gained by interrogating him than will be gained from analyzing all of the computer drives found in his home). However, it seems to me that associating a firebrand politician with two mass murderers is an inappropriate way to make that point.
 
bikerdruid said:
i can understand his hatred for american exploitation and control in the middle east, and i can have some sympathy for his initial motivations, which were:

ending American military presence in the Middle East and the Arabian Peninsula,[1][2] overthrowing Arab regimes he considers corrupt and insufficiently religious,[1][2] ending American support for Israel,[3][4] and returning East Timor and Kashmir to Muslim rule.[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism

that is the limit of my stated "some sympathy".
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So, you have sympathy for someone who was ticked off that Saudi Arabia asked for the US to assist them when S.H. invaded Kuwait and S.A, and instead of making his case and trying to do better in the future, he decided to got on a murderous rampage?

Wow, that's awesome. :rolleyes:
 
dtugg said:
So bikerdruid is an Osama sympathizer. Huge shocker.
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triforcharity said:
So, you have sympathy for someone who was ticked off that Saudi Arabia asked for the US to assist them when S.H. invaded Kuwait and S.A, and instead of making his case and trying to do better in the future, he decided to got on a murderous rampage?

Wow, that's awesome. :rolleyes:
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insomuch as i sympathize with anyone who struggles for freedom against american corporate tyranny, yes, his other issues notwithstanding.
 
bikerdruid said:
insomuch as i sympathize with anyone who struggles for freedom against american corporate tyranny, yes, his other issues notwithstanding.
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Osama Bin Laden only ever had three issues.

1.) He hated jews.

2.) Thinks there's only three people in the world; Muslim, Not Muslim and Not Muslim enough. Wants to kill all of the last two and some of the first.

3.) Was embarrassed and humiliated at being rejected by the House of Saud in favor of a real fighting force and didn't want the world thinking he had a tinky-winky.
 
Ziggurat said:
Yes, it is. Something went really wrong with my browser when I tried to fix it, causing repeated crashes. Basically, I was trying to link to a picture of Charlie Sheen, I think you can figure out the rest from there.
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How about a nice picture of Dead Osama with the bullet hole in his head ( I'm sure we will see it eventually) with the caption "Winning!".
 
shuize said:
As Ziggurat noted above, the killing of Osama while in hiding was a double blow to Al Queda both in terms of operations and image.
But, just out of curiosity, how do you feel about the targeted killing of Admiral Yamamoto in World War II?
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Yes, Osama went out like a coward, instead of in a blaze of glory, when he declined to pick up his weapons. This may not look important to us with our western mindset, but these are not the actions of a Muslim hero.
 
bikerdruid said:
insomuch as i sympathize with anyone who struggles for freedom against american corporate tyranny, yes, his other issues notwithstanding.
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Do you not understand what got Osama started on this rampage temper tantrum?

Here, let me break it down for you.

Saudia Arabia is invaded by Iraq.

Saudia Arabia is offered assistance by bin Laden and the USA.

The USA is chosen to help defend them against Hussein.

bin Laden feels jaded that Americans were chosen over him to defend S.A.

And as opposed to going over to his corner and crying, then building a bridge and getting the **** over it, he gets his panties in a twist and goes on a rampage.



Now, what part of that do you support?

Where does corporate America come into play?
 
bikerdruid said:
i can understand his hatred for american exploitation and control in the middle east, and i can have some sympathy for his initial motivations
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Take off your blinders, bikerdruid. Bin Laden hated everything about you. He wanted you and everyone like you dead. And he wanted you dead because of what you believe and how you feel, not because of anything you every did. Such a person deserves no sympathy from you, and your "understanding" is nothing more than selective blindness.
 
JihadJane said:
"Why, in the absence of a fire fight, would U.S. forces put a bullet through the brain supposedly containing the most valuable intelligence on the planet?"
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Because that intelligence can be obtained more easily from the computers and documents obtained at his residence, because you shoot BEFORE a firefight erupts if you can, and because aside from firearms, al Qaeda is also known to use explosives.

The fact that the administration is incompetent in explaining events doesn't mean the SEALs didn't know what they were doing. They did.
 
Invading a foreing country to assasinate a suspect in a criminal case is illegal, for some reason or other I cannot bring myself to care. :)
I also find it practical to kill him instead of giving him the pulprit of a trial.

Does that hurt my credential as pinko liberal?
 
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