Split Thread The 9/11 Conspiracy Team

[TruthMakesPeace]

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Yes, The 9/11 Conspiracy Team had no right to kill these innocent, unarmed people on 9/11 for their agenda and profits. Bin Laden was just the fall guy, bumped off to protect The Team.

The 9/11 Conspiracy Team (according to a recent theory)
* Bin Laden provided the hijackers, and told them to hijack 4 planes, land, and demand the USA get out of Arabia in return for the hostages.
* Mueller made sure no FBI agents arrested the hijackers, taking pilot training in the USA (not in other countries with flight schools) to create a plausible cover story.
* Airline baggage men (agents) put the bags with remote controlled cyanide gas tanks in the planes, to knock out the crew, passengers, and hijackers (who were duped, and died too).
* Airline maintenance (agents) installed enhanced remote control in the passenger jets.
* ACE Elevator workers (agents) placed the nano-thermite and other explosives in the WTC elevators by day, and above ceilings panels by night
* Cheney made sure no fighter jets intercepted the planes
* Rumsfeld had workers strengthen the Pentagon Wing wall for the impact.
* Bremer arranged homing beacons installed in WTCs, and first blamed Bin Laden on TV
* Gen. Myers provided the NORAD stand down and timelines
* Bush leveraged the attacks into a reason to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.

Split from: Bin Laden Dead Truthers Mourn.

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[Oz1976]

Yes, The 9/11 Conspiracy Team had no right to kill these innocent, unarmed people on 9/11 for their agenda and profits. Bin Laden was just the fall guy, bumped off to protect The Team.

The 9/11 Conspiracy Team (according to a recent theory)
* Bin Laden provided the hijackers, and told them to hijack 4 planes, land, and demand the USA get out of Arabia in return for the hostages.
* Mueller made sure no FBI agents arrested the hijackers, taking pilot training in the USA (not in other countries with flight schools) to create a plausible cover story.
* Airline baggage men (agents) put the bags with remote controlled cyanide gas tanks in the planes, to knock out the crew, passengers, and hijackers (who were duped, and died too).
* Airline maintenance (agents) installed enhanced remote control in the passenger jets.
* ACE Elevator workers (agents) placed the nano-thermite and other explosives in the WTC elevators by day, and above ceilings panels by night
* Cheney made sure no fighter jets intercepted the planes
* Rumsfeld had workers strengthen the Pentagon Wing wall for the impact.
* Bremer arranged homing beacons installed in WTCs, and first blamed Bin Laden on TV
* Gen. Myers provided the NORAD stand down and timelines
* Bush leveraged the attacks into a reason to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.

Really? This is the most ludicrous "theory"...I don't even know how to respond...except to ask what they were smoking when they thought this absurdity up

 

[dc1971]

Yes, The 9/11 Conspiracy Team had no right to kill these innocent, unarmed people on 9/11 for their agenda and profits. Bin Laden was just the fall guy, bumped off to protect The Team.

The 9/11 Conspiracy Team (according to a recent theory)
* Bin Laden bla bla bla...
* Mueller made sure bla bla bla...
* Airline baggage men bla bla bla...
* Airline maintenance bla bla bla...
* ACE Elevator workers bla bla bla...
* Cheney made sure no fighter jets bla bla bla...
* Rums... bla bla bla...
* Bremer arranged homing bla bla bla...
* Gen. Myers provided the NORAD stand bla and time bla... bla bla bla...
* Bush leveraged the attacks bla bla bla...

And your evidence (ie proof) for all of this is??

 

[dafydd]

And your evidence (ie proof) for all of this is??

A truther providing evidence? It's a novel idea.

 

[Clayton Moore]

Yes, The 9/11 Conspiracy Team had no right to kill these innocent, unarmed people on 9/11 for their agenda and profits. Bin Laden was just the fall guy, bumped off to protect The Team.

The 9/11 Conspiracy Team (according to a recent theory)
* Bin Laden provided the hijackers, and told them to hijack 4 planes, land, and demand the USA get out of Arabia in return for the hostages.
* Mueller made sure no FBI agents arrested the hijackers, taking pilot training in the USA (not in other countries with flight schools) to create a plausible cover story.
* Airline baggage men (agents) put the bags with remote controlled cyanide gas tanks in the planes, to knock out the crew, passengers, and hijackers (who were duped, and died too).
* Airline maintenance (agents) installed enhanced remote control in the passenger jets.
* ACE Elevator workers (agents) placed the nano-thermite and other explosives in the WTC elevators by day, and above ceilings panels by night
* Cheney made sure no fighter jets intercepted the planes
* Rumsfeld had workers strengthen the Pentagon Wing wall for the impact.
* Bremer arranged homing beacons installed in WTCs, and first blamed Bin Laden on TV
* Gen. Myers provided the NORAD stand down and timelines
* Bush leveraged the attacks into a reason to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.

Really? This is the most ludicrous "theory"...I don't even know how to respond...except to ask what they were smoking when they thought this absurdity up

The most ludicrous theory is the establishment's theory that every level of American defense/protection from the/an 9/11 event freaking failed. In an America when a misspeak is a firing/media humiliating/career ending event where was the inquisition?

 

[A W Smith]

The most ludicrous theory is the establishment's theory that every level of American defense/protection from the/an 9/11 event freaking failed. In an America when a misspeak is a firing/media humiliating/career ending event where was the inquisition?

Describe those "levels" and how they were successfully implemented on any previous hijacking over the continental us

 

[Clayton Moore]

Describe those "levels" and how they were successfully implemented on any previous hijacking over the continental us

? Why?

 

[ProBonoShill]

The most ludicrous theory is the establishment's theory that every level of American defense/protection from the/an 9/11 event freaking failed. In an America when a misspeak is a firing/media humiliating/career ending event where was the inquisition?

How did they fail and what would you have done better? Be specific.

 

[Clayton Moore]

How did they fail and what would you have done better? Be specific.

Another stupid question. Is it contagious or genetic?

List of successful hijackings from US airports before 9/11.


1980s

1990s

United States 1994: FedEx Flight 705 hijacked by disgruntled employee Auburn Calloway as it left Memphis, Tennessee, with the intention of using it as a cruise missile against FedEx HQ. He was subdued by the flight crew before an emergency landing back at Memphis.

2000

2001

 

[TruthMakesPeace]

New theory explains evidence better than the OCT

And your evidence (ie proof) for all of this is??

The evidence for the theory, that the occupants were gassed as the plane was taken over by remote control, is the same used by the OCT.
* Parts of the plane were found at the WTCs and Pentagon.
* Many witnesses, photos, and videos prove that planes hit WTC 1 and 2, and the Pentagon wall.
* DNA evidence at the Pentagon and WTCs confirms people were on board.

Plane wreckage at the WTCs and Pentagon should have been analyzed for traces of poison gas.
* Cyanide gas is toxic, and can travel from the baggage compartment into the cabin area.
http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/cyanide/basics/facts.asp

No exotic technology (holograms, directed energy) is proposed. Just existing tech.
* Remote control of planes has been an accepted and well known technology since 12/1/1984.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-gJGwqBhHI
* Explosives in the baggage area going off just prior to Pentagon impact explain smaller than expected hole
* Explosives in the baggage area going off just after planes impacted WTCs would ensure a large fire ball.
If fuel simply spilled out, without catching fire, OCT could not claim fire brought down the buildings.

Regarding the theory that CIA asset Bin Laden, or his deputies, recruited and duped the hijackers:
More Arabians would volunteer to hijack a plane to get the US military bases out of their holy land, than to die without a clear stated purpose or without even making any demands, as the OCT expects us to believe. A group would identify itself, state its demands, and kill hostages plus themselves only if their demands were not met. Obviously, if they blow themselves up before their demands are met, they lose all negotiation power.

 

[ProBonoShill]

Another stupid question. Is it contagious or genetic?

List of successful hijackings from US airports before 9/11.


1980s

1990s

United States 1994: FedEx Flight 705 hijacked by disgruntled employee Auburn Calloway as it left Memphis, Tennessee, with the intention of using it as a cruise missile against FedEx HQ. He was subdued by the flight crew before an emergency landing back at Memphis.

2000

2001

Do you have a problem with reading for comprehension?

You quoted my post and then babbled on about something totally unrelated to what I wrote.

Care to try again?

 

[Clayton Moore]

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[Sam.I.Am]

Yes, The 9/11 Conspiracy Team had no right to kill these innocent, unarmed people on 9/11 for their agenda and profits. Bin Laden was just the fall guy, bumped off to protect The Team.

The 9/11 Conspiracy Team (according to a recent theory)
* Bin Laden provided the hijackers, and told them to hijack 4 planes, land, and demand the USA get out of Arabia in return for the hostages.

Well so far so good. Bin Laden did get the hijackers... but then you went off of the rails.

* Mueller made sure no FBI agents arrested the hijackers, taking pilot training in the USA (not in other countries with flight schools) to create a plausible cover story.

Aside from the fact that almost all commercial pilots have trained in the USA at one time or another (and virtually all of the ones who fly in the USA have done training in the USA) what's your point? Why does a flight school in the USA matter one way or the other as far as a cover story goes?

* Airline baggage men (agents) put the bags with remote controlled cyanide gas tanks in the planes, to knock out the crew, passengers, and hijackers (who were duped, and died too).

One too many Tom Clancy novels.

* Airline maintenance (agents) installed enhanced remote control in the passenger jets.

And too many James Bond movies.

* ACE Elevator workers (agents) placed the nano-thermite and other explosives in the WTC elevators by day, and above ceilings panels by night

I think that I saw that Keanu Reeves movie too.

* Cheney made sure no fighter jets intercepted the planes

How did he manage that?

* Rumsfeld had workers strengthen the Pentagon Wing wall for the impact.

Considering that the work was authorized and started under Clinton I think that you're looking under the wrong rock there chum.

* Bremer arranged homing beacons installed in WTCs, and first blamed Bin Laden on TV

Homing beacons? Really? <quizzical_dog.jpg>

* Gen. Myers provided the NORAD stand down and timelines

So wait a second was it Cheney or Myers? Make up your mind.

* Bush leveraged the attacks into a reason to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.

And for what reason did he want to go into Afghanistan? The (still) non-existent pipeline or to rescue the women from their Taliban oppressors? As far as the Iraq goes it was pretty clear to anyone who was paying any attention during Bushes run for office and saw how Saddam was misbehaving that Iraq was going to come to a head sooner rather than later if Bush was elected.

(bolding mine)

Your theory is, aside from laughably lacking any details on how this all was done, sheer quackery at its finest. Keep up the good work, I needed a laugh before I went to bed.

 

[triforcharity]

Another stupid question. Is it contagious or genetic?

List of successful hijackings from US airports before 9/11.

United States 1994: FedEx Flight 705 hijacked by disgruntled employee Auburn Calloway as it left Memphis, Tennessee, with the intention of using it as a cruise missile against FedEx HQ. He was subdued by the flight crew before an emergency landing back at Memphis.

Not exactly sucessful. In fact, quite the opposite of sucessful.

I watched a documentary of this event the other day. The guy who tried to kill the crew and hijack the plane, never once got control of the plane.

Conclusion: Not a sucessful hijacking.

 

[000063]

The most ludicrous theory is the establishment's theory that every level of American defense/protection from the/an 9/11 event freaking failed. In an America when a misspeak is a firing/media humiliating/career ending event where was the inquisition?

There's a difference between "failing" and "being inadequate to an unprecedented attack", which was admitted over and over.

For example, America's air defenses were not geared to deal with threats inside it's borders. Sure, it would be capable of properly responding to such threats given enough time, but all the guns were pointing out, so to speak. Just hijacking over US airspace got them past the most formidable defenses. Similarly, the next time someone tries to hijack a plane to turn it into a suicide bomb, there's a very good chance that the passengers will rush them before they get anywhere, and/or they get shot by an air marshal. Similar odds even if it is a conventional hijacking.

Also, because people weren't fired != conspiracy.

 

[Clayton Moore]

Not exactly sucessful. In fact, quite the opposite of sucessful.

I watched a documentary of this event the other day. The guy who tried to kill the crew and hijack the plane, never once got control of the plane.

Conclusion: Not a sucessful hijacking.

That was the point. No successful hijacking of a US passenger airliner in over 20 years.

 

[Clayton Moore]

There's a difference between "failing" and "being inadequate to an unprecedented attack", which was admitted over and over.

For example, America's air defenses were not geared to deal with threats inside it's borders. Sure, it would be capable of properly responding to such threats given enough time, but all the guns were pointing out, so to speak. Just hijacking over US airspace got them past the most formidable defenses. Similarly, the next time someone tries to hijack a plane to turn it into a suicide bomb, there's a very good chance that the passengers will rush them before they get anywhere, and/or they get shot by an air marshal. Similar odds even if it is a conventional hijacking.

Also, because people weren't fired != conspiracy.

There was an attack of airport security? I must have missed that.

 

[TJM]

That was the point. No successful hijacking of a US passenger airliner in over 20 years.

PSA 1771.

There was an attack of airport security? I must have missed that.

There was inadequate security, which was exploited.

 

[000063]

There was an attack of airport security? I must have missed that.

Whoosh.

 

[triforcharity]

That was the point. No successful hijacking of a US passenger airliner in over 20 years.

Maybe you should have been more clear what your intent was.

So, because there had not been a sucessful hijacking in the US in 20 years, it means it couldn't happen?

In 2004, the Red Sox had not won the World Series in 86 years. Yet, in October of 2004, we did exactly that. Does that mean it was a conspiracy?